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"Drugs are never going to lead to anything positive"

So now I feel it's time for a group hug - something that a group of grown men would be unlikely to do if it weren't for the invention of MDMA ;).

I think it's kind of inevitable that this thread and Spade's would carry some crossover, it's a shame but they are very closely related, I guess :\.

And SHM - you are absolutely 100% right to point out the difference between harm caused by a drug's and harm caused by the prohibition of a drug. Those dead friends I spoke of would not be dead if it weren't for prohibition :|.
 
fastandbulbous said:
A Nobel prize not positive enough eh? By you have harsh standards

If you're wondering what I'm on about, look up Kary Mullis, the deverlopment of PCR (& the whole genetics based industry) and the fact that he directly cites LSD as being the key to his moment of inspiration that lead to PCR


The defence rests! :)
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When I wrote the OP I soooooooooooooo wanted you to post this. Thank you.
 
I worked at a place that treated me like shit & paid me poorly. It made me an uptight grumpy arsehole to be around. I was giving too much of a fuck about everything & everyone & was having great difficulty providing for my wife & kids. They robbed me of my confidence & made me feel as if I couldn't cope out in the big bad world.

Although I had a shady drugs past in my youth, I had never taken MDMA in any form, but a "friend" introduced me to various flavours of chems & my whole outlook changed. I relaxed a hell of a lot & woke up to the fact that I was actually a good person & a good provider & didn't have to take any more shite from those cunts that I worked for. Confidence had been gained, as I opened up more & was able to confront problems head on. It's not as though I get monged just to speak to anyone, but you know what I mean.

Got a new job, new house, family is closer than ever & have had some fantastic experiences over the years & I think it has brought me & Felix a lot closer as brothers. :D

+1 from me. Lost count of the score.
 
My boyfriends best friend didn't really like me when we first got together and it was really awkward and they were drifitng apart
Anyway one night when we were out we all took e together and it was the start of a great friendship (that hasn't needed drugs to survive). Guess it was a good ice breaker.
 
SHM I never knew you had a sense of humour. :D

Some of these examples people are giviing regarding drugs leading to positive things are a bit dubious. Other's are quite good though.

"I took a pill and felt good" is hardly an acheivement is it.
 
felix said:
after my use of mdma and lsd, i am a much softer, gentler, friendlier and more outgoing person. i am not afraid of interacting with strangers any more.
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+1

Drugs tought me what councellors parents techers and the likes could never get through

That lifes worth living :D
 
I think that I might be dead or very unhappy had I never used drugs other than alcohol or nicotine.

I'm not attempting to hold drug use up as some kind of certificate, or to advise people to do as I have done - because I am very far from perfect - but to say that using ecstasy pills which contained MDMA, MDA and who knows what else led me to question some of the accepted knowledge round where I come from with regard to how life should be lived. That's pretty invaluable.

And I am wired to fuck right now%)
 
^Thank God someone is. I seriously believe that I would be a complete mess, had I not discovered drugs. Then again, some could argue that I already am a complete mess, and I'd be 'high flying' (no pun intended), and far better than I am now, had I not discovered them. I really don't know, but I know I've had so much fun that I wouldn't have had without them.
 
fastandbulbous said:
A Nobel prize not positive enough eh? By you have harsh standards

If you're wondering what I'm on about, look up Kary Mullis, the deverlopment of PCR (& the whole genetics based industry) and the fact that he directly cites LSD as being the key to his moment of inspiration that lead to PCR


The defence rests! :)
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The guy who invented Real Time PCR must have been on some pretty powerful drugs :D

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNYc8Etlc0
And an explanation:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NloxUFSdwe4&feature=related

Even though I've done this a thousand times the simplicity of the idea still bowls me over. Brilliant.


Drugs have given me perspective, made me face some of my fears head on and deal with them, made new friennds and had wonderful experiences/memories. Very few negatives from me except I wish I hadn't smoked as much dope when I was younger, although in the end getting depressed and paranoid made me make positive changes in my life... :)
 
Link_S said:
+1

Drugs tought me what councellors parents teachers and the likes could never get through

That lifes worth living :D
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There are some lovely stories and some brilliant quotes coming out of this thread.

Long may it continue.
 
I have huge gaps in my memory from about the age 15(ish) to about 19 due to copious cannabis abuse. Back then, I could quite easily have slid down the slippery path which very few people return (through no fault of cannabis however.. unrelated issues). That said, I sorted my life out im now in a good job, got good friends, nice house and I had an excellent time in my teen years. I still smoke it occasionally and find it a useful alternative to beer for unwinding after a rough day.

Not a very insightful or heart-warming story but: WIN all the same
+1
 
If drugs have made us all so open minded and wonderful how come when spade disagrees with us we pounce on him and tear him apart? :D
 
^ He decided to project his personal experience - simple as that - we just shook the mirror a little to let him see that. Saying he was torn apart is a bit strong isn't it?
Anyway he says he worded it badly ( I agree he did =D ) but then again who hasn't worded something badly in the past - your ineffable self excepted of course ;)
 
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