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DPT - 1st time - Waking from a dream

raybeez

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T = -6hrs: I weigh out 90.66mg of DPT HCl on an analytical scale accurate to +/- 10 micrograms. I plan on dosing 40-45mg of DPT, and sadly, will have to split up the powder by eye once at home. If only this scale was sitting in my living room, and not here at work.

T = -30min: Sitting in my apartment, preparing to dose DPT. Some pre-trip information follows:
- Healthy 23 year old male; vegetarian; 6'0, 170 lbs
- Prescribed medication: Amitriptyline 7.5mg/day (migraine prophylaxis)

Mindset: It’s been five years since I’ve had a positive hallucinogenic experience. Usually once every year or two I’ve again tested the waters with psychedelic tryptamine/phenethylamines, but these experiences have been characterized by either ‘bad trips’ flirting with psychosis, or post-trip HPPD type effects.

Lately I’ve been feeling like I’ve forgotten or de-integrated many of the life-changing insights and reflections I had attained via psychedelic use. It was time to re-immerse myself in the experience, and I chose DPT, a compound I had never tried, to be the vehicle.

T = 0: Previously measured DPT powder divided into two even-lines. One line snorted (~40-45mg).

T = 1min: Sweaty palms and runny nose.

T = 4min: Without meaning to, I fall into a deep-meditation style breathing pattern. I can feel myself progressing 'upwards', but the pace feels relaxed. I don't feel like I'm 'rocketing' into the trip at any type of uncomfortable pace. Slight vibrations begin to take hold in my mind and body, but I feel very relaxed and cozy. I have a noticeable ‘drip’, but I’ve had much worse of many other drugs.

T = 9min: Intensity continues to build. I start feeling somewhat chilled, put on a hoodie, and grab a blanket. My cat crawls onto my lap, and begins to purr affectionately. I appreciate his attention and pet him lovingly. I'm suddenly struck with an odd, surreal feeling -- like I've just woken up from a lovely dream. A natural sort of waking up; not the sudden 'start' of a beeping alarm clock, but the soft gentle feeling of waking up on a weekend from the warmth of a summer sun against your skin, feeling fully rested and at peace.

T = 11min: Enter the DPT peak. Time slowed down, and from here until when I felt as though I was coming down felt like it lasted many hours longer than it actually did. Things were intense to the point that I wanted to close my eyes and just 'be'; warm and safe under the blanket with my cat sitting on me. I felt cold, but not uncomfortable. Body load was noticeable; my stomach felt strange and warm, almost queasy but the rest of me was cold. I felt very detached from these physical feelings, and if I had to go throw up, I might not have even realized it was me being sick.

I remember remarking to myself that the high was like a ‘soft’ LSD. The mindstate was very similar in depth and perspective, but it lacked any sort of ‘raw’ feeling to it. I felt like some ‘cloud force’ was protecting my psyche from total negative and destructive feelings that often arise in me when I approach or arrive at ego loss. It was a very comforting sensation, and I greatly appreciated the ‘insulated’ feeling – I was floating down the psychedelic tryptamine river with a life preserver on.

I began to dwell further on this particular river analogy. With my eyes closed, I could feel my consciousness drifting along with the trip; no longer vertical rising, but being carried along horizontally like a passenger in a boat on a river. Suddenly, I was the water currents themselves, and the path that I was flowing down was not the straight-and-narrow. I flowed like water eddies around a rock – curling back on myself in spirals. I opened my eyes and this spiral image was superimposed everywhere: My cats face; A painting on my wall of a psychedelic 60’s flower girl. I recognized the spiral – it was the golden spiral, derived from the golden ratio (Fibonacci sequence).

T = 37min: I looked at the time, and closed my eyes again. My thoughts continued to gyrate in a spiraling motion. With my eyes closed, I began typing my thoughts blindly into a .txt notepad file. My writing flowed stream-of-consciousness style from my finger tips, and I dwelled on the relationship between spirals and language. Language is something that I had studied in the past before switching my academic interests to the sciences. I ‘tripped’ on the inefficiencies of language in properly communicating thoughts and ideas, and the sadness at requiring convention in ideas. The image of boat or a chair in one’s mind, versus the real object. Language at best is able to ‘spiral’ around the ideas that it tries to communicate, infinitively approaching a true or accurate description, but never quite being able to reach it.

I took pause here to reflect on my current mental and physical state. I was shivering now, and felt bone chillingly cold. Here’s a passage from my raw .txt notes that I typed around this time:

“Swimming in dpt space still very cold but shivers are just energy that can be translated into warm energy and warm my body I just can't put the mentality into it right now as the heat in my stomach/solarplexus spikes up the bodyload nausea rather be cold and have less body load strange that I feel like I can control trip aspects like how I'm feeling physically via a mental interface. This is just thoughttalk though.”

What was essentially happening was that I was ‘flipping’ between two states of body load – a cold state where energy/vibrations were manifesting as shivers, and a warm state where I felt incredible energy surges (almost amphetamine like) but a burning nausea in my stomach. I was able to flip between these two types of body load feelings just by focusing my mind on it, and came to the realization that both were just mental responses to the drug rather than any type true type of physiological response. I decided to take my body temperature (digital thermometer, under the tongue) while in both ‘body load states’ just to confirm this – in both cases my body temperature was perfectly normal (36.5 degC). Again, neither was truly uncomfortable or detracting from the trip, and mentally I still felt very safe, relaxed, and comfortable.

T = 42min : I examine my current tripping mindset again. I’m bouncing back and forth between +2 and +3, and loving every minute of it. I’m very happy I chose DPT as the drug to return to this type of headspace. Here’s what I wrote in my notepad log:

“it seems to come in waves but why would I be surprised everything seems to come that way in this world but this world is THE world I have to keep that in mind.. its just so hard to tune in to this frequency.. at this dose I still feel like a tourist here“

I was reflecting on the psychedelic experience again, and lamenting about my inabilities to integrate this type of thought pattern into my routine life. I think I made an important realization here – the psychedelic mindspace and the normal mindspace are NOT different; rather, they’re one in the same. It’s just a matter of tuning into the correct frequency.

What did I mean by being a tourist? I realized that I was still going to come away from this trip unable to make the experience any more real to my every day life than I would as a tourist visiting another culture. For example, visiting and living with people of another culture versus actually growing up, being raised, and living the ways of that culture. I think that more insight might have been gained with a higher dose, which will certainly be tried in the future.

T = 60min : The peak has passed, and I can open my eyes, walk around, and interact with my surroundings without much more than a +1 high. I get up to pee, and suddenly realize that twice during the peak of the high I had gotten up and peed as well… strange.

T = 85min : I smoke a few hits of weed, and the pot overpowers what’s left of the DPT high. Within the next 20 minutes I’m pretty much baseline except for the cannabis effects.
 
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beautiful, dude.

I too get the realization that the psychedelic mindstate and the normal mindstate are the same.... or maybe I'm always the same even though I feel like a better person while on psychedelics. I hate to look into it too much though, it depresses me that I'm not tuning into that frequency throughout my life when it's always needed.
 
I've discovered that DPT is one of the few tryptamines that doesn't just whack me for six and leave me floundering in a semi-anxious state that I can't deal with very well. It's definitely a treasure that many people have yet to come across, by reading various threads
 
Interesting statement fastandbulbous. I always thought that DPT (from reading other people's experiences) was one of the more powerful and fear-inducing tryptamines. I don't know firsthand, since I've only tried snorting 25mg which was a low dose. I do know that I am anxious to learn more about this chemical and visit the DPT space for myself.

Great trip report Raybeez, I imagine I'll be seeing it on erowid (eventually). I'm interested in hearing about some of the uncomfortable trips you had over the past few years. Did they show you any information? Was there any change in yourself that led to this positive experience, or do you feel it was an aspect of DPT?
 
treefingers, although DPT is quite intense it never produced the fear that i get with things like mushrooms (and on occasion 4 ho mipt).
It is similar to 2c-e in that respect. On my 20mg 2c-e experience i kept thinking that it was far to intense for me to handle yet i never felt scared or threatened by it.

DPT is an amazing substance. Iv heard people say that DPT picks up where LSD left off and completely agree. In my eyes DPT is the defintion of entheogen (although i have never tried ayahuasca, which i imagine will play that role quite well.)
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone.

treefingers: The nature of DPT definately played a role in this positive experience. I wish I could say if some type of personal change might have also been involved (I'm uncertain, but can't rule it out). Regarding my past uncomfortable experiences, they were sometimes due to an abuse on my part of the drug in question, but were typically a 'fear and recoil' type of mindstate that I had developed once the trip had begun.

I guess PM me if you're interested in further discussion.
 
I found DPT when insufflated to be a very weak trip. I wonld compare it to a low dose of lsd visually with a slight bit of empathy thrown in. It was not speedy at all and felt a bit sedating. I snorted 50mg and the experience was not spiritual at all so I did not yet see the enthogenic properties of DPT. It lasted about an hour and me and my friend just sat back and listened to some music. IMO smoking is definitely the way to go with this substance. I had 90mg left of dtp hcl so I loaded it in a base pipe and smoked it. To my surprise it hit me as hardas a big bowl of DMT and it hit me even faster than DMT. It was very similar to DPT without any distracting entities. With the eyes closed I saw ever changing kalidescopic images of various colors. There was lots of green yellow purple red and blue exploding all around me and coming at me t hyperspeed. It definitely scared the shit out of me and the body sensations were a bit pushy and uncomftorable. So it is in my opinion that smoking is the way to go or maybe even IM. snorting definitely seemed like a waste to me. Hopefully next time I can get some dtp freebase and take a fat rip of that. Surely the smoke is not as harsh this way.
 
although DPT is quite intense it never produced the fear that i get with things like mushrooms

My sentiments exactly. compared with the 4-OH and 5-MeO tryptamines I've experienced, DPT has a lot less anxiety to reach the same place (and that's comparing IM DPT with oral psilocybin/orally active 4-OH/5-MeO tryptamines).
Never gone over 30mg IM though (and don't really feel the urge to go either)
 
I'll definitely have to give this one a try. Great report!

BTW, I used to measure out my stuff at work too, but after many paranoid measurements, I finally decided to stop being cheap and just buy a scale. It's quite a bit less stressful than worrying that my boss might stop in and inquire as to what I am working on at any moment.
 
A question... I figured this thread was the best place to post considering no one else is discussing DPT right now anywhere.

So assume, hypothetically of course, that a friend of a friend's dog's uncle has exactly 15mg of DPT freebase (not HCl). Is that enough for that person or animal to get any appreciable effects from it by any method of administration? Smoking is the purpose of the freebase, I understand. Any ideas? Sorry to bogart this thread, but the question is burning me and needs asking.
 
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