let's be real, most of those people were already hopelessly addicted to kratom
That's going to suck if it means they clamp down on regular kratom. 7s do sound interesting, maybe I'll get some, but I'm pretty happy with regular kratom and will really bummed to see it go
People were teaspooning their way to like 140 mg dosages of a chemical with almost no history of use besides as a metabolite of mitragynine. It’s been absolutely insane. I mean everybody talks about can’t wait to see this used for pain management in the pharma world but just a perusal of the debut would say the addiction potential on this stuff is insane. I know personally I struggle to not redose that evening or the next morning. Getting off of it was insane and I had dosed like a max three three packs over three days. It had a psychological hold on me hard. Definitely enhanced the depression aspect of kicking but I thought maybe the physical symptoms were shorter. I was trying to bounce off of kratom with it.
Yea a while ago I had a batch of the W’s & I was up all night just like I was on stimulants or something.
For sure, I like stimulating opioids too. Thats why I was super into Roxy’s when I used to be able to get them years ago. Roxicodone would give me a kick
is this being sold in head shops or otc since it sounds like an extract of Kratom? Wonder if its what they put in those MIT-45 shots. those fuckers are strong but expensive. I used to get a great long lasting buzz from them but it sky rocketed and now i only use them coming off oxy or dilly to avoid the WD's which it does a fantastic job at reducing. They are not cheap but nor are any of the opiates we all use these days.
thank you. I dont know if youd know this but is this whats in the MIT shots that feels so much differnet than any kratom extract Ive come across? I know it has to be something because I can use those shots coming off a pretty high mg daily dose of oxy or dilaudid and it kills the WD's pretty signifacntly. I can also say those shots make your tolerance climb crazy fast and the cravings are pretty strong. I really liked them originally when first starting. They lasted a very long time and had a very smooth euphoric feeling. Then when your tolerance climbs the euphoria goes and they dont have the same kick. You cant just keep upping your dose or I atleast end up sick as shit from too much KIratom. The distorted blurry vision feels awful coupled w the nause.
It would work bro but I’m telling you now; it’s fucking expensive, and the compulsion to use is insane. 7oh is really fucking expensive and really fucking addictive. The euphoria is so potent. The withdrawal is fucking gnarly. I kicked have used 6 14
If you had this experience with just kratom shots I can pretty
This stuff is going to get banned, plain and simple.
I absolutely did. I’ve been watching this. It’s a unique situation to have a novel drug with a unique mechanism of action be introduced to a group of relatively stable drug users. I think it speaks to the fentanyl crisis that perhaps just letting people use opium would likewise lead to far less fentanyl deaths. The stronger a substance the less a person is able to control the behaviors surrounding acquisition. Free access to plant based drugs and awareness surrounding stronger ones can really help people to make healthy choices. If an opium user knows that heroin addiction is fuvjed they’re probably going to stick to opium and if a kratom user knew that 7oh would throw them into active addiction I wonder how many people might have tried it for the novelty but been aware that continued use would lead to dependency. The whole community was caught unawares.
7OH is available in many smoke shops and will be in many more soon.
