drug friends

[leecie]

I was having a chat with a friend recently and we were discussing the friends you make through clubbing and partying and the like. You know the ones...you find that you have so much in common because you like the same music (you meet in a club where you go to listen to music...who would think you have the same tastes!!) and you get on so so well...you really connect! (mmmmdddmmmaaa??) Anyway...I have made a lot of really good friends through clubbing and stuff but once you stop hanging at the same places and taking the same stuff do the friendships endure? I have seen a lot of friendships crack under strain lately and would be interested to hear peoples honest feelings...

 

[blufluffybunny]

I have thought about this and Im scared

ALL my friends are into drugs in one way or another. now... some I KNOW are in my life temporarily, some I know will be here longer. Some I also know will be here forever. WHY? Because you know who are your true friends and who arent.
I can count them on one hand.
But Im having fun with everyone. Im enjoying myself and living in the moment. Friends come and go as do the seasons... As they say, friends are broken into THREE groups. Reason, Season or a lifetime.
Reason - These friends have come into your life for a particular REASON, be it good or bad, to teach you something. Something you NEVER knew before or even had to learn again.
Season - These friends come into your life for short but meaningful seasons. They could be close friends, but never quite make it. They come, they go but you never forget them.. They Never quite make it to
LIFETIME - through thick and thin these are like family. No matter how bad your situation of life is... these friends are there. Years between speaking, they are still there for you.
No matter where I have found these friends, clubbing, school or just through friends of friends....... I guess they have all had something to share.
*stares at screen*
wow....... deep and meaningful!

 

[DJC*]

Very well put BFB.

I totally agree!!!
DJC*
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"We are the children of the revolution"

 

[leecie]

thankyou BFB!! i was trying to remember the reason, season and lifetime thing before...it is exactly what i was thinking

temporary friends who serve a purpose and such...
*leecie wanders off...*

 

[polar_beaR]

damn...BFB got there before me

sometimes its hard to know which friends are which (and there can be crossovers) and you end up trying to hold on to the ones that are there for just a reason and end up neglecting for a time the friends that end up being with you for a lifetime.

 

[moocho]

So I see the topic 'drug friends' written by Leecie, and think all of a sudden...
Hang on a minute…I’m one of them!
And then I gets to thinking about all the fantabulous little adventures I have had this year. Jet setting from rave to rave to Kitty’s apartment to rave, Oh My! I have been a busy little bee.
This year, raving and the rave culture has become a very large part of my life. And I occasionally drop by to such an event as Mystic 5/Eckythump/Utopia just to check that everything is in order, and then I start meeting all these freaks….why are they freaks? Because they’re just like me. When I ask them if they know how good track number 13 is on the first disc of the Trance Nation 5 cd, mixed by Ferry.
They know what I’m talking about!!
So yeah, after a while I’m starting to like these dudes, preferring no longer to label them as ‘freaks,’ and simply accepting their similar values and customs. So, me and my freaks (oops…arr fark it) we go out and dance, and talk about how good the shuffle button is on the cd player cause it’s like playing a new cd, and we dance, and Leecie gives me a chuppa chup, and I go looking for someone and can’t find them, then someone grabs me and says Dude, fuck man! I been fucken looking for you for ages!! and then whoever it is gives me a big bear-like hug and someone takes a photo, and we all laugh, and someone points to me and says Jeez I love you Mooch and I’m all like, well, your not too bad yourself, and then someone taps me on the shoulder and says,oh my God it’s you!!! I haven’t seen you in ages!! And I’m like Fark!!!!

and I can’t remember her name, so I give her a really big ass hug, still trying to remember her name, but then I come to the overwhelming realisation of… ‘Fuck it’. She knows her name, and that’s all that counts. And then I see the usual sketchy gang looking sketchy So I say, jeez you guys are sketchy! Look what you have done to me! And then I say, did I think that or say it??
Bang.
Smack.
And I’m forced onto my ass, laughing and rolling around on the concrete with someone like Cutiful, who starts chucking glowsticks at me, and I add the words “I’m so fucked” for the four billionth time, and then we all smile, and I sit back and think for one perfect moment, that
life cannot get any better than this…
And then I realise that these freaks are my friends, my real friends.
And I have to correct myself on the spot, because all of a sudden life has just got better.

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When i was asleep, a vampire climbed in through my window and bit me. The worst part was that after, he sat and chatted with me for three hours and then stole all my trance.
[This message has been edited by moocho (edited 13 November 2001).]
[This message has been edited by moocho (edited 13 November 2001).]

 

[PsychoKitten]

*Stands up and applauds bluff*
Moocho, gawd I love ya, don't ever change.

I'm one of those people that has a million friends, people facinate me and it takes a lot to get on my bad side, although I must admit that when you do you're there for life.
But of these people there's probably 25-30 around the world that i consider close and max of 6 who I consider true friends. Two of whom are dead.
I don't see any diference between the people i meet through work and the people i meet through drugs, although I do have to admit that a "friendship" seems to form faster with drugs. Hmm wonder why??

People move through your life, some more quickly than others, but I try to value each and every one.
Friendships crack all the time and really do you put the friendships cracking under the strain down to the fact that you take durgs or do you look at it and see that even if you didn't take, they'd still most likley crack.
Personally I don't think drugs make much difference to it all.
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The only thing I'm good at is being bad.
[This message has been edited by PsychoKitten (edited 13 November 2001).]

 

[Little VEGEEmite]

these comments are spot on! nice topic!
ummmm i have managed to sort thru all those people who are truly meant to be in my life and those who are just on their own wandering journey in search of whatever their heart is looking for.
however, i have lost really good friends because of what i do on weekends...... this is something i still can't come to terms with..... i think it has something to do with the idea of these people being prejudiced against me and not understanding the true reasons of why i am me and especially why i go out and listen and play dance music all the time...... from that you could conclude that perhaps they weren't really true friends after all, but they were and still are.
but to all of you i can relate to when i am not knuckled off my pickle, these are the ones i treasure. it's great living with my closest friends as well, it's an absolute bonus!
it has taken a lot of sorting, and those who are truly excellent people (especially those who enrich my life, coz face it, that's what friends do!) i don't think there can't be any mountain we can't climb.
drug friends come and go, but true friends are always there.
keep smiling maaaaaaaaate!
LV

 

[DeeCee1]

BFB, Moocho you guys are always putting up interesting and enlighting post, keep it up! .
*big awkward straight manly like hugs*
As soon as a read the first post I thought about Reason, Season and a Lifetime becuase I've received it a few times via email and its one of the few fwd:'s I actually keep. I truely believe in this and you don't realise about the reason or season until its over!..
eg. This guy "Fred" I met last Cup eve, we were crappin on and the topic got onto sports and then coaching.. So I go yep I coach basketball and I friggon lurve it soo much it's one of the best things I have done with myself. He is like ohh I used to coach and loved it to but the club screwed me around and I miss it soo much now.. So I said I could hook him up with a team and so I giot his number.. Gave him a ring the other weekend.. Just to make sure it wasn't the gabbling that made him say that... Nope, He was fair dink'um and was hangin out for me to call...
Now what kinda friendship could this be..
A Reason? - to help me and the club out cause we are short of coaches
A Season (literally) - coach one season and buzz off?
Lifetime - Coaching at the same club seeing each other prolly most weekends (straight), prolly could go out more? and stay close friends
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deeCee1
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[edit 31/10/01] *removes old shitty signature*
*Still thinking of a new one*
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[babydoc_vic]

Now for a response from a jaded mofo

, in my experience, no, they don't hang around once you stop partying. It's the same with friends who stop partying before you do - gone before you can say "why don't you come over for dinner?" (or some other normal recreational pursuit). It can be a bit sad at first, but the real friends stay regardless and that is the important thing.

 

[Xtine22]

I tend to agree that most of your friends through drugs are only your friends whilst you are on drugs, and your friends that aren't into drugs aren't your friends while you are on drugs.... make sense?

 

[madmonkey]

I am a canibalistic monkey......
The drugs ARE my friends.....and I eat em...
means I don't have friends for very long!

nuff said...
btw.....Bunny love your werk man!

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NOTE: Plastic bananas are for eating, not throwing!

 

[blufluffybunny]

^^^^
Unfortunately that crazed monkey has become a pal.
Now he wants to eat me...

 

[CuTiFuL*]

LOLLOLLOL @ MOOCHO!!!

this is a topic that ive often thought about... ive met so many fantastic people through raves and drugs, and i love them just like i love the friends that i met when i was straight. its sad that i only see my 'drug friends' at events which are every couple of weeks, but when i do see them its *fucking HUGE hugz* to them all!

even though the time we spend together is influenced by drugs, it doesnt make it any less special... i prolly wont keep in contact with the ppl i meet at raves n stuff, and this makes me sad... but it doesnt mean that when im old and decrepit, i wont still remember them fondly, and smile at the times we shared, peaking off our nuts and dancing like a mofo

i guess what my rambling is trying to say, is that in my circumstances, i do not care that some friends are 'drug friends' coz they are just important to me as those that arnt. the important thing is that you have friends that you can connect with, without the aid of drugs, so that you dont have to get fucked up every time you wanna go out n have some fun!
geez ive rambled for a bit now... so *hugz* to all my 'drug friends', coz you guys are really special!

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[~bill]

You may not be able to influence the sincerity of your friends... but you can control yours.
So for all of your (party) friends, go out of your way to be the very best friend you can.
That way, you'll be able to say in truth: Some people you meet when out are truly special.
BILL
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Except for me of course, I'm just fucking silly.

 

[melancholic]

rofl at Moocho's post!
very touchy topic i must say...
i think its important to have a balance of friends who do drugs and friends who dont. unfortunately, i dont have much of a balance at the moment... i still do have a sort of category though, one group does the lot and the other just weed.
i think that drugs have a major effect on friendships and when both (or all) of the parties who make up the friendship are into drugs then problems can arise. i believe that regular drug use can have a dramatic influence on friends, both positive and negative. this stems from my belief that personal honesty is very difficult to attain, its very hard to blame yourself for something which could possibly have been the cause of someone else. its very hard to truly judge yourself and come to terms with your mistakes, your faults, your irrationalities etc and this is where i think the problem emerges. both parties of a friendship are regular drug users and both have changed due to that use, yet neither can see the change nor accept it. thus the friendship cracks.
that is why i think it necessary to have friends who are non-drug users, because chances are, they will notice those slight changes that can be the breakdown of any kind of relationship.
of course theres the typical meeting at a club/party where this amazing connection seems to be developed, and then later you realise it was totally fuelled by drugs. yet on the other hand it can also be the opposite. a connection fails to form because one does drugs and the other doesnt, or a particular combination of drugs caused behaviour that is later withdrawn in a drug free environment.
basically, different strokes for different folks. some friendships flourish through drugs and others dont. but for me, i think that you should know who your true friends are - drugs or not. one way of trying to understand how close a friend really is to you, is to imagine you have a problem (personal issue or something deep), who would you feel comfortable telling? would you need drugs to do it? who would put themselves out to actually listen to you, without making judgements and criticisms?
i can think of friendships that have broken down, friendships which have benefited, and friendships which have formed - all due to drugs.
bah i still have a great time catching up with the crowd that i only see at events and clubs! tis good that we sort of started to have drug free meetups as well! i vote for another!

 

[muzby]

along with BFB's reason season and lifetime..
friends are settings based...
eg:
drug friends
work friends
school friends
sporting friends
etc etc...
try taking one into another's environment... doesnt work.... ie.. take a friend from work out on drugs... or take a drug friend to work...
yeah i know, sometimes it does, but most of the time there are conflicts...
u become friends because you have something in common.... so if it is drugs, so be it...
i really dont know what the fuck i am on about here so i will shut up...
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it's only illegal if you get caught....

 

[apollo]

i think you meet people through different avenues... if you only mix with that person in the club/drug scene, only associate with them there... simple... but always give them a shot at being friendly elsewhere... if you have a relationship with someone across all walks of life, great... sounds like you met someone who you get along with... on the same wave length you might say.
my 2c.
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wisest is he who knows that he does not know...

 

[flutter]

I believe drugs can make or break a relationship.
I used to have a group of friends i partied with when i first started going out. They were people from my school who i never really spoke to at school but they were the only ones i knew going to raves etc so i tagged along. 2 years later and i was still partying with them but i mostly saw them at parties. We had several straight gatherings but slowly we drifted apart. I started partying with my boyfriend and they kept on partying with their own group. It was weird. It was like we both knew it was time to move on. Maybe they are my reason/season friends cause they taught me alot bout myself/drugs/parties.
I still see them around and go out with them sometimes but we don't have that same bond anymore.
I now have a new group of party frinds but i see them more staight then i do off my head. Most of them are older and don't party so much anymore. I've known them for about 4 years and been out with them and taken drugs but it's only been over the past year that i've realy gotten to know them and i can say drugs have had a big part to do with it. We were all out one night and it was like they suddenly decided to let me into their group

I can see these guys being my lifelong friends
Drugs can sometimes excelerate a friendship and that is not always a good thing. A friendship needs time to develop and evolve.
For me drugs always make me realise how much i love my friends and reminds me never to take them for granted.
This not only applies to my 'drug' frinds but my straight friends who always make sure i keep my head on (even if they don't realise they are doing it)
Damn it i'm rambling...i don't think i just made sense but anyway.......
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'Life can only be understood backwards but it must be lived forward'

 

[Jonah]

I was just thinking about this kind of thing today. Out of all the people i was partying with this time last year, only two of us still party together, we are also very good friends, each others backbones it seems. Even stranger is the fact that i knew at the time that this was the way it would turn out, even though i had known this person the least at the time. Like bill said it comes down to sincerity. Be yourself and your true friends will always stand out to you.