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Does this sound like too much LSD? Or did this guy have a psychotic break?

I didn't read the whole post, but enough to read about smoking weed while tripping. This is something that you see often in these kind of reports. A significant portion of people cannot handle weed on psychs, and should refrain from combining them.

so true.
this happens so damn often. look through trips gone wrong reports in here: more often than not there's a sentence like: " I sat down to smoke a spliff and he hit it a few times, maybe that's what kicked it off because that's when it started to get weird." and most often people don't even seem to see the connection... :/
I feel BL/erowid etc need to communicate this more aggressively. combining potent psychedelics and cannabis is not safe, it actually carries high risks with potentially catastrophic consequences. just like eating untested pills every other day, injecting tablets, combining downers, stuff like that - basic harm reduction...
 
feed the dude lsd let him freak out and then call the police on him..

i wouldnt do it to an enemy let alone a 'friend'.

hope it all works out.

+ 1 on the benzo suggestion.
 
He didn't look scared, more angry/insane. He wanted to take three, he's taken two several times. I haven't even taken three, two takes me to the point where i can't really say what I want to say and it's confusing rather than insightful.

I always have pepper spray and a knife, I live in a pretty grimey neighborhood. I mean damn I got punched in the head by a kid that looked no older than 15, couple blocks up from my house.

To the best of my knowledge, it was LSD. It was on plain paper, rather thick paper, no bitter taste that I could notice. No taste at all.

It is probably going to be a while before I trip again, but I am not doing it again without benzo patches on hand. Any other good way to administer benzos to someone who can't or won't take a pill?

Thanks for all your input, it's been a ton of help. :D
 
Why are you people responding if you won't bother to read it? Its not that long, you're acting like you're still in elementary school. Fuck off if you're not going to help, damn man, but back to what I was going to say.

This happened to me a few months ago. I was the one going crazy though. I took 5 hits of strong LSD (by the way even if it wasn't LSD, it wouldn't make a difference, you took a hallucinogen no matter what) and it was going fine at first. My friend took 2. I had benzos on me in case of such a situation too. My friend knew it, but his response to this situation was kind of selfish, he didn't want to have to deal with me. You did the right thing helping him though, even if it damaged you, and I'm sure he's very thankful.

For the first few hours of the trip I couldn't really get my thoughts together and verbalize, like what happened with your friend. I got a bit aggressive with the friend I was with but all I did was push him and say "aggression!". I was just trying to communicate that he needed to express what he was feeling, because he was already kind of freaked out by how I was acting (which is reasonable, I was acting almost insane). It seemed odd to me and me not being able to think/verbalize correctly made it worse. Then he ran away from me full speed. Suddenly everything changes, him running made me snap, my mind couldn't make sense of what was happening for almost the entire trip, like I was a step behind of reality, so when he ran that made all of that worse. The world behind me falls into a black hole and I was thinking that, if I don't run and catch up with my friend, I will get caught in this black hole. So from there I have the delusion in my head that I need to run and figure out this "riddle" of how to get out of the state i was in (hard to explain, don't ask). What really happened was I ran, lost him, sat in someones grass awaiting what I thought was death (because I gave up on trying to figure out the riddle), got piled on by cops, and put in an ambulance. Your story is extremely similar to my whole story (theres a lot more details I'm not including here). The reason I think it happened was because my mind was behind what was actually happening, it was too much sensory input. I had no idea what was happening while it was happening, and it took me a couple days of trying hard to remember it all to come up with the whole story. I don't think it was too much LSD, although that definitely was part of it, and I didn't permanently go crazy. In fact, the psychotic state ended as I came down from the acid and from there on there were no side or lingering effects at all. I trip pretty often actually, I consider myself one of the most mentally stable people I know (sober and while tripping), but this was weird and unexpected.

It is reasonable that you wouldn't want to speak to this friend of yours anymore, but try to at least. He didn't mean to do what he did. After my incident it was pretty difficult for me and my friend to communicate. I was hurt that he just ran away from me, he was traumatized by seeing his best friend go insane while he himself was on LSD. Its been a while and we still didn't "work things out" completely, he has this problem where he can't face his problems. So think about it, you're the one who is hurt here and he is obviously very sorry for it. I know it will be hard and you don't want to do it, but if you don't face your issue here it will just make it worse for you.

Edit: You can't figure out why he went crazy. In my experience, there was not one reason, but too many. It started with me not being able to communicate with my friend, then this massive bee started flying around us which freaked me out and I couldn't get over it, I meditated and it was sooooo intense that it really stressed me out, I couldn't really stand up or think straight and we had to go act sober while we picked up our friend, instead of trying to figure out/deal with the problem my friend ran away from me, we both forgot about the benzos, I picked a forest (which is great for weak trips but when you trip really hard you just want a bed and nothing to bother you). In the end the actual snap was when my friend ran and it confused me into insanity.
 
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The post is actually quite entertaining lol.

3 tabs is definitely too much for anyone who never took it before. I guess he totally lost himself...

Don't judge him by the things he did on that trip. Lsd can seriously mess you up.
 
Also to help prevent pissing off someone in a bad trip is if he wanted to dance around naked or play walnut wars, you should have let him. Most people don't like being controlled and more-so when they're tripping.

I never usually lol but completely lost it at the walnut war comment hahaaa!!

But anyways... my feeling is that the weed was a bad idea.... it gives me the worst anxiety and makes me feel like I am somehow going to lose control every damn time, and if I was on a psych, I actually might. Some people are like that. I don't think the friendship should be stopped over this as he was not in full control... just my 2 cents
 
I would just chalk it up to a bad trip. It could have happened on one hit just as easily as the three or even five. I had a similar experience while testing out some mushrooms that a friend grew. They were great, and yes maybe the dosage was a tad on the heavy side, but things really went south when our sober sitter and myself decided to force my friend outside for a walk. He really did not want to leave the house, and was moved out of his comfort zone.
 
IME weed can cause schizo break in certain people especially when tripping.

Never mix weed on a first trip and always have benzos, zyprexa, or seroquel on hand.

Idiotic incidents like this are the reason we are oppressed with illegal plants, fungi, and psychoactive compunds. Entheogens can give incredible insight and be very constructive if done right. But we are all criminals because of irresponsible abuse like this.

IMHO your friends aren't experienced enough to be taking LSD, get to know someone older with experience in set/setting and maturity.
 
A huge majority of people who take psychedelics also smoke weed. This was the first trip Jon had, not Adam. I presume Jon also took two hits and smoked weed. Events like this occur because of shifts that resemble schizophrenia, it is an effect of intoxication. Calling it idiocy is a misnomer for the same reason it is not accurate to call it schizophrenia. Psychotomimetics cause delusions; Adam thought Jon was being an idiot, you thought you were being insightful. In my humble opinion you both were just experiencing delusions.
 
i can see the daily mail headline now. "crazed kids on LSD having dangerous naked wallnut fights with pepper spray and knives"
 
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