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Harm Reduction Dope and coke

OLD.GREGGGGG

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I havent much experience with coke on its own or in combo with anything other than alcohol. Tonight i will be getting a half gram of coke and a couple bags of H. I was wondering if i should use the dope solely for the comedown or if i should use them together in moderation. Im not trying to Nod or anything. I just want a fun night.
Can i speedball without IV'ing anything. I dont like needles. I intend to snort everything haha.
 
okay, first a word from mister sensible: DOOOOONT DOOOO IT. seriously, it's probably the most addictive thing there is, certainly the most addictive thing i evertried and still my absolute favorite.
also important: do you have any opiate tolerance?

sure you can speedball without needles. is your smack powder and not black tar?
okay, if you're determined to do this, FIRST, cut a very small line of the skag. if you have no tolerance, i'm talking mickey mouse tiny. then snort halt of it and wait half an hour. if you feel slightly buzzed, like say after 10-20mg of hydrocodone, you'll have scored some decent gear. if you notice nothing - this happens often - then you probably have standard stuff.
finish off the line and wait a bit longer. if the 'low dose of painkillers' feeling sets in, at least you weren't ripped off. but even if you feel nothing, don't panic or go start shooting drug dealers (i know we all wanted to at some point). then, when you've more or less ascertained the quality of the skag, the fun can begin.
you can also OD on coke, although it is not half as dangerous as strong opiates.
mix two small lines of coke and h. if the dosis was right it'll probably feel better than any other drug you ever took. start low, you can always put more on top. when you can gauge the potency of the drugs, have a blast.
remember: these drugs are both very addictive, and i'd say combining them easily surpasses the addiction potential of one alone.
oh yeah. coke fades faster than h usually, so you can feel fine for an hour or two until the coke fades and only the h goes strong, this has led to OD.

also, this might ruin your life. like i said, i know of nothing more addictive. and this should be self-explanatory, but tailor the amount you consume directly to how strong the stuff is. and it's always better to snort a little more coke than h, it's comparatively less dangerous.
 
i have a relatively high opiate tolerance. I dont IV anything tho on my own and i havent IV'd in almost a year. I still use opiates frequently tho. I will do waht you said and start with small line to test each before i mix them together. Wahats it feel like im comparison to each drug on their own when sniffed together?
 
both drugs are amazing. both drugs together, if you have decent gear, is... well. words fail me. my oxy/coke speedball sessions were probably among the most beautiful times of my life.
also i'm glad that you know what you're dealing with. i just wrote this in another thread, but i once saw a guy completely lose it from three fucking milligram morphine. since then i'm very careful with recomennding people opiates. i probably shouldn't say this, but i think i would cut of one of my pinkies to speedball with you tonight.
 
Speedballing is a blissful experience, but for the sake of harm reduction don't do it. ;) Shit is bad all around, think about what you're putting your heart through when you do that. It isn't good. Regardless if you don't IV, it still isn't a good idea.
 
hah, i know the H. is decent stuff not even a whole bag gets me where i wanna be. I enjoy that feeling very much. I am less sure about the quality of the coke. if its even half decent i should have a good time, eh?
 
yeah, we all know drugs are bad, and running an upper and opiate through your system simultaneously is a bit stressful for the heart. but if his gear is halfway decent, not cut with anything too toxic and he doesn't overdo it, it's not as dangerous as what a lot of other people on this forum are (planning on) doing.
oh well, i still have some ethylphenidate. i'm not much of an upper person, but by god, this shit is fiendish.
 
Someone who is trying coke for the first time should NOT be incouraged to try both together.

I would reccomend saving the heroin for another night. Coke come downs are pretty damn quick. Would really be a waste. And as i said, i wouldn't encourage mixing them on your first night trying coke.

Use a benzo if you want to take anything after the coke!
 
this makes sense from a harm reduction standpoint, but from i gathered the OP was determined to speedball, so i tried to tell him the safest way i could come up with to do it. however i always found coke crashes far less soulcrushing than the one's from mdma or prolonged dex abuse. different strokes and all that.
 
xxxyyy said:
this makes sense from a harm reduction standpoint, but from i gathered the OP was determined to speedball, so i tried to tell him the safest way i could come up with to do it. however i always found coke crashes far less soulcrushing than the one's from mdma or prolonged dex abuse. different strokes and all that.
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Not bad crash from coke? Bad crash from MDMA??? At least we can agree on the dex.

OP, it's a great combo, I don't slam anything. You can get a ton of little rushes in one session. If you want to be really careful, snort the coke then wait a minute and smoke the dope. You can gauge how high it'll get you easier, and the rush is way better smoked than snorted (so I'm told, it's not snortable here but smoking is great). You'll have to worry more about doing too much H than coke if you're snorting both, but without alcohol you won't have a ton to worry about especially since you don't sound like you're trying to get fucked up.
 
just to throw out another educated guess, i have a long running problem with clinical depression so maybe my brain reacted worse to the serotonin depletion than yours. a coke crash is certainly no picnic either, but i'd usual feel just lethargic and slightly depressed, versus couple of days after mdma where the only thought in my head was how to off myself in the fastest and least painful method. i never did it off course, but when i was regularly taking mdma i refused to roll without at least a bar or two of strong benzos or maybe some codeine and tilidine and hand. off course back then i didn't know that didn't know that the brunt of the depression can at least be noticable blunted with taking an ssri once or twice along with lots of shit like 5HTP, l-tryptophan and melanin.
 
Heroin and cocaine together is the best you will ever feel in your life. Once you know, everything, and I mean everything in life seems pale in comparison. It is the most addictive combination of drugs in existence, in my experience and everyone else's. Once you know how good it is you will want to feel like that all the time.

It took me a long time to forget about it, as I also quit dope shortly thereafter but continued to use opiates heavily for two more years, and where before the opiates were all I needed in the world to be content, I then felt and still feel when I occasionally indulge in hydro/oxy as if something was missing; like I only had half of what I really wanted.

After mixing the two, you'll never enjoy each one seperately again. Or at least it makes it difficult, and really makes enjoying any drug(s) more difficult.
 
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Someone who is trying coke for the first time should NOT be incouraged to try both together.
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Totally agree. Try the cocaine on it's own the first time if you've never tried it before. You don't even know how your body will react to it yet. It makes it more dangerous if you do the coke and heroin together and it's easy to do too much of one of the drugs because they can counteract some of the effects, so you don't really notice the bad effects until the other drug starts to wear off. I have seen people die this way.

xxxyyy said:
i always found coke crashes far less soulcrushing than the one's from mdma or prolonged dex abuse. different strokes and all that.
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Definitely must be different strokes, for me coke has the worst comedown of any drugs I've tried and the worst mental cravings. If it were me I would save the heroin to help with the come-down and being able to sleep.
 
In my experience a half gram of coke wouldn't call for the need of a comedown. Mixing opiates and coke is an awesome high, but is very dangerous. I prefer Xanax with my coke, which isn't that much safer. Whatever combination you chose they are both blissful experiences and you may find you only want to do the combo from now on. That's where the danger lies, cause once you experience that type of high you will continue to chase it and may use more and more of both drugs to increase the effects. I know I always tried to make it "better" each time. Just be careful overdoing it as drug combinations of any type are very risky.
 
First of all, DON'T DO IT, HEROIN WITHDRAWALS FEEL 10X WORSE THAN THE PEAK FEELS GOOD! AND COKE IS AN EXPENSIVE HABIT!

Secondly, the combo of coke and H is amazing, too amazing. I would seriously reconsider trying heroin though, it is really a hard drug to only do once! If you do combine the 2, just make sure to not overdo it with the heroin when you are peaking on coke, this is usually what leads to an overdose. Also avoid benzos and alcohol when doing the combo. Be safe, have fun!
 
I took it easy all night with both drugs. Did small lines until i felt content. I still have left over from each. I do feel like shit today tho..i went to sleep at 4a, and woke up at 530am. I cant keep any liquids down and i just threw up my Tums and advil. I hope this shit goes away soon. I saw a few of u post that u thought this was my first time with both drugs. I have done both before but never together. I have done coke..maybe 5 times in my life. never more than a line here or there. Last night id guess i did .25g of coke and..2 full baggies of dope. My tolerance to H is mediocre at best. Thnk you guys for all the fast replies. I appreciate all of your care and knowledge.

- Old Greggggg
 
OLD.GREGGGGG said:
I took it easy all night with both drugs. Did small lines until i felt content. I still have left over from each. I do feel like shit today tho..i went to sleep at 4a, and woke up at 530am. I cant keep any liquids down and i just threw up my Tums and advil. I hope this shit goes away soon. I saw a few of u post that u thought this was my first time with both drugs. I have done both before but never together. I have done coke..maybe 5 times in my life. never more than a line here or there. Last night id guess i did .25g of coke and..2 full baggies of dope. My tolerance to H is mediocre at best. Thnk you guys for all the fast replies. I appreciate all of your care and knowledge.

- Old Greggggg
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That was my concern. You have tried cocaine but are inexperienced with it, therefore you may aswell have never used it. It amounts to the same. You obviously took far too much heroin. What made you do so much?
 
the term speedball is about injecting coke and herion but you can get similar effects from snorting or eating the drugs as well
 
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