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Drug education in school

Dont get me started!!

RIGHT, im a science teacher, 11- 16 year olds..... k?

i have had a heroin habit for 11 years.......k?

now, in the uk, drugs and sex ed is shite!!!!!

as a science teacher, i do get to do a bit of drugs ed, but its set by the exam board, and the whole ed system is so fucked up with targets, and league tables and feckin inspectors, that ya dont get the time, nor the support to do these things how they could best be done....

i know a fair bit, and i believe in educated choices in life, i educated meself about the dangers of drugs by readin loads of leaflets and stuff, and actually became obsessed.....thats another story

anyway, i was observed teachin alesson bout drugs a coupla months back, twas clear the kids were hooked (ha ha) and actually learning and intrigued by the stories i was tellin them..... not gonna go into big details about it, but i didnt do the lesson in an "ofsted" style, so got told it was inadequate, but me subject knowledge was very good...... cheeky cunt, stayed for the whole lesson.....told me i shoulda taught more about heroin.......well. i wouldve done, the kids wouldve learnt loads from me (all me SWIM stories ahem, but it wouldna been in that style, im a clever lady!!)

cheeky fuckin cunt... i had a whole series of lessons planned ,this one was an intro to "what is a drug: socially acceptable(alcohol) prescribed (benzoes) and illegal heroin

man, iwas gonna have a field day teachin them lovely kids about stuff,

so, as a result of bein told it was inadequate, i went off sick , well also as a result of there bein a heroin drought in this country and me bein a lil sick coz of it

call me a bad bitch if ya like, but theres plenty a them cunts come to work reekin of drink
 
^ It was nice to hear this from the POV of someone on the education side of things.
 
pinkpapaver said:
RIGHT, im a science teacher, 11- 16 year olds..... k?

i have had a heroin habit for 11 years.......k?

now, in the uk, drugs and sex ed is shite!!!!!

as a science teacher, i do get to do a bit of drugs ed, but its set by the exam board, and the whole ed system is so fucked up with targets, and league tables and feckin inspectors, that ya dont get the time, nor the support to do these things how they could best be done....

i know a fair bit, and i believe in educated choices in life, i educated meself about the dangers of drugs by readin loads of leaflets and stuff, and actually became obsessed.....thats another story

anyway, i was observed teachin alesson bout drugs a coupla months back, twas clear the kids were hooked (ha ha) and actually learning and intrigued by the stories i was tellin them..... not gonna go into big details about it, but i didnt do the lesson in an "ofsted" style, so got told it was inadequate, but me subject knowledge was very good...... cheeky cunt, stayed for the whole lesson.....told me i shoulda taught more about heroin.......well. i wouldve done, the kids wouldve learnt loads from me (all me SWIM stories ahem, but it wouldna been in that style, im a clever lady!!)

cheeky fuckin cunt... i had a whole series of lessons planned ,this one was an intro to "what is a drug: socially acceptable(alcohol) prescribed (benzoes) and illegal heroin

man, iwas gonna have a field day teachin them lovely kids about stuff,

so, as a result of bein told it was inadequate, i went off sick , well also as a result of there bein a heroin drought in this country and me bein a lil sick coz of it

call me a bad bitch if ya like, but theres plenty a them cunts come to work reekin of drink
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My friend owns a bar/pizza shop. Theres a group of 10 school teachers that teach at a highschool down the street get paid every Thursday & they come down to the bar to eat a few sandwiches & get plastered. Its funny how these teachers find getting drunk is okay. My friend also says that have those teachers are in his bar every Saturday getting hammered.
 
I remember being told by my middle school health teacher that boys who smoke weed before puberty may grow boobs. It scared the shit out of me, and I used to feel my chest all the time to make sure nothing funny was going on...
 
Teen Drugs Abuse and Education

Hello fellow Bluelighters,

It has been a long time since i've posted on this forum. I have been a member of BL for almost 11 years and greatly respect the impact it had on my active using days in the capacity of harm reduction. I have been continuing my own journey after a severe addiction to IV heroin and cocaine. I am coming up on 2 years of abstinence from all drugs and alcohol without the use of AA or NA. During this time I have started a job at a treatment center in Delray Beach, FL and have been given a project to work on.

This project entails the education of teens and their parents on drug abuse and use, we have been approved by the Palm Beach School board for use of this program in county schools. My challenge right now is gathering what would be appropriate information for teens specifically. I am arranging literature to hand out to these teens. The purpose is to be relatable but also informative. We want to open these lines of communication in our community with families and their children, giving them a safe place and way to communicate about their use without being demonized.

In short all the ads on TV trying to keep kids from using drugs don't work. We all know that. What would you do differently?

In the nature of Bluelight's purpose as a harm reduction site I am reaching out to the community and asking; what would you as a teen have responded to that may have prevented or reduced the harm you may have caused through drug and alcohol abuse? All suggestions and information are welcome. Would you reduce harm and encourage education and information? If so, how? Would you eliminate fear tactics and replace them with something more positive? Would you encourage communication with the families and schools?

I would love to see some of my fellow Bluelighters be a part of this amazing cause to help reduce the risk of damage done to our youth! I will be posting the website address within the next few weeks and would love to see some of the information posted on here on our website. Please help!
 
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I'm going to move this to Drug Culture for now. I think we have a similar thread there that might have some useful input.

Homeless --> DC

edit: related reading
 
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pinkpapaver said:
RIGHT, im a science teacher, 11- 16 year olds..... k?

i have had a heroin habit for 11 years.......k?

now, in the uk, drugs and sex ed is shite!!!!!

as a science teacher, i do get to do a bit of drugs ed, but its set by the exam board, and the whole ed system is so fucked up with targets, and league tables and feckin inspectors, that ya dont get the time, nor the support to do these things how they could best be done....

i know a fair bit, and i believe in educated choices in life, i educated meself about the dangers of drugs by readin loads of leaflets and stuff, and actually became obsessed.....thats another story

anyway, i was observed teachin alesson bout drugs a coupla months back, twas clear the kids were hooked (ha ha) and actually learning and intrigued by the stories i was tellin them..... not gonna go into big details about it, but i didnt do the lesson in an "ofsted" style, so got told it was inadequate, but me subject knowledge was very good...... cheeky cunt, stayed for the whole lesson.....told me i shoulda taught more about heroin.......well. i wouldve done, the kids wouldve learnt loads from me (all me SWIM stories ahem, but it wouldna been in that style, im a clever lady!!)

cheeky fuckin cunt... i had a whole series of lessons planned ,this one was an intro to "what is a drug: socially acceptable(alcohol) prescribed (benzoes) and illegal heroin

man, iwas gonna have a field day teachin them lovely kids about stuff,

so, as a result of bein told it was inadequate, i went off sick , well also as a result of there bein a heroin drought in this country and me bein a lil sick coz of it

call me a bad bitch if ya like, but theres plenty a them cunts come to work reekin of drink
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Hahah, you are a legend. And OFSTED can fuck themselves, especially since you sound like you did a real good job with that lesson and of course they wouldn't want you doing anything but throwing test papers at the kids.
I remember we once had this ex-cop who used to tell us stories about how he got chased by armed dealers and all that because he did undercover work. May have been bullshit but that sort of stuff was real intriguing and got everyone involved in the lesson discussions.

Also, we never really got any half decent sex ed and the only drug ed we got was a TALK TO FUCKING FRANK leaflet, which left my hands as soon as I got it.
 
Drug Education in Schools: Is Non Existent

I was just saying in another thread that I was the victim of DARE. I actually met the pig who started the campaign. I remember he had a gold-plated pistol in a frame on his wall. He was a sort-of friend to a family member that I cherish.
 
verso said:
I remember being told by my middle school health teacher that boys who smoke weed before puberty may grow boobs. It scared the shit out of me, and I used to feel my chest all the time to make sure nothing funny was going on...
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In my middle school health class they told me boy's penis will shrink and they would grow boobs while a girl's clit would enlarge and their boobs would shrink if they smoked. They also said dealers cut weed with rat poison to add to the weight.
 
phenethylo J said:
In my middle school health class they told me boy's penis will shrink and they would grow boobs while a girl's clit would enlarge and their boobs would shrink if they smoked. They also said dealers cut weed with rat poison to add to the weight.
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I was told the same thing. Rat poison, Windex and PCP. Having smoked mj for 10 years exactly now I can say I've never encountered a product that had be laced, with anything (to my knowledge). And now the notion of somebody putting PCP on my weed for free makes me laugh.
 
I actually had an awesome drug program at my high school. We had a guy come in, called him "the drug guy", he's a former addict, now a public speaker. He never once just said "drugs are bad, don't do them." He answered any question a student asked. His approach was more towards harm reduction, which was awesome.

Students actually opened up to him about serious problems, like addiction in their families, etc.

He always had funny stories about tripping and doing coke at parties where the people weren't accepting of it.. really good speaker
 
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I just remember the general message in school being "drugs are horrible don't do them or bad things will happen!!!!". Haha. In grade school we were told not to let anyone put stickers on us if we were at a party because they may have drugs in them.

IMO, I think it's better to just be straight up with kids and not try to freak them out. Answer whatever questions they have.


ETA: This should be shown in all schools. Problem solved.
 
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The anti-drug talks in school just made me more curious about trying drugs. I'm pretty much programmed with an intense curiosity that drives me to do exactly whatever I'm told not to do.

If they never had those talks in school, I probably never would have heard what drugs were until I was older. But by age 8 I knew what speed, cocaine, heroin, pot, LSD, etc. were. Even though I wasn't clear on what they did, I knew their names. Then I could start doing research. And eventually, you will come across someone who has them and is willing to let you try them.

It's like telling kids to just not have sex. Of course they're going to do it. I think getting altered is hard wired into humanity. We're meant to do it. Maybe not everyone wants to get ripped on a psychedelic, but everyone has their alterants they're into, whether it be sugar, caffeine, alcohol, sedative teas, etc. Everyone's doing something. Best that we acknowledge it and carry on instead of putting 1% of the population in jail for it.
 
couldnt DARE just have toned it down a notch?

we all know by now that the "this is your brain on drugs" PSA has been a laughing stock for years, but i think if they didnt go with such a militant "ALL DRUGS BAD, ALL DRUGS SAME" attitude they could have made some fairly decent and harm reducing points. See this PSA for example (Original Content of 20max10 DO NOT STEAL)

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adverts like these could have actually addressed specific drug issues instead of just saying theyre all evil

bear in mind that the subject matter being discussed in my PSA and my current personal situation are very cklosely linked, so if none of this made sense please just laugh and call me names

Max
 
Oh I can see it now.
TRUE DRUG STORIES
DREW
Man I got so blacked our on xanax last night I lost my keys, wallet, and ordered 3 lamas off the web. Then I went and ate all my roommates food out the fridge. So kids if you take xanax have a friend there to show you where you hid your valuables.
 
my etiz has worm off and im embarassed by this thread
it happens to the best of us!
 
20max10 said:
we all know by now that the "this is your brain on drugs" PSA has been a laughing stock for years, but i think if they didnt go with such a militant "ALL DRUGS BAD, ALL DRUGS SAME" attitude they could have made some fairly decent and harm reducing points. See this PSA for example (Original Content of 20max10 DO NOT STEAL)

qlNkJo4.png


adverts like these could have actually addressed specific drug issues instead of just saying theyre all evil

bear in mind that the subject matter being discussed in my PSA and my current personal situation are very cklosely linked, so if none of this made sense please just laugh and call me names

Max
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There are several threads on this topic, so I'm going to merge this in with one of the most current ones. I have another one linked in here in another one of my posts, and here is another.
 
To begin, I was enrolled in 5th grade (as an 11 yr. old) when DARE was perpetrated upon me. It seems others, from what I've read here, experienced the program earlier and later depending on their area and/or school.

The one thing I can say w/ certainty is I have mixed feelings on this matter; I was hoping to read a case for implementing an HR type curricula in drug ed. which would win me over, but I am still loathe to agree. Actually, another certainty I realized is I'd prefer mandatory HR to DARE any day of the week - twice on Sundays. When it comes time for my (hypothetical) children to take DARE, I will opt them out of it, forbid their participation, and if are sufficiently mature enough or in need of the info, I will share my views and knowledge of drugs w/ them myself - or hopefully w/ my wife. Drugs, like sex, are discussions in which I will forgo a middleman (ie a police officer) whose views are almost assured to not reflect my own.

From my own upbringing, and from what I knew/know of my peers, this didn't take place in many households. Hence, like many of my friends, our education on these crucial matters was delegated to an outsider - in my case a police officer for drugs, a PRIEST for sex. Obviously, these figures, by nature of their profession, carry a thorough bias toward their subject matter.

Yet, as was proposed by Keaton, the first OP, referring young students to BL seems wrong to me. It is easy to draw parallels between sex ed and drug ed, but I feel they cannot be argued on the same basis. For instance, most every human being will experience sexual intercourse at varying consistency in their lives; this statement is far more reliable than making the same assertion about drugs. Many people simply do not need the exposure to proper Iv technique. I introduced this post stating my age when I did DARE b/c I think as young as 11 is way premature for even an honest and open discussion on all things drugs. This isn't to say I do not believe in access to this information, but a mandatory course comprised of BL and erowid before the age of 17 (if not ever) is an unnecessary exposure to subjects best left outside of school.

Not only do I find teaching young kids proper ways to ingest things infeasible, I find it extreme. But as mentioned before, DARE is even more repugnant and irresponsible, so if people in school policy are out there endeavoring for a middle path to help all the young people abandoned to ignorance in the name of morality by their parents and the system then I applaud you.
 
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