dosage of MDMA for a light weight :P

[glittergal7]

i got a hold of some good quality MDMA that i haven't tried yet. it has been tested by a kit and tests as MDMA. multiple friends have tried it and they all confirm it does seem to be the real deal but much stronger.

normally we get powder that is already put into capsules which goes through multiple middle men. this time we got it as rocks in a bag from a person who claims that they got it from the manufacturer directlu (we had to buy a large quantity to even get it). basically, this stuff is stronger than anything my friends tried in the past and everyone claims that this is because it is more pure/less cut. so even though i have a history of MDMA use, i am not sure how much to take of this new stuff.

we bought a scale to measure out doses. we never measured out dosages in the past - just took 1 capsule or whatever. how many mg usually fill up one capsule?

i was wondering how much i should take (mg wise) considering 1.) im a petite female (110 lb) who doesnt do MDMA often at all (or drugs/alcohol much for that matter) and 2.) i'm pretty much a light weight when it comes to drugs because i like to be a little bit fucked up but not completely disoriented. (i guess everybody has a preference for how they like to feel and i feel more comfortable "feeling nice" but not rolling balls)

last time i did MDMA, i took a 1 capsule and i was okay. a little annoyed by some nausea/GI discomfort and anxiety on the come up and some major teeth grinding later.. and my crash sucked - i was depressed for a few days and had some major body aches (probably from so much dancing). but otherwise all was good. i should mention i didnt preload or postload last time. this time i intend on using 5HTP after wards. should i take magnesium before hand for the teeth grinding? anybody have any experience with that? and tips to prevent the nausea and abdominal discomfort on the come up?

this time around i am planning on taking this new MDMA we got but unfortunately i have work the next day at noon so i REALLY want to make sure i don't take too much (i work 12 hour shifts). how much do you think is a good dose for someone small like me who isnt looking to get completely hammered?

i asked my friend (same size as me) who tried the new MDMA that we have and she said she took a first dose which was about a quarter of how much would fill up a capsule (she doesnt have a scale), then a few dips (i dont even know what that means?) and a second dose few hours later which was a little less than half a capsule split between 3 people. she said the second dose was too much and pushed her over the edge and made the roll too intense. this friend of mine normally can tolerate much more MDMA and drugs than me and does more often than I do- the last time when i took 1 capsule of MDMA, she took 2 capsules and probably handled it better than me.

thanks for the help, :D

 

[laugh]

lucky you.

i would suggest 1 point, that is 100mg. dose, wait an hour to see how your travelling, and take another bump or two if you feel the need. if it is quality 1 point should get you going and give you a

 

[glittergal7]

I read somewhere that a dosage is 1.5 mg to 1.7 mg per kg. I weigh around 54kg.. so that would make 81-92mg? Does that refer to pure MDMA?

The molly capsule I took last time is similar in size to my 5HTP capsules I just noticed. I used my scale to measure the 5HTP capsule which includes the 5HTP powder inside and other stuff.. My scale is accurate to .001 gram. The bottle of 5HTP says it is 100mg 5HTP, 5mg of Niacin, 5mg of Vit B6, 25mg Magnesium, 50mg Valerian (185mg of active ingredients) and then there are some other ingredients. The scale reads 0.439 grams..or ~439mg.

.. So does that mean that capsules filled with "molly" sold on the street are around 400mg?? Has anyone ever weighed their capsule? Obviously it is not pure MDMA so the 400mg would include the other junk but I guess if it weighs 400mg and it is 35% pure MDMA by weight, that would be 140mg of MDMA. Which seems plausible I suppose.

I'm pretty confused about how much I should weight out of the MDMA I have. I tried to "estimate" how many mg my friend took the other night. A quarter of a capsule first dose (if a capsule full is 400mg) would be 100mg.. then she did a few dips (not sure how much that would equal) and a second dose (which pushed her a little over the edge/was too much) of half a capsule (200mg) split between 3 people (67mg each) sounds like about 200mg (total over the night) of the MDMA crystals which they crushed. Theoretically, if the approx 200mg dosage was a little too much then I guess what we have is most likely very pure..

Our source claims that this stuff is 84% pure MDMA. I don't know how he came up with this number or if it's accurate.. but if it is then 100mg of the crystal/powder stuff should have 84mg of MDMA. So would it be safe to say I should take 100mg in one dose or would you guys take less or more than that?

 

[laugh]

i stand by my earlier comment. it is good to know you are reading up on the details though. if you have an accurate scale measure out 100mg and start with that. after an hour assess how you are feeling and respond accordingly. have fun.

I'm pretty confused about how much I should weight out of the MDMA I have. I tried to "estimate" how many mg my friend took the other night. A quarter of a capsule first dose (if a capsule full is 400mg) would be 100mg.. then she did a few dips

pretty sure thats what i am suggesting?

 

[glittergal7]

i stand by my earlier comment. it is good to know you are reading up on the details though. if you have an accurate scale measure out 100mg and start with that. after an hour assess how you are feeling and respond accordingly. have fun.

pretty sure thats what i am suggesting?

sorry i think i was typing my reply while you posted yours so i missed it but thank u very much! think i will try 100mg then

 

[JWills20]

I disagree with laugh, I believe 100mg is too much for someone of your size and intentions. 100mg is commonly thrown around like a 'blanket' starter dose for anyone. Like you stated 1.5mg/kg is less than 100mg and I find 1.5mg/kg to be pretty intense using uncut, crystal MDMA. I weigh 80kg, so I dosed 120mg and I enjoyed the peak incredibly but my god was it fucking intense. Since you're not looking for an intense experience i'd lower your dose toward 70mg as you're small - uncut MDMA will hit you like a train, don't underestimate it based on your previous experiences. I'd also like to note that 120mg gave me my only ever hangover which lasted 1 day. If you were to experience the hangover, work may not be quite as pleasant

I'd say 70mg, if you're underwhelmed you can always take more and it will work, but learn from your friend that it is easy to push it 'over the edge' with uncut MDMA.

Best of luck.

 

[Diloadid]

I think 70mg of MDMA would be a slight waste of good MDMA.
I would go a tad bit higher. 90 at the least.
70mg of MDMA would be a tease for anybody. It might make the compulsion to continually redose greater.

 

[fleea]

Go steady, if you end up having a little less than what would be you're sweet spot so what?There's always next time. Get together, buy more while it's good and stash it.

 

[JWills20]

I think 70mg of MDMA would be a slight waste of good MDMA.
I would go a tad bit higher. 90 at the least.
70mg of MDMA would be a tease for anybody. It might make the compulsion to continually redose greater.

I disagree with this, the threshold for MDMA is approximately 30mg (as indicated by Erowid). The OP is a small female and states that she is a 'lightweight'. Shes a prime candidate for easily overdoing MDMA. Consider 81mg of MDMA to her to be like 120mg of MDMA for a 80kg male. Just because 70mg of MDMA might tease yourself, the circumstances suggest it would not tease the OP. If its uncut MDMA, i'd expect 70mg to provide the experience the OP is looking for - 'not too intense.'

 

[glittergal7]

I disagree with this, the threshold for MDMA is approximately 30mg (as indicated by Erowid). The OP is a small female and states that she is a 'lightweight'. Shes a prime candidate for easily overdoing MDMA. Consider 81mg of MDMA to her to be like 120mg of MDMA for a 80kg male. Just because 70mg of MDMA might tease yourself, the circumstances suggest it would not tease the OP. If its uncut MDMA, i'd expect 70mg to provide the experience the OP is looking for - 'not too intense.'

Thank you so much everyone for the feedback!! It's funny that somebody used the term "uncut MDMA will hit like a train" in a previous post because last night my friend described her experience as "an intense clean steady roll that lasted 5-6 hours and hit like a train" lol.

So i'm going to take others' recommendations and start out with 70mg instead of 100mg and see how it goes. I have a feeling that this will be enough because my friend's first dose was ~100mg and she had called me yelling about how she was rolling face and she didnt even take a lot.

 

[glittergal7]

I think 70mg of MDMA would be a slight waste of good MDMA.
I would go a tad bit higher. 90 at the least.
70mg of MDMA would be a tease for anybody. It might make the compulsion to continually redose greater.

I never have compulsions to redose. The ONLY time I have EVER been majorly disappointed by a drug was when I was sold methylone instead of MDMA and I took about 170-200mg (eyeballed it) of the powder (which was probably cut bc I know it was stepped on many times by various people). In this case, I had some good effects which were gone in about 2 hours which was a major disappointment given that I was expecting an MDMA roll. This instance I ended up leaving the event a little early and just sucked it up that I was in a bad mood bc 1.) i was crashing/coming down off methylone (not as bad as previous MDMA rolls) 2.) i was mad that what I got was obv not MDMA. But even then I had no desire to redose the methylone (which in all honesty was good, it was similar to MDMA, not as intense, and I had no GI upset on the come up.. but its very short lived) and even though we had another batch of molly capsules from another source, I wasn't the least bit attempted to try them either.

Go steady, if you end up having a little less than what would be you're sweet spot so what?There's always next time. Get together, buy more while it's good and stash it.

yeah i do have more opportunities in the future so its not a big deal if i dont have a huge amazing roll this time. plus in the future i wont have work the next day so it wont matter if im shot the day after. we do have a large quantity of this same MDMA to last a good while so im not that worrried about "wasting 70mg"... i looked at our bag of the mdma before and after my friends tried it and you can barely even tell that any was taken out.. and there was like three of my friends who each used ~200mg.

so yea my concern is more that I want to dose enough so I get the effects decently but i don't want to go overboard because im concerned about work the next day.

another question for u guys - when do u take your 5HTP? lets say im coming down and then i leave to go home.. can i take the 5HTP while im still in the car while im coming down? I always heard its bad to take 5HTP while u roll due to serotonin syndrome etc so I just want to make sure I take it at a proper time and not too soon to when i drop molly. i used 5 HTP in the past successfully- i took 100mg a few hours after i was sober already tho. but given that i have limited hours between when my roll will end and when i have to be at work i want to try to fit some sleep in there i also have xanax on hand in case of a bad roll (which i highly doubt but its awesome to know that the xanax is there just in case) and i usually take like 0.5 mg of xanax before sleep so ill probably take that with the 5HTP.

 

[laugh]

which was probably cut bc I know it was stepped on many times by various people

'stepped on' is the same as 'cut', they are both slang for the same thing.

so yea my concern is more that I want to dose enough so I get the effects decently but i don't want to go overboard because im concerned about work the next day.

if it as good as you say there should be no comedown and you should feel happy and refreshed the following day with a positive afterglow. you should be able to sleep very easily and well after you come down from MDMA. you should not need xanax to sleep after MDMA. you should not need to take 5htp.

remember mdma is a relatively SAFE drug. it is not a scary drug, nor a dangerous drug. the comedowns are not anywhere near as bad as people on here are suggesting, unless you are abusing the shit out of it, which you are not.

if i were you i would take a look over in the european mdma discussions, their is a lot less bs and fear being spread about mdma and it's effects. it will calm your mind and put you at ease, rather than all the fear your finding here.

100mg or 1 point is a low dose and you will probably want more bumps after the come up. would love to hear how you went if you could kindly report back with your experience of the night.

Shes a prime candidate for easily overdoing MDMA.

what exactly will happen if she overdoes it? her teeth will chatter for an hour, her eyes will wobble for an hour, she wont be able to stop telling everyone how much she loves them, she wont be able to stop dancing, kissing, and hugging, she wont be able to wipe the smile off her face, she will have beautiful waves of 'ecstasy' flowing through her..?

 

[glittergal7]

'stepped on' is the same as 'cut', they are both slang for the same thing.

if it as good as you say there should be no comedown and you should feel happy and refreshed the following day with a positive afterglow. you should be able to sleep very easily and well after you come down from MDMA. you should not need xanax to sleep after MDMA. you should not need to take 5htp.

remember mdma is a relatively SAFE drug. it is not a scary drug, nor a dangerous drug. the comedowns are not anywhere near as bad as people on here are suggesting, unless you are abusing the shit out of it, which you are not.

if i were you i would take a look over in the european mdma discussions, their is a lot less bs and fear being spread about mdma and it's effects. it will calm your mind and put you at ease, rather than all the fear your finding here.

100mg or 1 point is a low dose and you will probably want more bumps after the come up. would love to hear how you went if you could kindly report back with your experience of the night.

what exactly will happen if she overdoes it? her teeth will chatter for an hour, her eyes will wobble for an hour, she wont be able to stop telling everyone how much she loves them, she wont be able to stop dancing, kissing, and hugging, she wont be able to wipe the smile off her face, she will have beautiful waves of 'ecstasy' flowing through her..?

yea im aware that stepped on and cut are the same thing, i was just using the terms interchangeably.

thanks for your help. my friend did say that she slept just fine on it and didnt take any 5 htp or anything. normally our appetite is completely ruined for 2 days but this time she said she was able to eat just fine too so this stuff is obviously different.

i will report more on my experience. since my plans were to take 100mg on new years eve originally but some people are recommending 70mg - i decided i would do a small experimental trial tonight.. i just took 50mg 10 minutes ago and will see if i feel anything. then ill decide whether to take 70mg or 100mg tomorrow night depending on how i feel from 50mg. then probably wont touch the stuff until march.

 

[mattnotrik]

Youve probally just ruined it for tommorow night, if your planning on taking 70mg tommorow, taking 50mg is the wrong way about it, you probally wont even feel it tommorow.


You should have just started low then increased dose if you werent feeling it tommorow.....

 

[glittergal7]

Youve probally just ruined it for tommorow night, if your planning on taking 70mg tommorow, taking 50mg is the wrong way about it, you probally wont even feel it tommorow.


You should have just started low then increased dose if you werent feeling it tommorow.....

why did i ruin it?

i don't do mdma often.. at all.. or drugs or alcohol much at all either for that matter. i did mdma multiple times in the past - maybe 7-8 times separately? up till about 5 years ago. then i didnt use it at all until a few months back. since then i used mdma one time which went well. then i ended up with methylone once (which is the experience i talked about above), and nothing since then till tonight. i've never needed to take a larger dose to get the same effect or had an experience that wasnt "magical" except for the methylone night which was different in its own way. i know that you should usually give yourself approx 3 months between uses of MDMA to be on the safe side but the next time i plan to take mdma is at the end of March.

anyway, i wasn't trying to roll face tonight and again tomorrow. i just wanted to gauge the strength of the mdma that i have. i figured that if i take 50mg and i feel f*cked up then obviously this stuff is VERY strong but if i take 50mg and feel nothing, then i can obviously take more. the 50 mg i took didn't do that much. i did feel a come up.. then a plateau (which im still on now) but it was all VERY mild (but still nice). didn't have any negative effects at all. my HR went up maybe 10 points, eyes dilated just a little bit, and some mild twinges of nausea now and then but no teeth grinding at all. no speedy feeling. and i have a feeling i will sleep like a baby. i think taking twice what i took tonight tomorrow will be good.

i was going to take a 5htp tonight (to get some serotonin up) and some vitamin c and antioxidants, maybe like alpha lipoic acid and eat/drink some healthy stuff tonight and tomorrow during the day before dropping the 100mg tomorrow night. i know that mdma depletes the serotonin so in theory, mdma two nights in a row would mean that the second night there wont be as much serotonin left but i took such a mild dosage with very minimal effects tonight and im not looking to drop a major dosage tomorrow either, i think ill be okay?

 

[mattnotrik]

Well taking mdma the day after youve taken it is never the same, its never as good. Its fine for some people who dont notice a change but usually theres no where near as much empathy as much more speedyness, anyway you only took 50mg so it may not have taken any effect at all as its barely a threshold dose, what was it like? Id just go out and go with 120mg tommorow, then just redose if your not feeling it enough. Its not going to be 100% pure so it should be a good dose

 

[glittergal7]

i have another question .. what would be a good dosage for a 85kg male whos doing MDMA for the first time? he tried methylone once (not recently). took 1 capsule. said it felt nice but was short lived.

would 120mg be good to start out for him?

 

[laugh]

how old are you?

 

[StrutterGear]

Consult for "Six Simples Rules" thread for dosage guidelines.

 

[glittergal7]

Well taking mdma the day after youve taken it is never the same, its never as good. Its fine for some people who dont notice a change but usually theres no where near as much empathy as much more speedyness, anyway you only took 50mg so it may not have taken any effect at all as its barely a threshold dose, what was it like? Id just go out and go with 120mg tommorow, then just redose if your not feeling it enough. Its not going to be 100% pure so it should be a good dose

what was it like hmm well it definitely did have an affect on me, it was just very mild when compared to what ive taken in the past. everytime i did mdma i got an E pill of some sort or a capsule of powder and i always just took the full dosage of 1 pill or 1 capsule and didnt bother breaking stuff. and almost every time i actually felt like it was a little bit too much for me. the come ups were usually VERY intense and i would be shot the day after. but i never cared cuz i never had work the next day and usually had a few days actually to "recover". which is why this time im more concerned about my dosing cuz i have to go right back to work the day after (which blows but theres no way out of it). anyways its VERY refreshing to have the same very familiar sensations of MDMA in a milder form today. i didnt have ANY of the negative effects ive had in the past. like for example this one time the stuff i took jacked up my HR big time. i normally have a baseline HR around 90 or 100 and the last time I took MDMA i was up to 160 after the come up! when i was sitting still! my HR only went up maybe 10 pts today. i didnt have any teeth grinding. only mild nausea which was very minimal and only lasted a few seconds then went away on its own. i dont feel speedy at all.

many of my previous "mdma" experiences involved me feeling very active and talkative and i couldnt sit still once ive come up. i didnt have that at all this time. i feel laid back and chill and im happy and kinda just have this general sense of well being. also, i dont have any appetite but my bf was eating and i ate a cheddar pepper thing and it tasted awesome. definitely tasted way better than it tastes when im completely sober lol.

since this stuff was powder i wasnt really sure how to ingest it.. i ended up licking it right off the scale. that was almost 4 hours ago. i will update with how i feel later tonight since the MDMA effects i think last 5-6 hours at the most so im interested to see how it will be once the effects are completely gone.