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Does Taking MDMA or Ecstasy Pills Make you Dumb?

i only generally feel dumb for about a day and its only a lil bit i did however roll every day for about 2 1/2 weeks once anywhere from 3 to 9 pills a night and felt fine till i tried to go to sleep after it was all over it sounded like the loudest noise in the world was in my head like electricity or somethin, thought i was gonna die but i was so tired i went to sleep anyway now i wont roll more than 4-5 times a mo at most and sometimes go 6 mos without rollin i am a little more bitter when i roll now tho and i think its cuz i ate so many before now ill be rollin and want to kick the shit out of ppl could be the hardcore music too who knows?

i suppose i didnt really feel fine BTW
 
I feel like three years of moderate E usage has dumbed me down somewhat, especially in regards to searching for words, incorrect words and overall mental clarity.

However, it may be due to something else entirely because at the time I started using E I was also finishing university studies and quit being a bookworm and reading all the time. My vocabulary and mental clarity may well be functions of not engaging my mind at that academic level; so who can really say?
 
i had dumber after effects off of mdma than any other drug ive done, i feel borderline retarded for like 4 days afterwards
 
I agree with what ppl have said here. It doesn't really make you stupid, but it does 'cloud' your mental clarity. After rolling on the saturday night my concentration was fairly poor today.

Oh yea, and this arvo i was pouring a glass of orange juice, and after i poured it, i put the glass of OJ in the fridge and shut the door and was standing there with the bottle in my hand, lol. But that may just be from tiredness from the weekend.
 
Myself im only a once in a few months roller and a few days after I feal Slow. Takes me longer to make decisions ect. but in the long run I recon it has made me smarter. It has made me really wake up and enjoy life for what it is. I see and understand other peoples point of views more clearly and when making a complex decisions I find that Im able to think in a more indepth way
 
not at all even some times on mdma i can be a genius lol
i take mdma once 2 weeks and i think it been all great experience and made me realize a couple of things in my life accept some things and change some things actually good decions
 
This is an interesting topic for me.

A few years ago, I was 'hooked', for the lack of a better word, on a nasal spray which allowed me to breathe freely. I had/have a condition where the membranes inside my nostrils will expand, not allowing any oxygen through.

This spray is available over the counter in most chemists, and is strictly recommended for a maximum use of 3-5 days.. I used this, about 6-10 times a day for 3 years..

It affected me, and after consultation with medical professionals, I was told that I simply had to stop or I would continue to suffer from my addiction.. It was not a psychological addiction, although I did love the ability to be able to breathe without any issues..

Anyhow, after coming off it I suffered big time for months and months.. My memory was shot.. but I felt that I was getting better.. My memory whilst on the spray was effected, as was my mood.

Anyhow.. I've used MDMA for a few years now.. nothing to intensively, but perhaps on the 'heavier' side of a good balance.. but due to my body already having had been through a state of 'relearning' after my initial stint with a mind-altering, mood effecting drug.. the MDMA has not effected me at all.. My speech is fine, I hold a very good job and my health hasn't been better..

So.. I think it depends from person to person.. some people can process the effects of MDMA better than others..

ya.
 
Yeah, I had a friend who was dependent on that stuff too... you were dependent, not addicted. Perfect illustration of the difference between addiction and dependence.
 
I have no short term memory anymore really, but everything else seems to be working fine at the moment.

I don't think it makes you dumb but I've definitely noticed those memory changes in myself, however that's been over years of poly drug use so it's impossible to tell what caused it.
 
Haven't noticed much difference. I'd rather be a happy guy with a little damage then a pissed off/depressed sober guy.
 
My husband abused MDMA ridiculously in the past. He hasn't done it in two years and to this day he still has problems....Since then he stutters a bit, maybe not a full-on "make fun of me" stutter, but it's there sometimes. His memory went to shit too. In his case, the X fucked with his brain permanently. At least for the past few years...Time will tell, although if after 2 years he still hasn't stopped, I don't really see it happening.
 
I used to take it quite regularly but haven't for over two years. I went back to school as a mature student two years ago for a Master's in Art History which I successively achieved. This was in spite of the fact that my past use had damaged my ability to concentrate and retain factual information.

I have to accept that some of the damage is probably irreversable but it hasn't stopped me from soldiering on...
 
I think it does get better but never goes away completely, just as people who have been heavy drinkers can stop drinking and repair their livers, though they are never quite the same. All these things are vices and it's up to us to decide which vices are worth the cost.

But I couldn't have been all that fucked up or I wouldn't have been able to complete the postgraduate course with a good mark.
 
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I think the key is in the dose. If I'm sensible and do one or two (which is really all you need in a night if they're okay pills) then I'll be fine for doing whatever the next morning. Heavy doses is bad news bears for my memory the next week.

Of drugs in general though: IME they have an insidious effect of making real life seem greyer if you don't watch them. A lot of mental fog I think is just the brain having reprogrammed itself to pay closer attention to things that will get it high and conversely less attention to things that won't. Just a theory though :)
 
i was doin it alot for a while last year, i stopped when i realized my memory and speech were getting bad. I made a full recovery after 5 months. I recently started rollin again, and over the past month have pretty much abused it. I can feel its effects already. But I have add medication to keep me focused. I can't function normally anymore, but i never really was able to keep focused before E.
 
I have not ingested MDMA or any other drug for over 9 months and I still feel slightly dumber, or "etarted" than I did before. I dont mind it, personally, but I think anyone saying that ecstacy doesnt have any long term effects is lying to themself.
 
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