Drawing up dope

[misanthropypure]

Recently I had to get dope from a junkie not the source, the dope I got was weird.. when I mixed it and put the cotton in, and tried to draw it up, it clumped up in the cotton and I could not draw it up into the needle, mind you this happened quit a few times with this specific kid, im assuming I got fake shit...what do you guys think, was it fake or what? also my second question is..whenever i draw up from the cotton, the cotton is still darkened and discolored..does this mean that I did not get all the dope out? am I doing something wrong?

 

[indicameds]

Where gonna need more info to even try to help you on the fake or not part. Like is it tar or powder or what texture? Ive had plenty different kinds of dope and some of them where not so water soluble. But Opiates them self are so good dope should mix up and draw up east unless its tar or something. And yeah if the cotton is still staying dark then theres more in it. Unless its just dark dope.

 

[misanthropypure]

Im sorry about the lack of information, the dope I am getting is usually off white powder sometimes tan, I am on the east coast so I only get glassine packaged bags, I also noticed about my normal dope is that usually the texture looks like little flat chunks along with just powder, also usually smells bitter and when adding water to it and mixed it completely dissolves, the dope I think is fake doesent dissolve it looks like it just cakes up and clumps to the needle and cotton, it also smells WAY different than my normal stuff. Also any tips on being able to draw up ALL of the dope so the cotton isn't holding any of it in there still?. I just want to add on another quick question as well, im sure it will be able to be answered easily. Whenever I put the needle in I only see a tiny amount of blood go into the needle, what am I doing wrong?

 

[Mass08]

I'd be very nervous about injecting anything that is clumping...

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Im sorry about the lack of information, the dope I am getting is usually off white powder sometimes tan, I am on the east coast so I only get glassine packaged bags, I also noticed about my normal dope is that usually the texture looks like little flat chunks along with just powder, also usually smells bitter and when adding water to it and mixed it completely dissolves, the dope I think is fake doesent dissolve it looks like it just cakes up and clumps to the needle and cotton, it also smells WAY different than my normal stuff. Also any tips on being able to draw up ALL of the dope so the cotton isn't holding any of it in there still?. I just want to add on another quick question as well, im sure it will be able to be answered easily. Whenever I put the needle in I only see a tiny amount of blood go into the needle, what am I doing wrong?

We can't really help you figure out what is in your dope or whether or not it was fake, it would just be guessing. It could be be that the cut is not soluble in water (in which case you would not want to draw up the cut). Please don't inject anything that clumps or gels up. Don't do it, it can wreck your veins permanently, not to mention it clearly can't be safe to be putting the clumps or gel in your body. Does it smell like vinegar?

I'll leave this open for now so we can answer your other question about registering. What do you mean exactly, that only a tiny bit of blood enters the syringe regardless of how much you pull back on the plunger? Does it like enter the syringe and then stop? Is this happening in multiple veins? I have had this happen to me before, it was due to injecting poorly processed dope with impurities that (and/or was or clumpy/gelly) and damaged my veins. also when I've hit tiny delicate veins and the vein collapses right away.

 

[misanthropypure]

Yeah I figured it was cut.. I was so angered that I flushed the shit right away, the (dope) that I got smelled different it wasent like the normal bitter smelling stuff I get, It wouldent draw up so with another bag of the same stuff I had, I snorted.. when I used to sniff I would always get a bitter drip in my throat, with this stuff the drip was unexplainable, it was not like the normal stuff, I did not get high as well off snorting it, mind you I did 6 bags. Also when I inject I usually dont pull back i automatically see a little blood flow into the top of the syringe before the numbers, where the needle ends. This is usually my indicator of weather or not I am in the vein.. should I pull back on the plunger slowly for now on?

 

[tentram]

if you didn't get high it's obviously bunk. why? well we can't answer that - it could be any number of reasons.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Also when I inject I usually dont pull back i automatically see a little blood flow into the top of the syringe before the numbers, where the needle ends. This is usually my indicator of weather or not I am in the vein.. should I pull back on the plunger slowly for now on?

Yes you should gently pull back a little on the plunger, that would be more accurate.

 

[maxalfie]

I would avoid buying anymore of this gear from that bloke and try to find a better connect if possible.

 

[misanthropypure]

He acts as the middle man.. I drive him to the spot and he usually will throw me a free one if we go out there, or if i have cash. Recently lost my car and he tried selling me bags, i bought into it and thats what I got from him..bunk shit..im assuming since he thought he had no use for me anymore he put a whole bunch of non water soluble cut in the bag and took all the dope out. But every time i drive to the spot the dope is obviously awesome. I cant get him to give the connect up though =/ its horrible nothing I do or say can convince him..i really hate having to drive him around to score..id rather have the connect on my own..he tells me the dealer does not like meeting new people it sketches him out.. I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT...every dealer wants more customers=more cash..hes full of shit and is ripping me off im sure..even though im getting it for 10 a bag. it could be even less than that...i really wish I could get the connect from him somehow..he even used my phone once to make a call to him.. i looked in the phone history to see if the number was still in there..he deleted it...so hes definitely really trying to keep this connect from me..in order to make money off of me.. I dont know anyone else or how to get the connect..so im forced to stick with this piece of shit kid.

 

[tentram]

you're not stuck with him. do the rounds and see if you can wrastle up a new middleman that's willing to introduce you to his guy by building a good rapport with them. do some shopping around. eventually a dealer will fall into your lap.

do you have any friends/acquaintances that use? maybe they can help you out in respect of finding a reliable middleman or, better yet, a dealer.

 

[BlueHues]

He acts as the middle man.. I drive him to the spot and he usually will throw me a free one if we go out there, or if i have cash. Recently lost my car and he tried selling me bags, i bought into it and thats what I got from him..bunk shit..im assuming since he thought he had no use for me anymore he put a whole bunch of non water soluble cut in the bag and took all the dope out. But every time i drive to the spot the dope is obviously awesome. I cant get him to give the connect up though =/ its horrible nothing I do or say can convince him..i really hate having to drive him around to score..id rather have the connect on my own..he tells me the dealer does not like meeting new people it sketches him out.. I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT...every dealer wants more customers=more cash..hes full of shit and is ripping me off im sure..even though im getting it for 10 a bag. it could be even less than that...i really wish I could get the connect from him somehow..he even used my phone once to make a call to him.. i looked in the phone history to see if the number was still in there..he deleted it...so hes definitely really trying to keep this connect from me..in order to make money off of me.. I dont know anyone else or how to get the connect..so im forced to stick with this piece of shit kid.

You know where the spot is, do you know what the dealer looks like....It may freak you out but maybe you should head over there and see if you can find him or somebody else...

 

[misanthropypure]

Typically when I am with the middleman, I make conversation and get to know him, I have known him for years but not closely. I am able to make him laugh and make jokes and he seems to like me somewhat..I guess not enough if he isnt giving me the connect. I know a few dopeheads in my town, 2 of them are on methadone and staying away from the dope. One of them is in rehab, and the other I would have to get in touch with although that would be weird because I dont know him..just of him. I know the spot real well, I know how to get there and all that.. I have contemplated on standing outside the spot to try and get a number..but I highly doubt that would work for two reasons. 1. I would get arrested, because the area is a known heroin spot. 2. I would be perceived as a cop just standing outside a spot asking for connects. Not many people in my town do dope..the most they do is roxys..( I dont understand it). Im hoping one of these days the middleman i run with will "like" me enough to give me the connect..because it really sucks relying on this person. I guess I will continue to try and get close with this person even though I dont like him. I hope it works -_-

 

[misanthropypure]

Also a lot of the time..the main guy will send out runners to do his work for him. So it can vary who will be out there..and most times you have to go into the apartment building to get it. Its a weird set up. From WHAT I DO KNOW, you stand by the door of the apartment building which usually locks behind itself when it is closed. You call the guy he has a guy open it and tells you to go to a specific floor and thats how it roles..or he just meets you in the lobby. I cant keep getting middle maned..its horrible I dont know if you guys know the feeling.. its a very shit one

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I know that frustrating feeling, but unfortunately we can't really help you with advice on how to get a solid dealer - the purpose of this forum not to help people buy drugs.

Honestly, I've gotten shitty dope that gels up even from good normally reliable dealers. It happens sometimes. All you can really do at this point is not inject it and complain to whoever you bought it from. You would of course be better off with your own reliable connect (although not from an addiction standpoint), but we can't help you with that part. I am very compassionate to your situation but we can't be seen as helping people engage in illegal acts.

You know where the spot is, do you know what the dealer looks like....It may freak you out but maybe you should head over there and see if you can find him or somebody else...

^I would not advise that. That could even be unsafe. Most heroin dealers who don't sell on the street do not take kindly to random people they don't know trying to find them, for obvious reasons. I think tentram's ideas are wiser.

Since this thread is turning into tips on how to get a dealer or subvert the middleman, which as I explained above is not appropriate here, I'm going to close it. Please PM me if you have any questions.