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Don't smoke 2C-I, kids

sorry for bumping this, i found it on a google search and im a member of bluelight. hopefully theres not a newer thread where my post would be more relevant.

just my two cents:
ive smoked what was claimed (and worked like) to be 99% pure phenazepam with foil and all, i got massive amounts of purple smoke and residue, so i figured that cant be good, especially since when i looked online for smoking that stuff i couldnt find anything about purple residue.

after reading this thread i decided screw it ill smoke some 2ci (since im pretty sure i got a nice batch). i put about 15mgish on the foil, and ripped it up. the smoke was mostly normal looking for the most part and it slid and became very dark (basically black) residue. i got a nasty taste in my mouth, but no s**t on my teeth like when smoking opium.

its only been like 5 minutes =D i feel a nice jittery come up coming on. hope my post can help someone in some way thats my purpose.
 
7zark7 said:
oooh! Really? I didn't know that.

Everyday's a school day on Bluelight ;)
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Yep, for your information, amphetamine = alpha-methyl-phenethylamine

Oh, just noticed this is an old thread, so I'll just reply to the new poster.. Why did you smoke phenazepam? Seriously.. why?

As for smoking 2C-I, I don't really think you should be so concerned about it, many things, when smoked, leave a black residue - however remember it's a research chemical and so don't be certain about anything.

Yes 2Cs can be smoked, and in reality, from my basic knowledge of what happens when things are smoked (I'm no scientist, so don't quote me on this, and don't go smoking it unless you know what you're doing) - 2Cs are safe when smoked. However to me personally it seems pointless, since we have plenty of other ROAs that we know are very safe.

Though, out of interest, I'd like to know, for people who have smoked 2Cs, how much did you reduce your dosage by over say oral? How long did it last? Any differences in effects etc?
 
It could be iodine, but not from a break of 2CI.
A common synthesis of 2CI end bye : R + I2(iodine) -> (RI+(2Ci salt))+ (I-), its 2CI iodure, a iodine salt of 2CI, and some iodine can also be present if there is no more purification.
Are you sure it was a chlorhydrate and not a iodure ?
 
Dr Mamba said:
It could be iodine, but not from a break of 2CI.
A common synthesis of 2CI end bye : R + I2(iodine) -> (RI+(2Ci salt))+ (I-), its 2CI iodure, a iodine salt of 2CI, and some iodine can also be present if there is no more purification.
Are you sure it was a chlorhydrate and not a iodure ?
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I doubt he's going to reply since the original thread is 4 years old, that's why I replied to the new poster rather than the OP.
 
This reminds me when I accidentally smoked 2c-p. I thought I had just scraped up a hit of jwh-018 when it was actually the 2c. As soon as I vaped it I started coughing and blew out the smoke because of how harsh it is on the lungs.
 
In the name of science, curiosity and stupidity I've had a go at smoking most 2Cs. They're all pretty nasty but 2C-I was the worst by some distance. Kinda does to your lungs what 2C-E does to your nose. Horribly painful and deeply unpleasant. But it works okay if you don't mind the burning, soreness and chest-tightness that comes with it.

Smoking 2Cs is just pointless and stoopid, in my opinion. The doses may be significantly reduced but they're all very nasty to smoke, hell on the lungs and pretty short-acting to boot. Definitely an ROA to skip for 2C-I and all the other 2Cs, I'd say.
 
I've smoked DOET, in an attempt to cut down on duration, and it worked fine (by effect, duration was still ~24h). I don't know about any of the halogenated ones though. And MDA smells/tastes really bad and discolours quickly when vapourised, never really got an effect from that, maybe because of the dose needed.

The ability to titrate dosages is a point for doing it, I think. The effect is almost immediate. Maybe some work better/decompose less than others. Still, I wouldn't advise it.
 
fastandbulbous said:
Getting halogens to separate from an aromatic ring takes more than a bit of heat; also the amount of iodine present in 10mg of 2C-I is going to be way less than 5mg and you're simply not going to see the presence of 5mg of iodine as it would sublime (turn directly from solid to gas) way before the melting/vapourization point of 2C-I
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But what if it were converted it to a freebase form before vaporization, I know that on most things, removing the HCl or other ion from it generally drops the vaporization temp, to something considerably lower then the decomposition point.

I still wouldn't smoke it, seems like a bad idea even if its not full of iodine.
 
Besides this so called purple iodine you've experienced. How were the effects of the inhaled 2c-i?
Were they minor, or were they clearly noticeable. SWIM been curious as to smoking it, seeing as SWIM would love to experience the effects, without having to consume quite amount of milligrams.
 
It works very well. Just agonising and totally fucks your lungs to the point of nearly calling an ambulance (in my case at least). That is not something I would even think of doing lightly I can assure you. I'd rather just eat or plug the extra 10mg or so it takes to get the same effect and then some. Especially as smoking it only lasts around two hours as opposed to 8-10.
 
Shambles said:
It works very well. Just agonising and totally fucks your lungs to the point of nearly calling an ambulance (in my case at least). That is not something I would even think of doing lightly I can assure you. I'd rather just eat or plug the extra 10mg or so it takes to get the same effect and then some. Especially as smoking it only lasts around two hours as opposed to 8-10.
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Plugging it would seem sort of painful? Excuse me for asking, but how is it compared to insulfulating, and are there any nausea effects?
 
Plugging is totally painless. And requires half the oral dose. 10mg up the jacksy should have you flying in most cases. No nausea (one of the other big plus points of plugging) unless the rush makes you puke cos it comes on very rapidly indeed.
 
Shambles said:
Plugging is totally painless. And requires half the oral dose. 10mg up the jacksy should have you flying in most cases. No nausea (one of the other big plus points of plugging) unless the rush makes you puke cos it comes on very rapidly indeed.
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Appreciate your response, I hope to try it in the future if I ever get a hold of some.
 
sackynut said:
sorry for bumping this, i found it on a google search and im a member of bluelight. hopefully theres not a newer thread where my post would be more relevant.

just my two cents:
ive smoked what was claimed (and worked like) to be 99% pure phenazepam with foil and all, i got massive amounts of purple smoke and residue, so i figured that cant be good, especially since when i looked online for smoking that stuff i couldnt find anything about purple residue.

after reading this thread i decided screw it ill smoke some 2ci (since im pretty sure i got a nice batch). i put about 15mgish on the foil, and ripped it up. the smoke was mostly normal looking for the most part and it slid and became very dark (basically black) residue. i got a nasty taste in my mouth, but no s**t on my teeth like when smoking opium.

its only been like 5 minutes =D i feel a nice jittery come up coming on. hope my post can help someone in some way thats my purpose.
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sounds like you just burnt your chem bro =====>>>> vaporise


Jesusgreen said:
Yep, for your information, amphetamine = alpha-methyl-phenethylamine

Oh, just noticed this is an old thread, so I'll just reply to the new poster.. Why did you smoke phenazepam? Seriously.. why?

As for smoking 2C-I, I don't really think you should be so concerned about it, many things, when smoked, leave a black residue - however remember it's a research chemical and so don't be certain about anything.

Yes 2Cs can be smoked, and in reality, from my basic knowledge of what happens when things are smoked (I'm no scientist, so don't quote me on this, and don't go smoking it unless you know what you're doing) - 2Cs are safe when smoked. However to me personally it seems pointless, since we have plenty of other ROAs that we know are very safe.

Though, out of interest, I'd like to know, for people who have smoked 2Cs, how much did you reduce your dosage by over say oral? How long did it last? Any differences in effects etc?
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2C's can be smoked, hell yes they can. My mate, 2x glass pipes and a shitload of garbled 2CI+2CB nonsense for like 8+ hours account for huh? lol sorry away from the cutting into the main subject here - purple smoke = not good. if your turn purple when you go to hit it? back away man, stay put.
it was fun though, it reminded me of that scene in fear n loathing in the hotel room when everything's red and his lawyers head was (a bull wasn't it) any yeah, total that plus more.
we just basically threw the gear back n forth until we couldn't see well enough to get messier we just lay there on my couch listing to some DJ mix done by this guy we knew. we didn't like him as a person, we didn't like his "DJ talents" one bit because he so obviously being a copycat track for track it's like what, "you think no one else in this fucken scene who listens to that shit is gonna notice! you dumb fuck!!

sorry, this should have gone in the vent/rant thread 8)

MagickalKat777 said:
You tried smoking phenazepam? 8)
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I bang it and it's the only way to go.
 
thanks self-aware, for showing some regard to how violently one is "smoking" the 2c's
drugs have boiling points, and they have combustion points.
if you can manage to keep the temperature of the drug below the combustion point and evaporate it (a technique dmt users (and hell anyone that often smokes a chem) might master well, by taste) then you should be able to deliver a clean coating of drug all over your mouth and lung membranes. i guess some drugs might have a very small range (combustion minus boiling) to work in, so that would have to be investigated to really say anything.
if you ask me, though, the fact that some people are doing it with no side effects and some people are hacking their lungs out on purple grime makes it really evident that some people are smoking it right, and some people are sucking flame through the stuff too hard
 
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