Misc Drugs and Dreams, Esp. Lucid Dreams

[Druidus]

I find that if I double my regular dose of trazodone and mirtazapine before bed, I always achieve a memorable and lucid dream state. It is strange, and often has a plot. I am more able to realize that I am dreaming, and the dreams themselves are more vivid (improving recall). Once I realize I'm dreaming, like this, I can generally try to do anything I want, with a decent chance of it manifesting within the dream experience.

When I last tried it, I spent most of the night at a hotel in a city in Kenya, with my mom and my sister. I was harrassed throughout each day, in different ways, by a character named Gordon. For example, he steals my room key on one of the days. I debated several people, including my mom, claiming that I was dreaming and they were but imaginations (usually they seemed not to comprehend the gravity of this). A variety of people I've known in real life made appearances, sometimes modifying the "plot" meaningfully.

Each "day" that I woke up in, inside the dream, initially felt normal, but I'd inevitably remember earlier "days" in this dream period and conclude that I was dreaming. This happened all night as I slept and occasionally truly woke for short periods. One of the climax events in the last dream was me flying some sort of jet/spaceship to the moon, and it felt incredible, stimulating, and "realistic" (I'd just chosen to do it and the dream world sort of allowed it to come together and do it). Anything becomes open.

Anyone else get this kind of thing with dreams? Especially lucid dreams?

 

[95Land]

I've had some incredibly clear, lucid dreams during my period of meth use. They were as close to real as I can imagine and I have near total recall of a few of them.
In one of them I spent what felt like nearly an entire day at work. I had full conversations with my boss and at least one coworker, performed my regular job, drove about the city on the actual streets/routes.... It was insane.
However... I've taken Trazodone and Mirtazapine and the only thing I remember from the nights/mornings when I took it was taking the pill and waking up in a zombie state, 10-16 hours later. Did not enjoy.

 

[Janellflyshighh]

I was seeing a psychiatrist for a while and he said there's been studies on how anti anxiety medications cause realistic and vivid dream states. Some people even sleep walk, talk, fall outa bed.

 

[Ninae]

I can't say I really enjoy the lucid dreaming that drugs like MXE seems to induce.

Dreams are fluid by nature, anyway, but lucid dreams are like 100 x as lucid, and to me it's usually like everything is constantly shifting so there is no time to really experience anything, or things are just constantly morphing in front of me, so I can be sitting down to talk to someone and they turn into someone else, then someone else, endlessly. This seems to say your mind has been a bit messed up.

I much more enjoy story-based dreams, that seem like real-life experiences. I had my first one for a long time last night after I hadn't used any serious drugs for a while. It was also a pretty good one, so when I woke up I stayed in the dream for a while and wished it could have gone on longer and continue.

I just met someone new that I liked, and it was just like it would be in real life, I reacted just the same, etc. so I was a bit disappointed when it ended before I could see where it was going. It was just something simple, like a typical real-life experience of that kind - I was going to the store and outside I met this guy sho started talking to me, in a flirty kind of way. And although I found him pretty irresistable - he was gorgeous and had very pale skin and almost black hair (in a healthy looking way), and also an attractive personality to me, and I could feel that spark you have when you meet someone you really like.

I still withdrew as I felt this guy might be a bit questionable or untrustworthy in some ways. Like, he seemed a bit predatory, like the type that would go up to random girls like that all the time and just expect his charm to work on them, and maybe had lots of women. Also, there was something a bit chauvinistic in his attitude, that I'm not used to from Western guys, and that made me think he was Eastern European, as he also had a bit of an accent. Then he came upto me at the bus stop again and took out a paper and wrote Down his number to give me.

After that I kept thinking about him but didn't want to call him, but we kept meeting randomly a few times, and he was kind of like "Hello? I'm obviously interested and I know you like me. What are you waiting for?", etc. And I just started thinking about him more but couldn't decide if I wanted to get involved as I didn't know if he could be trusted (I've learnt that someone who give you lots of pleasure to be with are not necessarily always a good idea).

So it just went on like that, like a typical male/female situation in real life , and I was a bit disappointed as I kind of missed him and now he was probably gone forever, and I would have liked to see how it would have turned out.

Anyway, this makes me think we must definitely have some kind of independent life on the Astral when our bodies are asleep (after all it makes up 1/3 of our time) that works very similarly to how this world works (the lowest non-physical Levels that is) to the point where things happen the same way and you need to do the same things. Though, not quite, I don't think there's any need to work, for instance, as you can create much more easily in Astral matter and have what you like. Also, it's a lot more fluid and there seems to be a lot more coincidences, synchronities, and wish-fulfillment in general. Like, if you have someone on your mind you'll keep meeting them at random, etc.

It's like an existence that is much more centered around you and your needs, and responds to your conscious and subconscious wishes, so it's pretty good. As opposed to this world, which is mostly the opposite. I guess some drugs can be good at taking you there, but haven't seen it much for myself, except for high-dose Opiates (or something similar in a half-awake state).

 

[blight12]

I have done some research into this due to interest in lucid dreaming at its clear Serotonin is linked to dreaming in a big way.

Increasing Serotonin artificially during sleep periods seems to increase dreaming and dream recall but reports show reducing it as with anti-psychotics can do the same so its not clear. SSRI's are strange though as in theory it should increase dreams and it does for some but for others it does the opposite, like myself. I recently came off these after many years and suddenly began to dream vividly and sometimes lucidly again.

I rem trying to sleep after MDMA would induce some weird wakeful dreams if you could manage to relax enough to get there.

Recently I have been using Kanna to substitute the SSRI''s and it has seemed to increase dreaming and especially the detail and realism of them, likely due to its SRI effects.

I have also tried African Dream Herb and Calea zacatechichi with good effect most effective in that order.

Lastly those who can sleep later in on mornings will dream more due to REM sleep being more active in the mornings before you awake. Saturdays 8am to 11am are the best for me.

Lucid dreams are awesome. I throw cars and buildings around like an evil fukin Superman until the lowly peasants deliver their hottest daughters to me as a sacrifice to end the destruction. Its a perfect world.

 

[ShaunG]

Funny to see this post. I just had a really weird and vivid lucid dream last night and I almost never dream. I only slept 6 hours, but woke but really refreshed. No need for coffee. My wife said I was all over the bed and almost pushed her off the bed. She had to push me back on my side and I didn't even wake up.

My dream was one I did not really control. It was about people I have not seen in 13 years, some longer. It started by me being late to a high school class which was health and my 7th grade health teacher was the teacher. I never took health in high school. it was test day so they called my name (which was a spam email alias i use) over the loud speaker. I proceeded late to class (which i rarely did in actuality) and laughed at the teacher when i sat down at my desk. it was test day and i didn't study shit so i was trying to sit near someone i could cheat off of. there were several people i went to high school around me but their desks were all angled weird so i could not cheat. i found this kinda of strange like they knew i was gonna cheat. i then proceeded to take two high times marijuana magazines out of my bag and put them on my desk and started to read them. the teachers aid came over and asked wtf i was doing and why did i have sunglasses on. i forgot, i had these terminator looking sunglasses on too. she asked me to put the magazine away, take the glasses off, and take my test. i took the glasses off and everything was blurry and dark so i put them back on for a second. then i took them off again and everything went blurry and dark....i then woke up and it was time to get up. very fucking weird, but very cool. i don't remember dreaming in a while.

note that i took a bump of heroin early in the morning which barely did anything cuz it sucked, about 20 mg of OP oxy later in the day thatdid nothing because my tolerance is much higher and a .5mg of xanax which i take daily. nothing out of the ordinary for drugs, but what a fucking weird dream. it was much different than when i purposely induce a opiate nod and get those semi conscious really fucking vivid dreams. they tend to bounce all over more tho like im going through 8 stories on fast forward like someone above mentioned on MXE.

 

[blight12]

Lucid dreams are fun. You get those where you know you are dreaming but cant control anything and then those you can control. Those you can control are so rare that even those training in the art have maybe 1 every 3 months.

Speaking of H, the nod to my great surprise turned out to be some sort of awesome dream state, perhaps not lucid but of very high quality and realism. This fact doesnt seem to be clear anywhere discussing the properties of the drug.

This is good because if this fact was more widely known there would be many many more enthusiastic initiates. There are many people obsessed with dreams. You opiate fiends must continue to keep this secret safe!

God i miss the opi dreams. I once imagined and "watched" an entire awesome movie in my mind I had just started watching in reality when i nodded out, and then i woke up and watched the actual movie to compare it to the once i just watched before. Epic.