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Downloadable Blueprints for a 3D-Printed (Plastic) Gun: What to do?

invegauser said:
less is more sometimes.

w01fg4ng i agree with a lot on not paying attention to the media, it keeps a person sane today. (grinds my gears about those bright, plastic tipped toy guns.)

what i agree with you on Jess is plastic guns becoming widespread use in mass shootings is unlikely today. it is possible to create a very nearly perfect simulation of one but unlikely due to lack of access and info. the mass production of them and wide spread use wont be for a long time... hopefully not ever.
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Plastic guns as we use the word plastic today will never be a problem because of physics.

But, as I said earlier today, the technology to "3d print" real, deadly, metal guns has existed for a long time and is pretty widely available. It's just called a CNC machine.

The reason home made guns has never been a significant problem is because, well, it's just not that hard for criminals to get guns to start with. Even in countries with strong gun laws, criminals can still easily get ahold of guns.

And as for mass shootings, your common criminal isn't the same person as your mass shooters. School mass shooters largely get their guns from a parent or family member or someone close to the family. Also they want to kill a lot of people which means they need a reliable weapon, which rules out most poorly built home made firearms.

And no matter how you get the gun, you still have to find a way to get the bullets. You'll never be able to 3d print the ammo with any technology remotely like what we're talking about today.

Simply put, if you can get ahold of the ammo, odds are you can probably get ahold of the gun too.

Theres just not a problem to worry about here. The reality simply doesn't match up with how people imagine it.

Which is great news! 3d printing is an amazingly useful technology, so it's great that it also poses no real risks to society. Say you have a dish washer or something. Some appliance. And it breaks. Wouldn't you love to live in a world where you can just go online, find the replacement part, and print it out and fix it right there and then? Cause it's coming. It's just that like every great technological advancement. There are naysayers and fear mongers and ignorant people trying to hold back progress. But they will fail. As they have every time without exception since the dawn of civilization. With future generations looking back on them and wondering how people could have been so backward in the past.
 
hell yeah. think everyone would like to, if not know someone who could whip up spare parts like that.

good point in ending. moral dilemma for another thread. maybe too many hugs and not enough cheeseburgers growing up - spare the spoil, child the rod.

now if only we had a chemist weighing in on this.
 
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It's nice that legal items such as washing machine parts will be available to print in our great future but how could anyone possibly be interested in printing a gun.

Baffling.
 
w01fg4ng said:
It's nice that legal items such as washing machine parts will be available to print in our great future but how could anyone possibly be interested in printing a gun.

Baffling.
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Why are people interested in guns at all? Why are people interested in stamp collecting or trains. I dunno, but they are. People are interested in what they're interested in.

But, if you were into guns, and also into new tech like 3d printers, I can see why you might be interested in seeing how the two can be combined. I don't find that part baffling at all.

A lot of people find what drug addicts do baffling. People can be pretty diverse in what they do and why they do it.
 
A wise tech person once said that the computer was built for two things:. To play games and to fight war.

But washing machines are cool too
 
Tbph, I have known women from a lot of walks of life, and the majority of the ones I know that like porn wear really low-cut tops everywhere and, if around guys they are into, do shots while talking loudly about HOW MUCH THEY LIKE PORN.

(I have tried to explain that the top will do it, but they never listen. It's overkill, imo.)

So I'm going to guess that no more than 60% of the world likes porn. Generously. Everything else I have to add is grossly inappropriate.

OT: I think the legal system will weigh in on the blueprints and ban them like Trump does Muslims (except rich ones), because I'm guessing a lot of judges are concerned about someone getting a "gun" through a metal detector.

I'm not trying to give ideas, but everyone in prison except baby immigrants and asylum seekers has seen a judge, and they didn't like the outcome. And I'm guessing the innocent people are just as angry as the guilty ones.

Watch for it. ;)
 
Just like jessFR said , this is not a new concept. Any good machinist can CNC a gun . I'd be willing to bet , unless its space age plastic, that the gun is a one time use thing. I may be wrong .I would think the user would have to reload and use weaker gun powder to lessen the pressure in the chamber . Gun barrels are twisted with lands and grooves to make the bullets spin to create stability during air flight . There is no way plastic can do this (too much pressure) . The spin created also make the bullet more destructive when entering flesh .
 
The blueprints won't be banned. The courts are very unlikely to allow such legislation. On 1st amendment grounds, 2nd amendment grounds, as well as all the reasons I have given, as well as the fact that even if you really COULD make a plastic gun like you suggest, the ammo still has to be metal. So a metal detector will still detect it.

You have been able to download gun schematics that someone with decent machining know how could turn into a very lethal weapon for a long time now. Long enough that it should have become a problem ages ago if it were ever gonna.

There have been plastic gun controversies in the past, all of them just as false as this one. They somehow managed to miss the obvious that a plastic gun still requires metal bullets and so can't evade a metal detector too. Nothing has ever wound up being banned and staying banned as a result. This is just history repeating itself. The media and members of the public spread fear and ignorance on the subject but ultimately nothing ends up happening.

Not that it even matters because even if they banned them it would change nothing.

F.U.B.A.R. said:
So shit guns aren't an issue..?




Guns are shit.


Shit guns are shitter...
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Just quickly on this point, sure, you should be able to specially design a plastic gun that fires a low caliber METAL bullet. It might even be fast enough to kill someone.

But since it fires once, at such a slow speed, with such a low caliber, and very inaccurately, it's probably less dangerous a weapon than your average steak knife. Certainly not dangerous enough to worry about.
 
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I'm not expecting anything to happen. It can't be effectively regulated, and any legitimate investigation will find that there's nothing to worry about for all the reasons I've previously given.

And well, we've had these kind of social arguments over and over again, always forgetting the next time something like this comes up. And every time technology continues to progress unhindered by nay sayers and fear mongers.
 
JessFR said:
It can't be effectively regulated, and any legitimate investigation will find that there's nothing to worry about for all the reasons I've previously given.
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Yeah but your reasons are aimed towards budding terrorist consisting of ways to kill cheaper.

What about all the people who don't care about your stupid pipe bombs?

Have you no sportsmanship?
 
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