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DOI sold as acid?

I've had a couple very intense acid trips that lasted 14-17 hours (though i did take multiple blotters both times), but both of them were from a trusted source and both of them onset within 30 mins of taking the blotter, also some people ate from the same batches and tripped less than 10 hours. think I have anything to worry about, as far as it possibly having been DOx?
 
It's really hard to say. There's no basis to insist that all DO-x substances take 2-3 hours to onset in all people.

Likewise, a 16 hour LSD experience is not extraordinary either.

So these borderline time frames can be ambiguous. It's the "3 hours to onset/30 hour duration" descriptions that give more credence to the possibility of a non-LSD experience.
 
^^^ I don't think onset time is a good judge of a psychedelic substance. I've had a 90 minute onset for genuine LSD before. That's the exception rather than the rule, but I've had it happen.

Duration is a better measure. I've NEVER had an LSD trip last more than 6 hours. Most of my shroom trips are over in 2h. Keep in mind I'm a skinny stick of a guy with a very high metabolism, plus I never take more than 2 hits and don't boost or redose. On DOI/B, it's at least a full day before I feel fully normal again.
 
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I am wondering what the current situation is regarding DOI.
I am on Nardil and irriversable MAOI and as such I have to be very careful about what I take. I have done acid several times with no problems at all but I am quite concerned as to what would happen if I got DOI instead... Any thoughts?
 
willow11 said:
DOx are potent enough to be put on blotters/geltabs with noone being the wiser until they eat it, and then I guess their relying on peoples inability to differentiate substances. Its a fucking shit thing to do, and has made me EXTREMEMLY wary when purchasing acid now. I would love to hear if anyone outside the US and Europe are getting these chems sold as LSD.
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That's one reason why I stopped using acid because of reading reports of people on this site, on erowid, and on other sites who got DOx or 2C-B-fly or another RC instead of LSD.
 
Survived Abortion said:
What are you all gonna do about it? :)
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If I were to take psychedelics again at this point in my life since I was into LSD, mushrooms, and herb when I was younger but haven't used anything in about close to a decade I'd just eat some herb in a prepared food like a brownie, I'd take some mushrooms, or I'd take some San Pedro as I've never done this.
 
Hewhomustnotbenamed said:
^^^yeah, I know, even DOx, 5-meo-amt, etc don't take that long. I just assumed he was exaggerating.

I suppose it could be plain paper, but the guy seemed honest, if ignorant. He told me that a friend of his took it, felt nothing, went to sleep, and woke up tripping.
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I found 5-Meo-AMT kicked in quite quickly, but then again me and my mate smoked it (not recommended unless you want hand trailers still a month later ;) )
 
I have a question: I took a quarter hit of what I thought was LSD but reading it here it seems DOx is not that hard to come by being sold as acid. It did taste bitter, but not much, I felt kind of "poisoned" in my body during the trip and it last some good 10 hours. What are the odds that what I took was realy DOx? And is it anymore dangerous in the long term than LSD? I actually enjoyed the trip, very clear headed and "in the moment" and there is still 3/4 of it around here, I want to know what are the risks of taking it another time : P
 
To answer Marvo Ging: there is less known about the DOX and has a smaller therapeutic index than LSD. That means that while 1 dose may be fine, 10 may be dangerous while 10 hits of LSD won't hurt you physically - only give a strong trip. The odds of what you have being DOX are virtually impossible to determine, I have had funky tasting LSD as well as tasteless LSD. 10 hours is pretty short for a DOX but it may be one of the less extensively acting and/or a small dose.
If you have only that little left and enjoyed it the first time then I don't see why you can't take 3/4 of a hit. DOX can provide a slightly chemical toxic and speedy feeling, but lower-quality LSD has given me body dirtiness as well.

If you ask me the jury is still out and don't expect them to come in. If you plan on getting more of these blotters, then you might want to get an EZ / Marquis test reagent, let the blotter soak in a minimal amount of water, just enough to dissolve DOX and see if you get a yellowgreen reaction. Or get it analyzed if you can (it's not that common I've heard).
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I doubt most of the acid blotters now are DOI or even DOX, those kinds of observations are apparent from limited geographics. On the other hand my guess is that worldwide the percentage of DOX blotters to acid blotters may be steadily rising and consequently the times its passed of as 'the real thing'.

Just recently I've heard of blotters of compounds other than acid around me or in this country. I'm not counting the rolling paper blotters I made JWH-018 and phenazepam doses with. I mean paper tripping blotters.
Among them are 5-MeO-AMT, DOX and Br-Dragonfly. They are provided as such, but you can imagine that further down the line of passing those on, people may start lying.

I vote for a joined 'DOX sold as acid blotter' thread by the way. I don't think what DOX it is is not relevant enough in this matter that we should keep it separate. Have to find older 'DOX as acid' threads though so stand by.
And object with good reason if need be. :)
 
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Thanks for the answer, so DOx being research chemicals and all there's still not much information about their long term health effects or anything, right? I don't see myself doing 2 hits, let alone 10, so that's not one of my worries. I've heard it causes some bad vasoconstriction in large doses, but any other bad effects I should look out for?Thank you again.
 
I've only got DOx instead of acid once, and it was on a blotter. I got it from a guy I didn't know, I'm not going to do that again. I ended up tripping for 25 hours off of one hit when I was only planning on tripping for 10 to 14 hours. I didn't end up getting a chance to sleep for a full 48, it was an enjoyable trip but it was inconvenient.
 
In the Netherlands its possible to test you illegal drugs for substance and potency; and there the testing results of other chemicals on blotters are pretty rare; it does exist here too but its just very uncommon; personally I had all my blotters tested there and I've only had real LSD, most people I know do.

The dosage testing on LSD isn't too certain by the way, we don't know how much of the unstable chemical they broke during the testing or storing it to be tested; it gives a decent estimate dose though; I mean if your blotter had been tested at 50 ug or less, you know you'll have to take 2 or 3 for a really good trip, and if it tets at 200 ug you know its a bad idea to take 2 or 3 hits, so it still helps :)

Either way, I díd have a 16 hour trip on real acid. I had it tested that time too, actually becáuse I was doubtful because of the duration, but it turned out to be just a high dose of LSD, so its not that if your trip is long its always another chemical. I did also hear that DOx-es have a remarkably long come-up, my 16 hour trip started in 10-20 minutes, as high doses of LSD always show their early signs really fast.

I'm not sure how you can find out without the testing, but I've had long lasting and bitter hits that were absolutely really 100% LSD; also tasteless ones by the way, but bitter doesn't mean other chemical, it might mean it, but definatly not for certain.

I think you have to find out by the effects themselves, and if you have no access to purity/substance testing of drugs, I'd say keep the first dose of a new blotter lów, because LSD has a huge therapeutic range (meaning you can't overdose easily), while DOx substances have a much shorter one, so take 1 hit of a new blotter and not more, maybe even just half to make sure of what you're getting, if you can't test. And if you cán test but are impatient and don't want to wait for results, the same thing does.
 
LSD being and ergoline and not a phenethylamine - I have never had a problem mixing the two of them.

Back on topic, so if I get a regent tester and test and "acid" I come across I can be fairly sure it is the real deal?
Where in amsterdam do they do the drug testing? I am heading to dance vally in a few months and thats where I want to drop
 
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