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GumbyClaymation

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I'm going to be getting a gram of MDMA soon. I have a marquis test kit and a mg scale. I have a history of being a "hardhead" with substances to the point where typical doses have little to no effect on me.

I was thinking about taking 150mg on an empty stomach and seeing where I go. At the 90 minute mark, I'll have up to 100mg available to insufflate. Of course I would take none or only a portion of it if I'm already feeling good.

My concern is that I've read that boosters at that time only increase the experience in length, not take you higher. I don't think I should take a booster earlier than 90 minutes because of the risk that I'd boost just before the effects of the bombed amount started to come on in case I'm one of those that takes a full 90 minutes to come up.

In that case, should I just take the 150 and stop there if it's not going anywhere?

In either case, I take it I need to wait a month for the next experiment, even if I feel very little from the first try. Is that right?

Thanks for any thoughts on the matter.
 
There is little chance of it taking 90 minutes if you're doing it on an empty stomach mate. Check the Six Simple Rules thread for dosage and re-dose just as you feel its starting to kick in.
 
I've read Six Simple Rules. My concern is not about how to maximize the effects when I already know what my dose should be. My concern is about getting the dose right in the minimum amount of trials. I know that I will LIKELY not take 90 minutes to come up.

My concern is that my dose requirements are usually higher than typical with almost every substance I've tried. That doesn't mean that I will abandon caution.

I don't want to take a starter dose and then at 45 minutes feel nothing and figure I probably didn't take enough and take a booster just to have both hit at once.

If I wasn't clear, I'm not trying to extend the experience duration. If I knew exactly how much was the right amount for ME to take I'd just take the whole amount orally in one shot.

I have a feeling that it's very likely that I will take 150mg and feel absolutely nothing or very little. I am just trying to figure out where to go from there while avoiding wasting material and months of time in the process.
 
GumbyClaymation said:
I've read Six Simple Rules. My concern is not about how to maximize the effects when I already know what my dose should be. My concern is about getting the dose right in the minimum amount of trials. I know that I will LIKELY not take 90 minutes to come up.

My concern is that my dose requirements are usually higher than typical with almost every substance I've tried. That doesn't mean that I will abandon caution.

I don't want to take a starter dose and then at 45 minutes feel nothing and figure I probably didn't take enough and take a booster just to have both hit at once.

If I wasn't clear, I'm not trying to extend the experience duration. If I knew exactly how much was the right amount for ME to take I'd just take the whole amount orally in one shot.

I have a feeling that it's very likely that I will take 150mg and feel absolutely nothing or very little. I am just trying to figure out where to go from there while avoiding wasting material and months of time in the process.
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I'm not going to speculate on ANYTHING, you tell me you cant feel 150mg I'm just going to accept that because you know yourself better than anyone. If you're that unaffected by MDMA I very much doubt a +/- 50mg to 200mg would be overwhelming. So why not just do that?

I think it'll put you on your arse myself. 150mg should be fine, if you dont feel it in 30-45 minutes take another 100mg and see what happens. If you dont feel anything from a quarter gram if an empty stomach MDMA is not for you.
 
Just so you know, I tend to do 150-200mg bomb plus a 50mg insuffulated to start because I like being off my face and I'm 6ft4, and about 200lb. Snorting it hits you quicker and the bomb kicks you in the nuts about 45 minutes later.

If you're new to MDMA I don't think you should bring your prejudiced view in terms of dosage for other drugs into it. There are few other drugs like it in terms of tolerance, effects to dosage etc.
 
I've tried "MDMA" before and not gotten much effect while other people claimed stuff from the same batch was good. This time, I at least have a test kit, although I know that will only give me qualitative results, rather than something quantifiable.

You seem to have good advice. Have you heard of people not being affected by a quarter gram, or are you just throwing that out there as a ridiculous scenario?
 
If you've only done it once before I think it's dangerous to say "this much will not affect me from now on"... Anything could of happened; not being in a great mood, having a full stomach, using too much rizzla for the bombs - anything. I would start off at 150 mate assuming the test is all clear; it's good you seem to understand the basics of MDMA including how testing works already.

I have taken 3 double wrapped (two leaf of Rizzla) bombs before coming up at a rave before. I had a steak dinner before I left, and I still never really got where I wanted to be. Sometimes you just dont get as messy as you want, it happens. Happened to me on NYE in fact.

Sometimes when you're new to MDMA it's hard to grasp the experience, I would definitely suggest a small insuffulation along with the bomb to ease you in. Once you know its kicking in its easier to allow the drug to take over. My mates get it with acid, stop thinking about wanting to come up and just keep yourself busy. It will happen when it happens :D
 
If you have 150mg of real pure MDMA, that will be a plenty high dose. You can always take more, but you can't take less. Re-dosing doesn't necessarily increase the intensity of the experience, but it should at least bump up the experience a bit.


Just because you are a "hard head" to other substance does NOT mean you should be bombing 250mg of MDMA at once or anything however, tolerance to alcohol or weed does NOT translate into tolerance for MDMA. I strongly recommend you stick to 150mg for the first dose. If it is of high quality, it should be more than enough. If you REALLY want to push things I couldn't recommend over 180mg (one Dutch supe-strength pill) but even that would be rather reckless.

If you haven't tried this current batch, it's always best to start low and work your way up. Even if the reagents test positive for MDMA, it's always impossible to know REALLY what's in there



Take 150mg and another 100mg 30-45 minutes later... and I would NOT snort it either. Either sublingual or anal administration if you want it to hit faster (both RoAs are almost exactly similar to snorted MDMA, but are MUCH more effective and less wasteful), but from my experience and many others, snorted MDMA leads to a very short and speedy experience. Not the long, floored the fuck out roll we all love filled with empathy and love..
 
On an empty stomach, I took 75mg bomb, then about 15 minutes later 75 mg sublingually. At T+45 minutes, I really wasn't feeling anything, so I snorted 100mg. After that I felt a little something, but just a little. I don't know how to properly scale feelings, but I would I would imagine it was merely threshold. I posted a separate thread in pill testing - I think the stuff is correct.
Again, I don't know how to quantify the experience, but it was so slight - I'd seriously be about as satisfied going down a slide at a playground, hearing a good joke, or taking a nap. All horrible comparisons, but I really don't know what to say.

Should I wait a month and try half a gram or just flush it and give up?
 
^ Sounds like you got some extremely cut product. Get some better gear and try again.. or get the same shit, and so an ISO/Acetone wash on it to remove any inert cuts. It won't remove other drugs, but should get rid of anything like flour or sugar that's cutting it down.



Read through here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/542471-Mega-Dosage-mega-thread

That's where this should have been posted anyway.
 
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