Double patella rupture

[Genetic Freak]

Apologies for not quite being an advanced drug question.... I have ruptured both patella tendons in my legs (quadricep tendons have torn from both knee-caps)
What if any dietry modifications could be made to better assist tendon repair... IE: High protein diet, Glutamine..??
What if any drugs could assist the same process IE: HGH, IGF1-r3, Nandrolone dacanoate, chondroitin sulfate..?
Surgeon has been unhelpful and unable to advise on this matter...

Your thoughts pls...

 

[Microbiologist]

damn bro you busting some heavy squats or something? sorry to hear about your injury.

aside from experimental stem cell or cytokine gene therapies, a lot of the (non scientific literature) internet recommendations will border on pseudoscience. I trust your doc has prescribed strong anti-inflammatories, immobilisation and rest.

High protein diet is good for any muscle building (in this case collagen), you should get sufficient glutamine from this, glucosaminoglycan supplementation such as condroitin are utilised predominantly in cartilage rather than tendons but it would not hurt. I, some some literature indicates a type of condroitin - dermatan, is a component of tendons.

Hyaluronan, a non-sulfated glycosaminoglycan demonstrated beneficial effects in the first 3 weeks of tendon-bone reattachment in rabbits, however it was injected directly into the bone hollow: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749806305011837 poor bunnies.

Another study, again in rabbits, shows no effect of condroitan or hyaluronic acid on healing http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jor.1100070508/abstract

Nandrolone has experimental evidence (again, rabbits, your go-to tendon repair model) that it is actually detrimental to healing http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/08941939.2010.481007

I would stay away from exogenous growth hormone supplementation, let your body take care of that intricate balance, it knows what its doing. Stick with immobilisation, lots of rest, RICE and later on rehabilitation exercises recommended by your physiotherapist. Wish you a speedy recovery and if anything further occurs to me will be sure to let you know.

 

[Epsilon Alpha]

Not really ADD, but I'll let it go for now seeing as there's no better place for it.
Can't really add much aside from "HOLY FUCK HOW DID THAT HAPPEN" and suggesting going for brief swims in a cold pool to get some strength back in your legs after they've healed up enough.

 

[Genetic Freak]

Not really ADD, but I'll let it go for know seeing as there's no better place for it.
Can't really add much aside from "HOLY FUCK HOW DID THAT HAPPEN" and suggesting going for brief swims in a cold pool to get some strength back in your legs after they've healed up enough.

Three Surgeons seemed unable to offer any advice so thought I'd put it on here.. Thanks for letting it go...!!

I was in the wrong/right place when a colleague fell backwards from the top of our fire engine, I took his weight but both patella tendons detached in the process.....

 

[Venrak]

I don't have any advice to offer, but damn man, I hope you heal soon. That sounds really painful. Good on you for catching him though.

 

[Genetic Freak]

I don't have any advice to offer, but damn man, I hope you heal soon. That sounds really painful. Good on you for catching him though.

Yeh.. Wheel-chairs suck..!!!

 

[Epsilon Alpha]

Well, hopefully you make a full recovery. I wish we could offer some sort of solid advice, but all I can do is suggest hydrotherapy once you've healed enough for it. It worked wonders for my dad and a few of my friends following similar knee injuries.

 

[sekio]

Gentle to moderate physical therapy in general is probably the way to go.

I would avoid steroid anti-inflammatories and try to stick to e.g. ibuprofen for pain/inflammation control.

 

[Poodles!]

damn bro you busting some heavy squats or something? sorry to hear about your injury.

aside from experimental stem cell or cytokine gene therapies, a lot of the (non scientific literature) internet recommendations will border on pseudoscience. I trust your doc has prescribed strong anti-inflammatories, immobilisation and rest.

High protein diet is good for any muscle building (in this case collagen), you should get sufficient glutamine from this, glucosaminoglycan supplementation such as condroitin are utilised predominantly in cartilage rather than tendons but it would not hurt. I, some some literature indicates a type of condroitin - dermatan, is a component of tendons.

Hyaluronan, a non-sulfated glycosaminoglycan demonstrated beneficial effects in the first 3 weeks of tendon-bone reattachment in rabbits, however it was injected directly into the bone hollow: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749806305011837 poor bunnies.

Another study, again in rabbits, shows no effect of condroitan or hyaluronic acid on healing http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jor.1100070508/abstract

Nandrolone has experimental evidence (again, rabbits, your go-to tendon repair model) that it is actually detrimental to healing http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.3109/08941939.2010.481007

I would stay away from exogenous growth hormone supplementation, let your body take care of that intricate balance, it knows what its doing. Stick with immobilisation, lots of rest, RICE and later on rehabilitation exercises recommended by your physiotherapist. Wish you a speedy recovery and if anything further occurs to me will be sure to let you know.

This is a great post for a single digit greenlighter!

Please, feel free to stick around, have a cup tea and put your feet up. It's nice to see new members that can offer some top quality informed advice and opinions.

I don't actually have anything to add to this thread, but I'm in a good mood and this made me do a little woo.


Oh, and I wish you speedy recovery OP!