Does meth induced psychosis subside after sobriety?.

[letsparty]

I have a close friend that went off the deep end after she started using meth (mid 30s ) I mean it very quickly ruined her life in not much more then a year and the phycosis was extreme.. now she just got locked up for 16 months and I'm praying she can recover from it while she's incarcerated... Anyone experienced on this topic ?

I should add , before this bought with meth, she was not a drug user and had no apparent mental health problems..

 

[pixies+]

I have limited experience with meth. Thank god. The one girl I knew in a similar situation is lost. She’s never coming back. Poor girl.

I hope your friend is one of the lucky ones. I hope she’s able to recover. Anything is better than nothing.
The reality of it is rarely pleasant... unfortunately It’s important to remember though… especially if you want to keep this person in your life. Or be a light in her life. She’s going to need all the help she can get

 

[helpingout]

Yes

You do recover from amphetamine induced psychosis. Sometimes there are last changes in brain chemistry but for the most part, once stopping meth use/amphetamine use, the psychosis will stop. You’ll get the person back. They’ll have the fixation with meth. The likelihood to relapse. They might have a different personality. But the psychosis will stop and they’ll return to a relative level of rationality.

I saw this with many many people in rehab.

Some of them never dropped the awareness of meth and how it impacts them.

Other people never looked back.

 

[letsparty]

Thank you both . I just started sending her letters and I suppose on her return letters I'll be able to decipher her level of phycosis..Im planning on picking her up when she's released but just want to know what to expect..

 

[shreddedlettuce]

IME yes, after enough sleep and nutrients, yes it didn't subside, it went away. As long as I stayed away from the drug, I didn't even think about it anymore.

Good luck and best wishes.

 

[pixies+]

Meth psychosis will stop, yes.
Mental health issues will be a struggle for … quite some time. I believe that is fair to say.

I’m still struggling from my cocaine psychosis that went down in Jan 2023.
It’s mostly just a deep sort of depression I guess.. along with some ptsd and a large dose of anxiety. Some lingering paranoia for devices - well deserved if I do say so myself (fuck you very much to the cunt that blackmailed me for 9 months)
Not all from that episode, but that did a number on me. I question how much my brain really allows me to remember as a coping mechanism. Guess I’ll never know. Probably best I don’t.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Meth psychosis will stop, yes.
Mental health issues will be a struggle for … quite some time. I believe that is fair to say.

I’m still struggling from my cocaine psychosis that went down in Jan 2023.
It’s mostly just a deep sort of depression I guess.. along with some ptsd and a large dose of anxiety. Some lingering paranoia for devices - well deserved if I do say so myself (fuck you very much to the cunt that blackmailed me for 9 months)
Not all from that episode, but that did a number on me. I question how much my brain really allows me to remember as a coping mechanism. Guess I’ll never know. Probably best I don’t.

Sorry for the rambles.

well said and thank you for this addition.

 

[rentedbythehour]

I'm not sure why some people get psychosis and others don't. My ex got it really bad, the worst I've seen. It took about 6 months of not using for the voices in his head to quiet down enough that he could function. I believe he had a diagnosis of psychosis before he ever used though. It was rough. Really really rough living like that for 6 years. I wish your friend the best.

 

[letsparty]

I'm not sure why some people get psychosis and others don't. My ex got it really bad, the worst I've seen. It took about 6 months of not using for the voices in his head to quiet down enough that he could function. I believe he had a diagnosis of psychosis before he ever used though. It was rough. Really really rough living like that for 6 years. I wish your friend the best.

Yea that's insane to have to deal with for 6 years ..I had a friend from out of town crash at my place for three weeks and sober or on opiates he was fine but started smoking meth daily and would get paranoid with maybe a little phycosis mixed in and that was all I could deal with..I would ask him why he would put himself through that every day ...he would stop for a day then back to it .. I watched him stand at peek out of the blinds one night for hours only ducking down when a car came by and swearing the cops where after him ....one night he called me in a panic because he walked out of a circle K and saw a tow truck parked on the street and said they where there to impound his car ...I hauled ass to the store and it wasn't even a tow truck....
Would come home to find him hours later hiding in a closet scaring the shit outta me ... It was to much

 

[pixies+]

Yea that's insane to have to deal with for 6 years ..I had a friend from out of town crash at my place for three weeks and sober or on opiates he was fine but started smoking meth daily and would get paranoid with maybe a little phycosis mixed in and that was all I could deal with..I would ask him why he would put himself through that every day ...he would stop for a day then back to it .. I watched him stand at peek out of the blinds one night for hours only ducking down when a car came by and swearing the cops where after him ....one night he called me in a panic because he walked out of a circle K and saw a tow truck parked on the street and said they where there to impound his car ...I hauled ass to the store and it wasn't even a tow truck....
Would come home to find him hours later hiding in a closet scaring the shit outta me ... It was to much

He was “keeping six”
I hated the compulsion it gave to me to peek out the windows for hours and on. I knew it was illogical.. my mind wouldn’t allow me to break away. I wasn’t scared of the cops… I was just .. waiting for something to happen I guess. When you stare long enough you see shadows that aren’t there, which adds to the insanity of it all.

Sorry for your friend. You were trying to help. But only so much can be done before it becomes enabling and unhealthy for each person in their own ways.

 

[Morvern Kallar]

I’m from a country where we say, “Thanks for locking up my brother — now he’ll be able to go through withdrawal.” And yes, it’s a real chance to realize things, a real chance not to go back to it.

 

[letsparty]

I’m from a country where we say, “Thanks for locking up my brother — now he’ll be able to go through withdrawal.” And yes, it’s a real chance to realize things, a real chance not to go back to it.

It's always on my mind how the system can be of help to people that are to far down to help themselves..
Obviously noone should be jailed for being addicted but what if , rather then jail if they where for whatever reason arrested, , a judge gave em an option of mandatory 90 day rehab ..they would not be able to leave like most rehabs but finish 90 days then hopefully, clear headed , they could be helped with resources from the state... Just a rando thought ..

 

[pixies+]

It's always on my mind how the system can be of help to people that are to far down to help themselves..
Obviously noone should be jailed for being addicted but what if , rather then jail if they where for whatever reason arrested, , a judge gave em an option of mandatory 90 day rehab ..they would not be able to leave like most rehabs but finish 90 days then hopefully, clear headed , they could be helped with resources from the state... Just a rando thought ..

It’s a step in the right direction.

However… then what? People need to be cared for and loved. Sadly… few get the help they deserve. It’s a sad world my friend.

I swear I’m not always so negative. It’s getting harder and harder to find the positives though. Sigh.

 

[letsparty]

It’s a step in the right direction.

However… then what? People need to be cared for and loved. Sadly… few get the help they deserve. It’s a sad world my friend.

I swear I’m not always so negative. It’s getting harder and harder to find the positives though. Sigh.

No.I fully agree.... I just see the problem getting worse nationwide and I don't think anyone really knows what to do. Police are fed up dealing with homeless addicts, the state has allocated. Massive amounts of funds to the money grubbing rehabs cycling folks in and out with only single digit success rates .... I absolutely think many folks would recover if they had help getting the ball rolling ...a few months clean would be a start .
Maybe more of them would take advantage of available resources if they didn't have to use Evey bit of the day trying to score and not be sick and shut down
...we all know that you can't do anything productive in withdrawal

 

[pixies+]

I’ve stopped trying to believe things will get better.
Though I appreciate those that have honest hearts and want to try.

 

[rentedbythehour]

onWould come home to find him hours later hiding in a closet scaring the shit outta me ... It was to much

I actually would have understood that behavior. He was the guy who heard voices in his head. He wouldn't even hear me talking to him, he would get so occupied by them. I tell everyone this story cause it's a little funny, but also not at all. One day we were laying in bed. He jumped up all of a sudden and just took off. I mean left the house. His best friend lived about a 5 minute walk from us. He ran to his best friends house, basically yelling at him that he needed to evacuate. He was frantic, we have to go now type of thing. He said there was a gas leak and everyone needed to leave the area immediately. Keep in mind this is a weekend day, people are outside, going about their business. He saw none of that. He SAW the gas leak. That's just one example. He would hear people breaking into the house, trying to drill out the door knob, the voices were the worst. He would talk back to them all night while laying in bed. That drove me crazy. He went thru phases where he was telepathically communicating with our neighbors or friends, or it was angels and demons trying to get him to do stuff. Some of it was scary. Imagine laying in bed at night and just hearing 'bitch' being whispered behind you. He thought every one he knew, including people he'd known his entire life were DEA and out to get him. The same cars/trucks were constantly following him. He accused me of having an affair with his gay best friend (male). That's more normal stuff I think from someone who gets psychosis but man. He was actually 100% sober when we broke up. Stopped on his own.

 

[rentedbythehour]

Reading what you guys were saying about the state of things not getting any better. I'm going to assume you're in the States. I know this might not be the most appropriate place for it but it goes along with what you were saying. I'm curious if you've read the order about homelessness and what the plans are for the next few years. I'm curious what your thoughts are.

Ending Crime and Disorder on America's Streets

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose and

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I believe that about 15% of people have to deal with psychotic symptoms in the long-term after stimulant-induced psychosis. Can source that.

 

[letsparty]

Reading what you guys were saying about the state of things not getting any better. I'm going to assume you're in the States. I know this might not be the most appropriate place for it but it goes along with what you were saying. I'm curious if you've read the order about homelessness and what the plans are for the next few years. I'm curious what your thoughts are.

Ending Crime and Disorder on America's Streets

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose and

www.whitehouse.gov

I read it ..looks good on paper but I don't trust Trump to do anything the way he says...he's been proven a liar since before he was in office.. the laws on his order are already in place in most states so the only thing I foresee happening is our tax dollars paying for military and cops handling it like they / Ice handled the immigration issue ..

 

[Psychlone Jack]

The answer to this question for myself was: yes, but holy God does it take some time and a whole lot of work.

I went through a mega-relapse on methamphetamine last year, just over a year on from having completed 12 months parole (following a 7 year bid). I attempted a move across state, to a town I had a lot of history with. It didn't work out - not only did the psychological cracks start to show in the few weeks that I was there, but I relapsed as well. I came back home, stayed with family a while, but I also brought an ounce of crystal back with me. It was an absolute hellish two months of use, including an involuntary committal and culminating in my homelessness.

Once I stopped, though, the psychosis didn't. I was still dealing with residual delusions of people following me, grand conspiracies hatched against me, voices and psychotic narratives that just completely dominated my life, even while I tried to lay the blocks to rebuild it. It was terrible. I tried to commit suicide while I was using, and I tried after I quit for that precise reason - the psychosis didn't, and I thought that was my new reality. I was crazy, but just sane enough to know it. Pure hell. But slowly - and I do mean slllloooowwwllyy - and with a hell of a lot of work, much of it rooted in past CBT/RBT training, I was able to rebuild healthy thought processes and behaviors in my day to day, just constantly and incessantly bolstering and reinforcing myself TO myself, inundating my head with a stream of Positive Self Talk. I found over time that if I changed my foremost thoughts to align with positivity, the voices started talking positive too, and I realized the whole time, I was the voice... hard to explain and I'm sure I'm doing a bad job of it lol, and I hate to sound like the whole 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps' thing, but all I'm saying is... for myself, just putting my head down and working, working, trusting the process of it all, both internally and externally, but this:

With faith, time and ambition, everything's gonna be aight.