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Does ketamine over-ride your acid trip?

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Read on erowid, that ket doesn't combine well with other drugs (Not the nasty downers like alky and benzos and other tranqs, but LSD, MDMA, meth and nitrous) because of the totality of its nature. Others claim that it combines with acid with a beautiful amount of synergy. So what's the deal? At what dosages (nasal method) does ketamine begin to overide other drugs such as acid?
 
I think it's a matter of delicately balancing your synergies. Ketamine tends to totally whomp everything when you take too high a dose, in my experience, but saying how much before it affects your 'acid' will really be dependent on how much acid YOU take to have a pleasant acid experience. The person who takes 1/4 of a trip and feels giggly may need a tiny amount of K before they notice that it's taking over, while the person who's happy to eat 6-10 trips and watch the world melt might need a decent whack of K to get spun by it.
My advice would be if you're experimenting with synergies, always start low. With lower doses of acid sometimes the trip can be quite delicate, so teensy bumps of K will give you something to do til you start enjoying yourself. At least if you to a little bit much, the K will wear off within an hour, and the acid should still be going strong.
NB: I'd suggest starting at below half the 'familiar' dose of either chemical you're going to try to combine.
BigTrancer :)
 
Not really familiar with K (only nasty rip-off K bombs), the acid is of no concern, so what, say about 1/3 of a point divided into bumps spaced out of course?
 
in my experience, consisting of a total number of k/acid poly use exactly once.
i wouldn't do it again. fuck'd up.
that being said. set and setting played a fairly big part. but i still think the k/acid combo was overriding any set/setting problems.
for reference it was 2/3's of a getafix and 3 points of k about half an hour after.
 
Not a K buff but that sounds like to much horse tranq, the 1/3 of the point i was talking about was to begin with. Where's mona i wanted to hear her 5 cents!
 
Ketamine is a powerful anesthetic and in my experience higher doses override the effects of other chemicals you may have indegested.
However at lower doses.. say between 50-100mg.. it seems to complement some substances quite well.
As with any drug, experiment, start low. Don't aim to get totally off the planet on your first try with the combo. Both chemicals can be used as powerful pshychadelics so it's within your interests to find out what's the most comfortable path for you to take.
I'd also suggest that even if you find the general consensus is that large doses of both are what is desired, take a more steady lower dose pathway to find out exactly where that point is within yourself or you might find yourself regretting it when it's too late.
[ 23 March 2002: Message edited by: ruski ]
 
K, acid, mdxx and pot = the biggest paranoia i've had but then again I guess I was asking for it...
 
Never fear, mona is here!
teehee
Maybe it doesn't answer the questions, but this reply gives you a bit more insight into the K and Acid thing as experienced by meh.
ok. well.. I can't really tell you how much K I consumed over the night, I was dipping into a bag that had about 4g and it lasted a while so I never really kept exact track of my dosages.
Whilst on Acid I found that I required far smaller bumps than I would have if I were having K with pills, or just alone. Perhaps acid increases K's sensitivity, and vice versa.
I definitely would not have more than a bump for the first try. You can always add more, you can't take away (duh). I reckon I was bumping every half hour or so for a few hours during my trip. However, once again, the bumps were performed using the end of a butter knife, and majority of our time was spent in semi darkness (on my friend's roof admiring the night sky off our chops :) ) so the bumps varied slightly and I DID notice differences. So yeah less is best and increase gradually by small increments if you need more.
As for whether it will crowd the trip. NO WAY! If you get your dosage right (and you will because all you need to remember is little BUMP)it will highly intensify your trip. The key is, as BT said - finding YOUR balance. This is mine, it works for me - however if you're predisposed to flipping out on acid, I wouldn't recommend it. It was overall a pretty overwhelming experience (physically AND mentally).
Physically, I felt like something out of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, you know when they do the ether and stagger into the casino, well it was never THAT bad, but co-ordination was poor and I had difficulties in expressing myself a few times (don't we all?).
Things will become more colourful, you'll take on K Space Walk :) , I felt an amazing connection with the 2 other people who were accompanying me on the K acid trip. At one point we all met in the kitchen at exactly the same time and just went in for a group hug without so much of a word to each other. We were laffing and hugging and jumping up and down screaming about how GOOD it was!?! I almost cried a mixture of laffter and happiness tears! (Crazy I know) It is still the most poignant drug moment of my life :)
I know this sounds really corny, but by just observing my other friends who were all tripping at the same house party, each doing their individual thing - I felt totally at peace there with them and felt a very strong sense of my place in the whole scheme.
I have never felt such total enjoyment, absolute pleasure and total excellent fuckedness as from K and Acid. In a good way, excellent visuals - I saw crazy neon red/green and blue wired computer circuitry boards in the sky and the twinkling stars were the circuit joiner thingies! I felt like Alice in Wonderland, like a little kid in a cartoon :)
Mind you. The comedown was shocking. That could have been the acid or the K. Pretty sure it was mainly attributed to the acid though. These gettafixes (april 2001) had a really heavy bodyload, and it didn't totally sit right in my stomach the whole time. I'd like to give Liquid a go with K. I reckon I could just about die and go to heaven on that :)
Whoa. That was huge! :) :)
Disclaimer: I do not endorse the consumption of illegal narcotics.
[ 23 March 2002: Message edited by: mona ]
 
As Daryl Eastlake would say "SENSATIONAL STUFF!"
thanx mona :)
Damn if only i waited, oh well that was yesterday all my liquid seems so far away! Yarra Bend kicks ass!
 
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