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Dose on MDPV

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what's the final verdict on a good, not over the top, first time dose on MDPV for 100 kg man? no tolerance to any RC's or amphetamine currently
 
For oral no more than 10mg's........if you will be snorting it up the 'ol noggin I would say 5mg or less. Make sure and give it time to hit you before redosing as even overdoing it a little bit can be a terrible mistake.
 
Thanks that's about what I figured...it will be oral in a gelcap fyi. does it cause bruxism or pupilary dialation?
 
Yes bruxism if you get to a certain level with it. The euphoria can be nice, great even, but do not chase it too long.........my rule of thumb with pv is that I can't sleep until 4 hours after my last dose. Dosing sleeping medication while you are still "wired" is not safe on any level.
 
I did a small amount of MDPV at 6:30am. I'd guesstimate 7-10mg, probably less - the amount that stuck to the bottom of a dry tweezer dipped into the bag. (Given the conversions I've seen, that would be equal to around 20-40mg of Ritalin, which is not an unreasonable dosage for an adult weighing 90kg/200lbs).

I placed this powder in my morning coffee: I then put the bag away. I had a second cup of coffee (just coffee, no MDPV) at about 9:00am. As of 10:39am I am still feeling noticeable stimulation and improved concentration. So it's definitely active in small amounts.

(HR note: eyeballing doses is generally not a good idea. While MDPV is not as potent per mg. as fentanyl or phenazepam, it's still better to use a scale. Do as I say, not as I do, etc... ).

At this point I am back at baseline, although still feeling quite alert. The comedown from low doses appears to be pretty smooth. But it definitely packed a nice punch for the first hour: if I had started chasing that at 60-minute intervals, I think this story could have ended much differently.
 
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MDPV is very moreish so take your time with it and realize your limits. Negative effects greatly increase as the dose increases. First time i tried pv it was mixed with mephedrone about a 50/50 ratio. Not on purpose my friend mixed bags on accident. After doing about 500mg of the mix i felt like i was going to have a heart attack. But another time i tried 20mg nasally and had a good euphoric experience.
 
great information otherside and kenaz... since this is pretty basic dosing stuff I'm going to send this over to BDD.


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One thing I noticed about MDPV is that the euphoric, intense part of the experience fades in a couple hours but the stimulating after-effects stick around for a while. I will remain unusually alert and awake for a good 8-9 hours after taking a small dose. And, frankly, I wouldn't take any amount of MDPV if I wanted to sleep within the next 12 hours.

I wonder if this isn't one reason so many people get in trouble with this stuff: there's a lot going on after the immediate blast-o'-joy fades away, but it's much more subtle. And so they keep redosing and building up the MDPV levels in their blood until it's three days later and they've got sleep dep psychosis and raging tachycardia.
 
Kenaz said:
One thing I noticed about MDPV is that the euphoric, intense part of the experience fades in a couple hours but the stimulating after-effects stick around for a while.
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Yes, this is very true. In fact, I've said almost the same thing in another thread before, and I've seen similar opinions expressed very widely. This is why re-dosing can cause such nerve-racking side effects, if you re-dose as the euphoria fades. The stimulation stacks, and stacks, and stacks.

I usually begin to feel an uncomfortable level of anxiety (and the need to chase that anxiety away with re-doses) at or around 15 - 20mg consumed without rest in between. Sometimes it comes sooner, sometimes later. Unfortunately, I feel that, once this line is crossed, the easiest and most tempting way to subside the new found anxiety (temporarily, of course) is to re-dose, there by initiating the cycle.

A good motivation to stop is thinking about whether you wish to obtain sleep the coming night / morning.. If you do, try to plan that at LEAST 6 hours after your last dose getting to sleep will be very difficult.
 
ektamine said:
Yes, this is very true. In fact, I've said almost the same thing in another thread before, and I've seen similar opinions expressed very widely. This is why re-dosing can cause such nerve-racking side effects, if you re-dose as the euphoria fades. The stimulation stacks, and stacks, and stacks.

I usually begin to feel an uncomfortable level of anxiety (and the need to chase that anxiety away with re-doses) at or around 15 - 20mg consumed without rest in between. Sometimes it comes sooner, sometimes later. Unfortunately, I feel that, once this line is crossed, the easiest and most tempting way to subside the new found anxiety (temporarily, of course) is to re-dose, there by initiating the cycle.

A good motivation to stop is thinking about whether you wish to obtain sleep the coming night / morning.. If you do, try to plan that at LEAST 6 hours after your last dose getting to sleep will be very difficult.
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I do not find stimulants nearly so recreational as opiates. For me stims are a tool which I use to fulfill a desired task: they wake me up in the morning, help me concentrate on a project I need to finish, etc. So I don't know if I am as prone to MDPV-fiending as people who get more pleasure out of speedy drugs.

For me this stuff is a marvelous, long-lasting pick-me-up. I am actually impressed by how benign it is. Based on what I've experienced and read in other trip reports, it appears an active dose may be 2mg or even less. Yet people report using 500mg and more in a night without dying. (Granted, they describe some pretty unpleasant side effects -- but if they took 250x an active dosage of diacetylmorphine or methamphetamine I suspect the results would have been far worse).
 
theotherside26 said:
Yeah I put a lil bit in my coffee this morning as well :) In doses less than 2mg's you can feel added help at work for up to 2 hours, which is great for hangover days like today.
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:\ Agreed compadre. I've been known to do the same. And with regard to the original dosage question, I'd have posted the same. Though for the intent of Harm Reduction {smirk} I'd have also suggested half of the starting dose and ramping up by ~1.5mg (+/- 0.01) every 45-60mins.

Then again, I'm guessing not everyone has a Mettler accurate to +/- 0.1MG =D

Alternatively, (and if at-hand), insufflate 10-20mg methylphenidate (MPH aka Ritalin) at MDPV peak. A close enough equivalent to MPH would work too. Personally I like MPH (or similar) boosters after the MPDV dose to completely avoid the urge to redose MDPV too quickly.

I'm guessing that the MDPV is all that's at hand for the gentleman that asked {grin}.
 
5mg nasal.
Poorly MDPV is not that usable for everyday life.. that much sweating, would feel unconfortable so.
 
Forgot to add that I agree that good opes are GREAT for that speedball or "balance."

Oddly opes by themselves never managed to get me by the stones--how I couldn't say. Even diacetyl-M ---- 8)

But stims and opes together. Well let's just say my catecholamines are very happy.

I've binged similarly on the MDPV the first time. Quickly learned it's definitely a question of balance.
 
Please be carefull with MDPV.................it takes NO prisoners.

Worst trip of my life...................did about 400mg
 
Hard to get. bradford/leeds

;)does anyone have some mdpv they are wanting toget rid off.i can take it of your hands to be incinerated ;)know wat i mean.
 
dinomax said:
Please be carefull with MDPV.................it takes NO prisoners.

Worst trip of my life...................did about 400mg
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You took 200x what most people find a light/threshold dose, and 20x what I would consider a good recreational dose. While I am glad you survived your adventure, I'm not surprised it was a rough experience. Just because something is legal and cheap (or was at the time: IIRC, MDPV is now banned on the other side of the Big Pond) doesn't mean it shouldn't be used with caution.
 
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