DONE Mescaline extraction... now questions

[octaz]

SWIM finished his Isopropyl alcohol based mescaline extraction today using 193 grams of Peruvian torch cactus.

SWIMS yield was 23.34 grams of a black tar residue.


SWIM read quite a bit of about others experiences using an alcohol based extraction and this yield seems a bit high. Is it simply possible that my Peruvian torch was much more potent then others, thus giving a greater yield?

Also, their was bad weather out so instead of letting SWIMS extracted Peruvian torch/alcohol mix evaporate in the sun, SWIM kept it in the oven at 220 degrees Fahrenheit to dissolve. 10-12 hours later, SWIM was left with the tar. Could this possibly diminish the quality of the mescaline extract?

And lastly, in terms of dosage, SWIMS read that 1 gram of this extract is usually equal to around 100mg of mescaline. Is that a fair estimation?

Thanks for your time fellas,
octaz

 

[OldBoy]

Hi octaz, The Nook is probably the best place for advice on this - they are full of info and very helpful. I don't know whether I am allowed to post a link but you can google it very easily.

 

[Propyl Power]

That's strange, I recall reading that IPA wasn't very good to use with cactus because it doesn't draw the alkaloids out as well as other solvents.

the cactus extraction forum at the DMT-nexus is worth your perusal

 

[Feste]

Yeah I've heard acetone works a lot better. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Cybion]

Well octaz, first off, please read the rules of this forum and board, don't use SWIM in here, it's beyond annoying to everyone reading and and it doesn't do shit for you. period. second off, while mescaline can take an okay amount of heat the heat WILL degrade it, no doubt about that, and at 220 degrees, I'd be surprised if that tar is still active at all. and 1 gram = 100 mg? that's a bit nuts, I doubt this very much unless you did a really really really really horrible extraction and fucked everything in it to hell and back multiple times. octaz, maybe next time you should do some more reading, and possible do an acid base extraction instead, this will save you so much hassle

 

[Shakti]

cybion, are you the self-anointed swim police?

Regard the heat used for evaporation. It has been said by a number of people that heat and mescaline dont mix well, so perhaps it did somewhat degrade you tar's potency. However, I suspect that it will still be substantially active.

 

[Cybion]

Shakati I do not claim to be any kind of police, but one of the many reasons I am a part of bluelight instead of one of the many other boards around is the fact that bluelight doesn't use SWIM or other stupid names, it's BEYOND annoying and ruins any post or thread. Also, you think that it's still going to have the majority of it's activity left after 12 hours sitting in 220 degrees? personally I think not, that's a lot of heat. Put anything in 220 degrees for 12 hours and see if it survives...

 

[mahatoka]

That's strange, I recall reading that IPA wasn't very good to use with cactus because it doesn't draw the alkaloids out as well as other solvents.

the cactus extraction forum at the DMT-nexus is worth your perusal

Ya I've always wondered why iso was used, it's terrible at dissolving mescaline. Playing with some synthed stuff, it took a ton of stirring for about 15 minutes to dissolve a minuscule amount in 150-200ml at room temperature. For that reason it's great for recrystallizing, but I'd bet that people extracting from cacti with it miss a lot of the good stuff. I think I remember reading about washing extracts with 99% IPA as well, which would be bad if mescaline was easily soluble in it.