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drug induced mental problems/recovery - from stimulants/mephedrone

rimbaud12

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Hey,
I posted something similar in the neuroscience forum, but maybe that was the wrong forum to do it in...or no-one replied anyway

But I read the following article yesterday:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0045473

Basically, it suggests that mephedrone may cause lasting or permanent memory damage, based on behavioral experiments with rats. As the rats still had memory problems 5 weeks after they had stopped being dosed (this was the last time they were tested though).
I haven't used stimulants for months, and haven't used mephedrone for almost four years. In fact, I was never a regular user of it - but had a couple of times where I consumed almost 5grams over 3 days.
Sorry if this questions smacks of anxiety (one of the reasons I stopped using stimulants is, they seem to have left me with an anxiety problem). But is this study on rats - rats which were only 3 weeks old - actually that relevant to humans? Does it mean that, in contrast to, say, MDMA, cognitive damage from this drug could be irreparable? And does it mean anything that, despite the behavioral change in the rats, the scientists couldn't find any physical damage to their brains, in contrast to the behavioural changes?
Also, if I had suffered memory damage, would I have noticed it? In truth, I never noticed any significant changes to my memory, now or then.

I guess the article kind of freaked me out because, while I always knew drugs can cause cognitive damage, I assumed that it was recoverable - that the brain could heal itself, given time. And I believe this is the opinion in regard to MDMA and meth. Does this study mean mephedrone is any different/ or am I needlessly worrying over nothing?

Like I said, I haven't noticed any cognitive problems in myself except for anxiety, which I'm working on through meditation/exercise/staying off stimulants. So if there has been damage to my memory, I guess it must be very subtle
Any opinions would be much appreciated :)
 
Hey,
I posted something similar in the neuroscience forum, but maybe that was the wrong forum to do it in...or no-one replied anyway

But I read the following article yesterday:

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%...l.pone.0045473

Basically, it suggests that mephedrone may cause lasting or permanent memory damage, based on behavioral experiments with rats. As the rats still had memory problems 5 weeks after they had stopped being dosed (this was the last time they were tested though).
I haven't used stimulants for months, and haven't used mephedrone for almost four years. In fact, I was never a regular user of it - but had a couple of times where I consumed almost 5grams over 3 days.
Sorry if this questions smacks of anxiety (one of the reasons I stopped using stimulants is, they seem to have left me with an anxiety problem). But is this study on rats - rats which were only 3 weeks old - actually that relevant to humans? Does it mean that, in contrast to, say, MDMA, cognitive damage from this drug could be irreparable? And does it mean anything that, despite the behavioral change in the rats, the scientists couldn't find any physical damage to their brains, in contrast to the behavioural changes?
Also, if I had suffered memory damage, would I have noticed it? In truth, I never noticed any significant changes to my memory, now or then.

I guess the article kind of freaked me out because, while I always knew drugs can cause cognitive damage, I assumed that it was recoverable - that the brain could heal itself, given time. And I believe this is the opinion in regard to MDMA and meth. Does this study mean mephedrone is any different/ or am I needlessly worrying over nothing?

Like I said, I haven't noticed any cognitive problems in myself except for anxiety, which I'm working on through meditation/exercise/staying off stimulants. So if there has been damage to my memory, I guess it must be very subtle
Any opinions would be much appreciated :)

no-one?
 
Just like MDMA i doubt the Mephedrone damage is irreversible. I remember every time i'd roll at a rave, then go back to high school or college. I'd be a retard for mainly the first week back, symptoms slowly going away and my mind becoming sharp again with time. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes shorter point being that i do go back to my self. Do i go back to 100% thinking and memory ability, i am not sure but i know i go back to at least 90% which is good enough.
 
Yeah meph has the same risks as MDMA. MDMA totally fucked my life up for 6 years, but it did go away, the majority of the serious anxiety and paranoia after that time period, however not everything. I will prob have the general anxiety permanently.

Going on SSRI's for those 6 years helped a lot though, but not completely.
 
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