Stimulants does meth dissolve better in PG or VG oil?

[Brutal BMW Driver]

Hello,

I have been vaping meth recently to try and get off the pipe, (i know u technically vape it in the pipe too) but yeah with a vaporizer i find i can compulsively smoke but not put too much in so i dont get as wasted. Im using a high end nicotine personal vaporizer, just had a few q's.

Is it better to use PG or VG oil?

Is it better to use oil with nicotine or without (not concerned about nicotine intake but more whether it helps with delivering/dissolving the meth)

Is it better to use single or dual coil heads?

Thanks for your advice.

 

[tacodude]

Use no nicotine and get ae juice cart that holds a bunch of juice.

 

[spacejunk]

Do you really think this will work?

IME the only way to stop using meth is to simply stop using meth.

Have you ever had that experience where you 'get on' - and it just doesn't hit the spot?
Where you feel unpleasantly wired and irritable - and the only way to fix it is to have more?
When I used to take meth many years ago (and didnt have a lot of money) I experienced this fairly often, when I didnt have enough.
Personally this is the only outcome I can see in attempting a 'reduction' method like this.

Tapering makes sense with opiates, benzos, alcohol, nicotine and a bunch of other physically habit forming substances, but I think meth is a different beast. You can puff away on tiny amounts all day; but you won't get that dopamine rush that your brain desires, I'm afraid, and I feel that this may be a waste of time/money/effort.

If you have the resources to test it out and prove me wrong - by all means, do so and report back - but I honesty think the best way to escape the addictive nature of meth/amphetamine is to abstain from using it and doing all you can to distract yourself.
Yes, you may feel sluggish and lacking in motivation, depressed, bored or whatever - but unlike a physically dependent drug user, I don't think taking small doses throughout the day will help wean you off it - in fact, if be surprised if it didnt increase your cravings.

As for solubility...meth is highly soluble in water, but Im not sure about propylene or vegetable glycol.

I think a more realistic plan for getting free of the meth monkey is to focus on diet, non-drug stimulation (hobbies, exercise or whatever tickles yer pickle) - but as for e-cigs....I can't imagine it would be that effective.

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but my knowledge and experience of meth is that it differs to other addictions, and often I think taking "not enough" is worse than "none at all".

 

[Ksa]

Hello,

I have been vaping meth recently to try and get off the pipe, (i know u technically vape it in the pipe too) but yeah with a vaporizer i find i can compulsively smoke but not put too much in so i dont get as wasted. Im using a high end nicotine personal vaporizer, just had a few q's.

Is it better to use PG or VG oil?

Is it better to use oil with nicotine or without (not concerned about nicotine intake but more whether it helps with delivering/dissolving the meth)

Is it better to use single or dual coil heads?

Thanks for your advice.

Won't work to stop using, it's not like using subs to get off Heroin. Methamphetamine is the worst taper to get off methamphetamine when it comes to chances of success. Not only the nearest milligram worth of effect will trigger cravings, but the very thought of doing meth, or having meth in your possession, can trigger cravings on its own. I always think about my dog at breakfast, I have not yet taken any food out of the fridge, and as soon as I cling the forks or knives, the dog is at my feet begging. It's a powerful mechanism you don't want to trigger in any way. That is, if you want to stay off it.

You are not the first who tried to use amphetamines to taper off amphetamines. People have tried creative shit you couldn't even think about, like, crushing amphetamines together with Clonidine in 10mg/0.1mg ratios so they would not abuse it, given it's nearly impossible to separate once mixed...they ended up taking the whole thing anyways. It's just not possible.

Quit cold turkey, drink plenty of water to flush that shit off your system, eat some vegetables, nice meals and get some exercise. You will experience no withdrawals other than fatigue, for the first month. Coffee and nicotine helps a lot.

 

[tacodude]

I do agree there's no tapering with meth just quitting. You will do what you do though

 

[bobjayne]

IME the only way to stop using meth is to simply stop using meth

Nowhere has the OP stated they want to quit meth. Simply cut out/down on the glass dick.

Coulda saved yourself all that typing

 

[Brutal BMW Driver]

OK Damn, truth be told I was addicted to opiates and have only used meth a handful of times in my life until now, just bought some about 2 weeks ago and made the switch from oxy to meth, and I am enjoying it much more, I have only been vaping it and have been satisfied with the results but there is always room for improvement. I dont get any dopamine rush or whatever, just a mild stimulation that is quite satisfying and productive, also a nice change from the oxy, i can actually get shit done on this stuff.

 

[InvisibleEye]

Quit cold turkey, drink plenty of water to flush that shit off your system, eat some vegetables, nice meals and get some exercise. You will experience no withdrawals other than fatigue, for the first month. Coffee and nicotine helps a lot.

QFT. I would suggest adding weed to the coffee-nicotine combo. I was a daily meth user (meth pills) and weed helped me tremendously with the cravings. It slowly brought me back to reality. Weed also took my attention away from the fatigue in the first couple of weeks.

 

[spacejunk]

OK Damn, truth be told I was addicted to opiates and have only used meth a handful of times in my life until now, just bought some about 2 weeks ago and made the switch from oxy to meth, and I am enjoying it much more, I have only been vaping it and have been satisfied with the results but there is always room for improvement. I dont get any dopamine rush or whatever, just a mild stimulation that is quite satisfying and productive, also a nice change from the oxy, i can actually get shit done on this stuff.

Meth can be really deceptively subtle - like thinking you're not that fucked up, when with the value of hindsight, you're out of your mind!
IME anyway. Play safe