drug friends

[LuSH^PuPPY]

what a fuckin good topic!!!!

some things that have been said bring tears to my eyes *sniff*

nice words BFB
firstly....moocho...ur post....*grabs u n hugs u* dont really know to say accept..i know exactly what u mean!!

ur a bloody ripper of a bloke
ok heres my lil bit of stuffy stuff to add to this thread.....
the bonds u have with "drug friends" are the best you'll ever have (IMHO) some of the friendships ive made are the best in the world...like i have a better chats with beckasaurus who ive only known since mystic 5 than i do with some of my friends here(in mildura)that ive known for longer than 6 or 7 years!!!
even tho u are under the influence...and u may not keep in contact with your drug friend forever your never goin to forget them...or that night when u met them and they just started rambling to u about some shit that turned into some really indepth conversation...hell....i met my boyf while off my face and we have a fuckin awesome relationship!!! i love him lots!!!
ok...i think ive rambled on enuff know....although i would like to say thanx to all my "ravey" friends n give u all a BIG HUGE HUG!!!!

life wouldnt be the same if i hadnt met u!! well obviously but like it wouldnt be as good as it is now...and i wouldnt get soo excited abotu raves if u all wernt goin to be there

 

[De Quincey]

i have 3 "Lifetime" friends (these are the ones i am 100% certain will always be in my life). they are all bluelighters, but i didn't meet them through bluelight, and i've known them MUCH longer than this little party phase of my life. and i wouldn't change anything about that fact. these guys know me better than anyone could every know from meeting me at parties.
party friends are fun, and useful, and they might turn into lifetime friends. but it takes much much more than a few drugs and a few nights out to get the real deal.
DQ's $0.02

 

[ravy1]

this is a one nice and meaningfull thread.....there r very nice and TRUE posts here and it's actually quite weird to think back again how we are basically here and talk to eachother for the same reason while not knowing all of u strangers ;-P
which of course i believe soem of us has lead a nice and sweet friendship with one and another...
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the feeling of nothing is important but the moment is indeed still here...enjoy to the max..

 

[*Princess_Fifi*]

Yeah... It's nice to meet lots of people when you go out. And it's nice to have friends to go out with...
But it is a hell of a lot nicer to be able to pick up the phone and ring to someone you haven't spoken to in a year, and chat like you saw them yesterday. Or speak to your best friend, being able to talk about anything, knowing that they will understand exactly what you mean, because they've been through half of the experiences with you, been part of the creation of most of the personal jokes, and know the intonation of your voice down to the ground. That stuff just takes years.
However with that said, some people who don't stay in your life for a very long time sometimes do make an impression that stays forever... and that's also pretty special.
imho. of course.
[This message has been edited by *Princess_Fifi* (edited 15 November 2001).]

 

[anfalicious]

Don't want to bring a downer to this thread, or have a go at anyone, but it worries me that lush^puppy said her drug friends are the best she'll ever have... I think this is kind of sad :/ But let's clarify... Are you're drug friends people you've known for ages and are now your party friends as well, are they ppl you met at raves and now hang out with 24/7 or are they people you party with and occasionally see outside of a party?
IMO if you rarely see someone outside of a party, I wouldn't go calling them a really close friend. You mentioned how you bond so closely and everything while you're on drugs, but how many of us here are the same person on wednesday that we were on saturday nite, I know I'm not, and I think if you really look at yourself you wont be either.
I will also not call someone a really close friend until two things happen. Firstly, I need them, if I need someone, and they're not there, then generally I wouldn't class them as a close friend (works the other way round too) and secondly, we have to have had a big fight. I'm talking real big, not some disagreement over where to go, but some large disagreement over something important to both of you. This demonstrates the strength of the relationship, and how adept it is at handling problems.
I may seem skeptical or jaded, but I've had too many so called "good friends" hurt me, so I am very selective with who I let right in these days. For example, I dated my gf nonexclusively (we were seeing other ppl) for 8 months before I was willing to make a commitment to her.
Hope I didnt bring anyone down

Just dont wanna see anyone hurt

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Everyone knows cool hit it's peak in 1974.

 

[LuSH^PuPPY]

i see exactly what your saying

dun worry i didnt take offence...
its hard...u have so much fun when your off your face...and the people just seem to make it all that lil bit better...and i mean like they are all top people....to me like i said ive had better convo's with them than i have with some of my close friends...guess i just *think* they might mean something...maybe im wrong...
im not saying these people are gonna be my life long friends and they are now my closest friends forever...but they are signigicant in my life
besides...whos not to say your "Drug friends" are the maddest ppl when sobar?
but i have to agree you are definatly not the same person when your on them...but u might turn into someone good or someone u want to be (minus the huge pupils, talking shit factor and huge amount of energy)
*shrugs* good topic...brings out some interesting responses

 

[BayCityRolla]

Now that I'm well n truly past my Partying days...I find that my drug/rave friends have drifted out of my life and my old pals from school r now my only real contacts.....
This is not say that I wouldn't be happy to see them again I would love tooo...But we all just moved on in our lives after some hard partying it the early 90's...
I hear some r still hitting the pills hard and some have settled down as well...There r also a few who lost it completely and ended up in homes for the mentally ill....You have to remember that back then there was no Education or Harm Minimiaztion programs or sites like bluelight...Hell I didn't know what was in an E until the mid 90's.....We were all just people caught up in this new wave of Techno music and this wonderfull drug call XTC and our time together all though scattered was the best fun I've had in my life...
I still talk about old times with my school pals and we have a great laugh about them...and ponder where our drug/raves friends might be today...
Cheers
BCR

 

[~Gav~]

I love my partying friends, they are just that person you dont know too well but well enough to be able to be off your head and comfortable with them. I still have the closer friends which I am with pretty much everyday and they are cool too but sometimes I just like to be able to go off on my own and say Hi to ppl from past parties - its kind of like a balance.
It's sad to hear about friends drifting, even if they are just the party/drug friends, they are still a part of your learning experience during life and the moment met them you actually just learnt something - a name, an attitude, how trashed they are at that moment, whatever.
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Fuckin~A

 

[anfalicious]

First off to BayCityRolla, props to the nick dude
Now to the chunky bits.
Personally my drug friend of choice is either a)someone I hardly know or b) someone I dont know at all... I usually scatter away from my mates at parties and find "single serve" friends to hang out with for the nite. The people is one of the main reasons I go to raves, if I didnt seek them out I may as well sit at home with my mates and listen to techno and save myself ticket money

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Everyone knows cool hit it's peak in 1974.

 

[Adikkal]

anfa: I've only been to a handful of events, and only 2 was i peakin at, but just like you, both times i had the great urge to just 'ditch' my friends and find new people to talk to.
I like meeting new people, its fun. I totally agree with your thing about why waste the money on the ticket if your not gonna talk to new ppl at all or whatever.
But as soon as you comedown, the first people you'll be looking for are your real friends, and when you find them, you are so much happier

Speaking from experience anyway
Adikkal

 

[anfalicious]

yup yup

Me and a mate always get to an event together, then split up, then at the end we join up again and go home to share the comedown

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Everyone knows cool hit it's peak in 1974.

 

[*queensmack*]

..after venturing onto kittys computer i decided to take a deep breath and say something that is of high value to my life...
friends?...*sighs*

the people ive met through clubs, come downs, house parties/ gatherings and a 'meet up' at randwick are the people that make up the most important part of my life. i honestly dont know where i would be with out them rite now.
after going through a magor house fire and loosing my flat mate in it...pauses and wipes a tear from her eye... my true friends were the ones who stood by me and offered their love and support...a lot of you i didnt know then except a few...but friends are like treasures. no matter what they look like or are into, its what they think and what they feel thats the main thing.
their heart and soul is what shows a true friend. ive been through a lot with work relocation, moving to sydney then furthur north, aswell as the house fire. but what i can say is that my true friends are the ones who come out with me to clubs, hang around with me during the week and if im tierd and drained or mentally a mess and need huggles or just company they will be there for me...you know who you are... 3 bluelighters in particluar have been SOOooo supportive to me over the last few weeks that i have grown to love them more.
yes i did meet these people in clubs and at come downs, but there is one particular person who under certain circumastances i met and he has proven to be not only there when i need him but there as a friend and an emmotional support. true friends give and take from you. they give their friendship and love and they take what love you have for them in return.
sometimes the best of friends are made while your brain is on a holiday...*somewhere*...ive not found mine yet...*back on subject*...i have friends who are going through tuff times right now with other friends and law enforcements but they know that i am there for them as they were for me.
the most treasured people i my life right now are the people who sit with me through 7 and a half hour smack outs at sublime in the chill out room...*arms wrapped round neck*night i met kitty and lil leecie...the rest of you guys know who you are...people who will yell at me at utopia to get me off the cement ground and unsmack me on the dance floor.
people who come over in the ungoddly hours of the night to cure my depression, people who are there through thick and thin 4 me...THATS A TRUE FRIEND!!!...to the guys i met at utopia and through sublime and other things...my saying*registered but never posted*...now does not apply.
the bond i have with these people is somewhat of amazing...words cant explain it...
love you all,
*queensmack* HUGGLES AND KISSES
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has anyone seen my mind? its around here some where. if so please send it back!

 

[moocho]

*hugz*
Looking after each other, it's like the number one rule of bluelight right?

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When i was asleep, a vampire climbed in through my window and bit me. The worst part was that after, he sat and chatted with me for three hours and then stole all my trance.

 

[Miss Peks]

Drug friends, hmmmm what can I say??
I guess though that I should remind people that sometimes these people aren't what they seem to be when you go out with them every weekend, and basically go hard at it for a couple of months. You think that you have a lot in common with them, but really you may have nothing in common with this person.You may think that the drugs or music aren't the basis of your friendship, but really it is! Trust me I know this from experience!!
People aren't always what you think they are!! Sometimes they lie to you, sometimes they keep secrets from you that they think you don't know, but all along you really know, and sometimes they find someone else like a guy or something and drop you like a hotcake.
When one of these people decides to stop partying, maybe they'll find that they don't want to talk with you anymore, because they think that all you're into is the parties, and they've got nothing to gain from you anymore, becuase they've got nothing to use you for. Maybe they didn't consider that just maybe you have other intrests as well, and ideas etc etc. Maybe they don't care about losing a friend that they used to hang around with at least 3 times a week, well at least I thought that this person was a friend, until I realised that this person really didn't care about our so called friendship.
Well I care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm just sick of being let down, sick of being used and sick of petty lies etc etc.
On a better note, I've met lots of great friends from parties and BL etc etc that I know I'll keep in touch with if I don't go out anymore. These people have been with me through thick and thin for the last few months, and I'd just like to say thankyou to these people. No need for me to mention names, I'm sure you know who you all are.

For the people from here that I sometimes hang around with, but don't really talk to that much (I'm sure some of you will know who you are too), I guess that's because even though I can be a social person, and I am practically everywhere on my weekends off work, I just don't get ummmm chatty with everyone. Some people I get along with straight away and others it takes me awhile, doesn't mean I don't like you though.
So yeah that's my summary on the whole thing. Think what you like about the whole thing, but I guess it's a lesson of life. Some people take advantage of you for different things, perhaps I was some sort of escape, and that's why I was being used, I dunno, but I'm doing my best not to let it happen again.
and I'll be damned if it does.......

 

[MoW^WoW]

I have never REALLY thought about this, and now that i have it is quite depressing...
I agree completely with the lifetime, season, reason trend of friends, but that makes the whole thing seem worse than it actually is.
Lifetime... friends forever... I can not honestly think of anyone I confide in enough, or even know well enough to imagine I'll be friends with them forever. Everyone seems to just fade away.
Lifetime friends are the ones people need more than any other..
Reason friends... does that include ravers? Pure going out only raver friends? cos if it does, that makes things even worse..
that brings me to a question...
Who thinks they are going to be partying forever.? What age does everyone think they will stop?
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[Luko]

here's how it's worked for me quite a few times. You meet someone when you're out, have a cool time together. You also get along really well outside the rave/drug scene, so you mutually figure you're good friends regardless. But sooner or later you find that when you spend time together straight, you don't have as much fun as you do on bickys etc. So subconsciously you spend MORE time together fucked, and less time together straight until the balance is well and truly tipped in the favour of being drug friends. And then, when you realise that, you have a bit of a think.. and it's downhill from there :/
It's been my experience this happens about half the time.. the other half of the ppl you meet, you form a good friendship and it lasts despite the drugs. I'm still waiting to see what happens when I tone it all down and don't go out so regularly, I think a lot of things will change then and it will become clearer who's a good friend and who isn't.

 

[apollo]

very well put luko. very, very well put.
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wisest is he who knows that he does not know...

 

[plazma]

I'm feeling a bit cynical tonight so I thought I'd rewrite my post. I've realised sitting here tonight, that there's only about 2 friends I have who I've met outside of bluelight. One of these friends is now a bluelighter. Both of them do drugs. I don't have any friends who don't do drugs. I don't have any people I care about outside 'the scene'.
This disturbs me a fuckload. One of the characteristics of addiction is having your life revolve around the drug (or drugs). Which mine does. I talk drugs to all my friends, that's all I usually have to talk about. I might be interested in a whole lot more stuff than that, and belive me, I am. But I just don't feel like I have that much in common with even many of those people who I care about the most.
A friend is a friend, no matter how you meet them, right? Wrong, dead set bullshit WRONG. I've dropped so far I'm at the stage where I'm not sure if I even HAVE any friends. I don't know what my life was like before drugs. Nor do I care about much besides drugs to any casual observer. So most people I've met, I don't really know them besides that they like drugs too.
In short. I'm feeling kinda lost and kinda sad.
-plaz out-
[ 29 January 2002: Message edited by: plazma ]

 

[sydkiwi]

i have a small bunch of friends some close others just the people i get fucked up with on the weekend.
i realise they come and go, but have to watch im not getting used, for wot ever reason. whether it be drugs (i dont deal, but since i have a job and plenty of disposable income its can get a bit hmm....)

 

[De Spook]

um, i don't think that atm i could say i have any one friend who would simply drop everything and come on 'round.
sure i have a GF and i know that she would do that for me, and no offence to her, but this is something that has been bothering me for a while now.
for me there are a couple of groups.
one: the old school mates. the guys who i hung out with at school and did the friday evening pizza and movies at someone's house, and shit like that. and sure we still catch up. play soccer and do the occasional thing together. but none of these guys are interested in "raving" or the "scene". they are more your pub/pool playing types of guys.
i love to hand out with them, and do house parties and stuff, but they don't ever really organise things. so it's hard to make time to see them.
two: the primary school friend. i have known her since i was 10. the girl who i could call my sister. can go for two years and not talk and then see each other every day for three months. and the extension of that group. they like to party. they like to do different things. but 'cos i only really know one of them, i don't often get the "hey let's go out" phone call. it's nice to catch up now and then. but they aren't my best friends.
three: the people i see at parties. i guess i've been going to "raves" now for about 4 years. but never was a pill muncher until about a year ago. so it was simply the fact that i didn't mind getting to the party on my own and then having a boogie and talking to some scattered people. i'm an extravert in that case. but these friendships never developed into anything outside of the raves.
neither really have the BL friendships.
four the work mates: now these are strictly the guys who i would go and see after work or at work specific functions. so i don't see them anywhere else.
and then there is the GF, who i can shoot the shit with and talk to for hours, and never get tired. have no trouble being just the two of us.
now, i work 3pm till 11pm. which makes the evening things a little tricky. and also when i go out, i tend to get there by myself and spend a lot of the night alone. cos i don't really know who is going. also i am one of those who really does go for the music. if i don't like the music i go home. so i don't have that many drug friends. i tend to take the drugs fairly seriously, um, another topic all together.
now my question is: i know where i'm going, but why is it hard to find a group that does the same as me?
whatever. just ranting. just kinda wondering why i can't seem to take the "single serving" friends further. into daily life?
is it work? is it lifestyle? hurumph.
do others wonder where they are going?