Does music sound good at high plateaus (DXM)?

[dnkbudz420]

Does music on DXM sound best at low or high plateus? Like say a 300mg compared to like 700 on which dose do you think music sounds the best? Or get music euphoria? I have heard of people saying that music actually sounds better at lower plateus than higher but it doesn't seem right

 

[xx001]

I don't like listening to music with dissociatives. It seems to foreign to me. Others will think differently though.

 

[GolemGolem]

Depends on the person. For me it depends on the dose - the music I like on high plateaus is different than on lower ones. The higher I am the more I like noise, ambient doom, glitchy idm, old Throbbing Gristle weird abrasive barely musical music. Lower doses I like lots of everything punk rock, rap, chill vocal electronica, and nicer ambient. If you go high be sure to check out Autechre, and maybe Boris.
Edit:
Oh and check this thread for good suggestions of things to try:http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/653649-The-Big-amp-Dandy-Music-on-Dissociatives-Thread

 

[Lightning-Nl]

I found DXM to actually make music sound less as good. If you really want to enhance music, the best thing you can take is some E. Music while high on MDMA is nothing like you will ever experience again. It's literally orgasmic. I'm sure you've heard the term "eargasm" before, but you don't know the true meaning of "eargasm" until you've heard music on MDMA.

Interestingly enough though, I can sometimes get that same feeling from Amphetamine. It's quite rare, and only happens at higher doses, but it does happen.

 

[RhythmSpring]

Depends on a lot of factors.

 

[Kyouma]

For me, 700mg combined with some dank weed gives me the most euphoric sensation I've felt. Music is pure bliss as well, I feel as if my body is having an orgasm at every single note. I can honestly say I like it more than MDMA.

 

[kiu]

Yeah, guess music worked best with 2. plateau for me so far. On 3. dissociation is a bit too deep and intense to take full bliss from anything external, though music and other stimuli get an extreme twist then and may be much more interesting than lower. 4th plateau or sigma I haven't tried yet. And 1st plateau may be great for music if you're an inexperienced user, in the range of your first 10 DXM trips. At that initial point 1st plateau was so great for my musical experience I would do it a couple of times just for that, as it has the most stim qualities. However after the first few couple trips 1st plateau became more of a contemplative intoxication for me which I still like to visit but music doesn't make for a very great main focus.

So all in all I'd say you might wanna go with 2nd. Sound feel is already very well expanded by then and any good music may surprise you with composition. I love to listen to particular sounds texture and feel on DXM, so I highly advise putting on good headphones and forgetting about your surroundings.

Also I'd like to add that however music on DXM is maybe less ecstatic for me than on substances with more serotoninergic qualities, I'm totally hooked on listening to it in this state. I couldn't do a DXM trip without listening to music for at least a half of its time. Do you guys have that too?

 

[Black Rabbit of Inle]

I find that on doses above 800mg, music becomes too confusing to really get into and I prefer silence or a movie on in the background.

 

[BlueHues]

I swear to God, the whole "plateau" bullshit makes it sound like DXM is actually a legit drug...It's not...Unless you're in prison, stuck on island with nothing else, or 12 years old and can only get high whatever you can steal from the local pharmacy, it's utter crap that doesn't even warrant a second glance....

The ability to obtain drugs online at super-custy prices and the whole RC thing has given people who don't have the social or the street skills to buy a joint in NorCal during harvest season access to a whole host of drugs they have no business even being near....Natural selection fails...If you can't actually find drugs in real life, you have no fucking business doing them...

As far as how music sounds on different DXM "plateaus"? Man up, find some weed and listen to fucking Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon...

Jesus this world is going downhill...

 

[bapae]

I swear to God, the whole "plateau" bullshit makes it sound like DXM is actually a legit drug...It's not...Unless you're in prison, stuck on island with nothing else, or 12 years old and can only get high whatever you can steal from the local pharmacy, it's utter crap that doesn't even warrant a second glance....

The ability to obtain drugs online at super-custy prices and the whole RC thing has given people who don't have the social or the street skills to buy a joint in NorCal during harvest season access to a whole host of drugs they have no business even being near....Natural selection fails...If you can't actually find drugs in real life, you have no fucking business doing them...

As far as how music sounds on different DXM "plateaus"? Man up, find some weed and listen to fucking Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon...

Jesus this world is going downhill...

From a pharmacological standpoint DXM is a "legit" drug, A drugs a drugs a drug.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I swear to God, the whole "plateau" bullshit makes it sound like DXM is actually a legit drug...It's not...Unless you're in prison, stuck on island with nothing else, or 12 years old and can only get high whatever you can steal from the local pharmacy, it's utter crap that doesn't even warrant a second glance....

The ability to obtain drugs online at super-custy prices and the whole RC thing has given people who don't have the social or the street skills to buy a joint in NorCal during harvest season access to a whole host of drugs they have no business even being near....Natural selection fails...If you can't actually find drugs in real life, you have no fucking business doing them...

As far as how music sounds on different DXM "plateaus"? Man up, find some weed and listen to fucking Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon...

Jesus this world is going downhill...

Why the hate dude? I hate dxm but I won't doubt it's quality as a legitimate drug.
It can be very powerfully dissociative and hallucinogenic drug, so why is it not a legit drug? Simply because it can be found in an OTC form?
It really makes no sense, and he asked a question about how music sounds on dxm and you really provided nothing useful to the thread.

I would think it would sound kinda weird at higher doses, if it's anything like ketamine. I haven't done dxm in years and I don't really remember my last trip.
If it is like ketamine in the way it makes music sound though at lower doses it should sound quite pleasurable

 

[kidklmx]

Yeah, sure, BlueHues. One's ability to talk to shady people and other social skills should dictate whether or not one takes drugs, NOT his willingness to look-up various aspects of, an admittedly imperfect, drug before taking it.

I've never done DXM, never will, but from what I read there are some aspects to it that place it well beyond drugs you somehow consider "legit"

 

[electrodevo]

Yeah, sure, BlueHues. One's ability to talk to shady people and other social skills should dictate whether or not one takes drugs, NOT his willingness to look-up various aspects of, an admittedly imperfect, drug before taking it.

I guess drugs are obviously only cool when they are illegal. That means all MDMA made before 1985 sucks, for instance, and that Sandoz LSD must have been horrible.

DXM, ketamine, and MXE (and probably other dissociatives / NMDA antagonists) all have quite a number of similarities. Anyone who suggests otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

[dnkbudz420]

I smoke a shit ton of weed and my tolerance doesn't let me enjoy music as much as I used to. One o the main reasons I'm doing the dxm is to just get crazy music euphoria cuz I just love how it sounds on dxm. My first trip was like 350mg and my 2nd was like 550 and my first trip music sounded amazing and on my second It just didnt sound as good. So what I'm wondering is what dosage should I take to get the best euphoria ill be listening mostly to pink floyd n shit like that

 

[exists]

I swear to God, the whole "plateau" bullshit makes it sound like DXM is actually a legit drug...It's not...

Separating DXM's effects into plateaus just happens to be a useful tool for characterizing its effects. Not all drugs can be said to have such plateaus, but the metaphor rings true with DXM.

Unless you're in prison, stuck on island with nothing else, or 12 years old and can only get high whatever you can steal from the local pharmacy, it's utter crap that doesn't even warrant a second glance.... The ability to obtain drugs online at super-custy prices and the whole RC thing has given people who don't have the social or the street skills to buy a joint in NorCal during harvest season access to a whole host of drugs they have no business even being near....Natural selection fails...If you can't actually find drugs in real life, you have no fucking business doing them...

You make no sense whatsoever. Weed has always been easy to obtain around here (NorCal), as has meth. But try to find something else, and more often than not you're out of luck unless you're under the age of 18, happen to find a festival, or are willing to go into a major city. Mushrooms pop up every once in a while, but spending half a C note on an 1/8th is not what I'd call a good bargain. LSD is rare, and those who do have it eat it all up before it can ever make its rounds (or they keep like 1 tab in their wallet for years).

Back to the age issue: it's not the youth who have a difficult time finding drugs! It's the OGs (old geezers) like me who don't have the hookups. I can easily get cannabis or meth, but other things... not so much. Sure, I could roam around the local towns until I find something, but I'm not going to go start making friends with a bunch of little brats. And besides, they're the ones who end up having the most research chemicals, and ironically, the ones least likely to use them cautiously.

So in the end, I could go online and buy the same shit that you could get on the street, except that by going (more or less) direct I can get a better deal and not have to deal with assholes.

Aside from the issue of availability is the question of quality. DXM can be an amazing drug if used correctly. It's a shitty drug if you take it expecting it to be like something else. It's not acid, mescaline, MDMA, etc. It's DXM: a dissociative anesthetic. It's both an antidepressant and a psychedelic, though not "classical" in either sense. Hallucinations from it are relatively rare, but when present they are amazing.

And if you're like me and on mirtazapine, finding LSD, mushrooms or the like isn't going to do you a whole lot of good. I've always been an acid hardhead, and being on mirtazapine makes it so much worse.

Jesus this world is going downhill...

Finally, something we can both agree on :D

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Does music on DXM sound best at low or high plateus? Like say a 300mg compared to like 700 on which dose do you think music sounds the best? Or get music euphoria? I have heard of people saying that music actually sounds better at lower plateus than higher but it doesn't seem right

Personally, I go for the 3rd plateau for music appreciation, preferably in combination with cannabis, but it can be pretty nice on the second plateau too. I imagine it has something to do with what aspects of the music people are appreciating, if you're going for aficionado type appreciation, the lower plateaux will be more useful. If you want a musically guided journey between the cracks in time, you're going for the higher plateaux.

If you can't actually find drugs in real life, you have no fucking business doing them

Yeah, 'cause your average street drug user knows anything at all about the drugs they put into their bodies. 8)

 

[GolemGolem]

So what I'm wondering is what dosage should I take to get the best euphoria ill be listening mostly to pink floyd n shit like that

400-500mgs is what I'd suggest, unless you're listing to the early instrumental shit, then the textures can get pretty neat at higher doses. But for music with lyrics and structure that you're used to, yeah 2nd plateau is what you want. Higher doses really fuck up your sound perception, so for me anywho really fucked music that's all about texture and tone is the only stuff that sounds good, but then it sounds just godly.
And it sounds like you smoke pot on DXM, if you have not you need to try it, it's awesome and one of the few times I'll smoke pot anymore.
Oh and BlueHues, lots of folks with nice stashes have done and will do DXM again, .

 

[dnkbudz420]

400-500mgs is what I'd suggest, unless you're listing to the early instrumental shit, then the textures can get pretty neat at higher doses. But for music with lyrics and structure that you're used to, yeah 2nd plateau is what you want. Higher doses really fuck up your sound perception, so for me anywho really fucked music that's all about texture and tone is the only stuff that sounds good, but then it sounds just godly.
And it sounds like you smoke pot on DXM, if you have not you need to try it, it's awesome and one of the few times I'll smoke pot anymore.
Oh and BlueHues, lots of folks with nice stashes have done and will do DXM again, .

I actually have the instrumental version of the dark side of the moon so ima be listening to that. You think 500mg is good for music like that? And still have a fun trip? I was going to do 700mg but I have a feeling that I will be to out of it to even be able to pay attention to the music that the guy said earlier. I'ma be doing it in a few hours and just want a good time and maybe learn some things and obviously I want the music euphoria as I love music and dxm makes it sound 10x better but it seems lower doses will help you enjoy it more. And yes every time I have tripped I have smoked some bud. Usually like 30 minutes after I swallow the pills to kinda help nausea but is it better to smoke as its coming on, during or before the trip? Last time the dxm came on so hard so fast I probably wouldn't even had thought to smoke some ganja. I smoke right before that tho. I've gone on a little tolerance break in the past week and this will be my first time smoking again tonight so obviously I'm guna be hella stoned haha I got some blue dream so 2 hits will probably get me surprisingly high or at least I hope cuz this tolerance break better have been worth it!

 

[GolemGolem]

I actually have the instrumental version of the dark side of the moon so ima be listening to that. You think 500mg is good for music like that? And still have a fun trip? And yes every time I have tripped I have smoked some bud. Usually like 30 minutes after I swallow the pills to kinda help nausea but is it better to smoke as its coming on, during or before the trip?. I've gone on a little tolerance break in the past week and this will be my first time smoking again tonight so obviously I'm guna be hella stoned haha I got some blue dream so 2 hits will probably get me surprisingly high or at least I hope cuz this tolerance break better have been worth it!

Yep, I think that would be a good call. Smoking as the DXM hits is the way to do it, so yeah you've been doing just as I would. Sounds like a blast.
But...Pills? Robogels? Or are you awesome and capping up some extracted DXM? If it's the Coricidin cough and cold, or anything else with extra active ingredients you wanna go get something else, the CPM can seriously fuck you over.

 

[dnkbudz420]

Yep, I think that would be a good call. Smoking as the DXM hits is the way to do it, so yeah you've been doing just as I would. Sounds like a blast.
But...Pills? Robogels? Or are you awesome and capping up some extracted DXM? If it's the Coricidin cough and cold, or anything else with extra active ingredients you wanna go get something else, the CPM can seriously fuck you over.

Yup my bad I'm using robogels. I wish I had pure dxm haha but I'm not taking that corcicidin shit