Does poor quality paper ruin liquid LSD dripped onto it?

[MyDoorsAreOpen]

I recently bought "4 hits" of what I was told was LSD, from a stranger in a strange place. He had it in liquid form, in a plastic dropper. He dripped it onto a square of what I first thought was a piece of a business card, but I later realized was just a little piece of the kind of paper you'd put in a copier. He wrapped it in a glossy party flier, still wet, and handed it to me. I didn't open it until it was dry, and when I did, the paper had left an imprint of residue on the flier.

The first time, I tried 1/4 of the square of paper, which I held on my tongue for an hour. The second time, I tried half of what remained, again, for an hour, this time under my tongue so it wouldn't dissolve too early. Both times I noticed a faint chemical taste. But neither time could I definitively say I felt any effect. I felt something faint, but that could easily be attributed to smoking some good marijuana and expecting to trip.

At this point, is there any point to cutting out that square of residue on the flier with a boxcutter and trying to eat it, or is it safe to assume I was ripped off?

Is it possible this really was LSD, but because of the way it was applied and handled, it didn't survive well?

For the record, in the past I've bought liquid LSD applied to a heavy, non-glossy business card, and waited until it dried in open air before letting it touch anything. Pieces of this business card got me tripping months later.

 

[effie]

We don't field questions on LSD here I'm afraid - going to send this to Psychedelic Drugs )

BDD > PD

 

[Pegasus]

I've had liquid dropped on all kinds of crazy things and stored for up to a few weeks while still retaining potency. It could be weak or fake, but I wouldn't blame it on the paper.

 

[TestOfSanity]

That is not a great way to keep acid. You should also lick the flier also, to get any residual lsd. Probably was just some weak acid. Lsd, does not need to be kept on your tongue, or in your mouth. Swallowing the tab, should produce the same effects. However, if you have just drank a glass of chlorinated tap water, it will probably destroy the acid.

 

[Ismene]

However, if you have just drank a glass of chlorinated tap water, it will probably destroy the acid.

Nah, that's an urban myth.

Is it possible this really was LSD, but because of the way it was applied and handled, it didn't survive well?

No, LSD isn't that fragile. If there was any LSD in the bottle in the first place you would have felt something. You were lucky he only took you for the price of 4 hits.

 

[funkysoul]

If the liquid hasnt been kept cool like in a fridge before it was dropped on the paper and if the papers werent stored in a cold place like the fridge then the LSD will loose its strength, if you get sid you should always drop the blotter asap and if not put in a fridge rapped in cling film and if you get a bottle of sid put it in the fridge not sure why but it keeps the LSD fresh and strong it looses strength when exposed to warm temps for to long ! Theres also a lot of weak sid gong around for a dercent trip you want 150 mcs plus whichs quite hard to come by

 

[Unelmaporsas]

Maybe the acid solution just didn't get properly absorbed but smeared into the packaging?

 

[Ismene]

If the liquid hasnt been kept cool like in a fridge before it was dropped on the paper and if the papers werent stored in a cold place like the fridge then the LSD will loose its strength

Nah it won't. Not unless it's been stored in the bottle for years.

I've kept acid on a blotter at room temperature for at least 12 months with no loss of potency whatsoever.

 

[TheAzo]

If the claims that LSD is destroyed by chlorinated water are true (they sure have been repeated by people who I would think would know better, so i'm inclined to think this is a real problem*), it would hardly be a stretch to imagine that some copier paper would contain enough traces of chlorine from the bleaching process to also destroy LSD dropped onto it. I mean, hell, some copier paper smells faintly of chlorine when new.

It's also quite possible that your source was just scamming, as others have suggested.

*The claim that tap water can destroy LSD is not unreasonable from a chemistry perspective, though the claim that this will happen if you swallow acid after drinking tap water is not. The traces of reactive species would quickly react with other stuff in your stomach.

 

[funkysoul]

If the liquid hasnt been kept cool like in a fridge before it was dropped on the paper and if the papers werent stored in a cold place like the fridge then the LSD will loose its strength

Nah it won't. Not unless it's been stored in the bottle for years.

I've kept acid on a blotter at room temperature for at least 12 months with no loss of potency whatsoever.

seriously i wonder why maybe its something to do with the purity, i bought a strip of 20 and took 10 out and left 10 in the firdge, after a night out had 4 left and due to being so trashed left them in my wallet, the following weekend dropped 2 out of my wallet which did nothing at all, then dropped 2 from the fridge and got the effects of dropping 2 and a m8 who not used to sid dropped 1 from my wallet and it did nothing at all, it probably does have something to do with the potency and maybe if the paper has come into contact with other ingredients before it has been blotted on?!

 

[DwayneHoover]

^ If you didnt wrap the wallet hits in something non-absorbent like cellophane or foil, and they were in contact with other absorbent paper materials or wallet leather, then moisture from your body or even humidity in the air could facilitate leaching of the LSD from the hit into the adjacent materials and weaken the hit.

It is important to always wrap blotter in something non absorbent like cellophane from a cig pack or anything, or a piece of foil or metalized paper wrapper, otherwise even humidity in the atmosphere could extract the LSD into any other absorbent paper it might be touching and ruin it.

 

[Solipsis]

Remember that there are only micrograms of LSD there per dose, so following the line of Shulgins thinking (IIRC) there would hypothetically only have to be micrograms of chlorine there, or enough bleach - hypochlorite I think - to convert into said quantity of chlorine. Even if bleached paper doesn't entirely degrade your LSD it certainly doesn't seem smart.