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Does holding pot smoke in lungs make you higher?

I've heard 27 seconds for optimum, but you have to realize there are diminishing returns after a certain point... depending on how big a rip you take... after 7-11 seconds it just isn't worth fucking up your lungs.

Vaporizer? I'll hold it in 20-30 seconds...

Bongs, bowls... hold it in shorter.
 
like druggest said, just keep sucking in oxygen after taking a rip to get all the smoke in your lungs.. you know you did it right when you breath out and it takes about a second before you start to see smoke
 
I think:

The reason you get higher when you get a huge hit and cough is simply that you just inhaled such a large amount of 'THC smoke' that your lungs couldn't possibly hold it all and cough it back out. It's an overwhelming amount, basically. Not only do you cough, but your eyes tear and eyelids involutarily close halfway.

To me, the feeling I get when I take a huge hit feels in every way like I just took a huge hit.

This is just my crazy theorizing, I'd really like to know if the same thing happens with large vapor hits...
 
On a side note, I do think that lack of oxygen from smoking MJ gives you 'effects', but the 'lack of oxygen effect' is certainley not a celebrated part of my marijuana 'high'.
 
ice-9 said:
"Increasing" your high could just be due to the lightheadedness caused by lack of oxygen to the lungs.
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But what about the myth/opinion of inhaling air before/during/after you take a hit. Most people have a tendency to feel higher.
 
Greenliving, your theory has some rather blazing, if you forgive the pun, errors, THC does NOT bind to haemoglobin (good thing too, else it might well act as a chemical asphyxiant in a similar manner to CO, cyanides/cyanogen or azides depending on how tightly it bound), instead THC is approximately 99% bound to plasma proteins after intake.
 
Yeah I've proven the answer to this question to be "yes" over and over again to myself. One giant hit held as long as possible is the formula for maximum height. It's also the formula for minimal tolerance -- in healthcare this is called an attack dose.

Of course, holding smoke longer does more lung damage too.
 
I've been smoking copious amounts of marijuana for several years, and in my experience holding doesn't really increase the high. I thought it did for the first year or so I smoked and indeed did "notice" a better high. I got that harm reduction pamphlet and saw that statistic, however, and started inhaling on count one, exhaling a second later on count two. I've noticed no difference in my highs, really.

One exception. I was out with my friends for about half an hour before I had to eat dinner and I took a single hit that I held for probably 20-30 seconds. I had been smoking the same bud for a while and it generally took a bowl to get me toasted, but that single hit got me about as high.
 
chernobyl said:
But what about the myth/opinion of inhaling air before/during/after you take a hit. Most people have a tendency to feel higher.
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Smoke that rests in the trachea and maybe the upper lungs gets fully absorbed when you do this.

This is a question that's been asked over and over again haha, the answer is yes but the general opinion seems to be that holding it longer than 3 seconds has more cons than pros (obviously breathing it in and out in 1 second is going to get you less high).

What others said about oxygen deprivation and heart rating increasing is true but I don't think that this practice is optimal. I personally wouldn't have the patience to hold it in that long.
 
MaxBoost said:
That's why when you give people a shotgun, the smoke has to come from your mouth, and you can't inhale it and give them the leftovers cus they will be getting smoke with no THC.
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I dont think thats true. I've given shotguns to my girlfriend after I inhaled them and held for 2 seconds and she got red eyed and pretty high. I think its the cannibinoids, they are pretty important in the high too
 
Blowmonkey said:
i think we all have had some of these moments, when you take a monstrous hit and have to cough really bad for a long time. this always makes us higher than that we usually get from such a hit when we don't cough. i think it has something to do with the lack of oxygen. maybe it is when someone coughs or when they hold their smoke in, that their hart is going to beat faster, letting the blood flow more rapidly, letting the thc spread faster, thus, making us higher as usual. i usually am very stoned for a very short time after a good cough (still makin sense, with rapid absorbtion, the high usually lasts shorter time). it is logical when i think of it, but it's just something that crossed my mind, so i'm not too sure about it. :)
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Coughing opens the pores in your lungs, allowing for easier absorption of anything that is in there.

I find that if I smoke some nice nugget, and cough my fuckin arse off.. one cone is enough to get me ripped. but it is quite infrequent that you come across nugs that will do that ;)
 
sonicnature said:
Coughing opens the pores in your lungs, allowing for easier absorption of anything that is in there.

I find that if I smoke some nice nugget, and cough my fuckin arse off.. one cone is enough to get me ripped. but it is quite infrequent that you come across nugs that will do that ;)
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It opens "pores" in your lungs. What the hell are you talking about. If you are going to make something up about human physiology why don't you atleast use proper terminology. The correct term for a "pocket" in your lung is an alveoli.

Oh and the other shit about opening up alveoli, thats totally untrue. If I need to explain why, I will, but judging by the intelligence of the discussion of this thread it wouldn't be understood.

Diffusion isn't really the limiting component here, not because it is a "vapor" like some tard suggested, but rather the huge surface area of your lungs. This great surface area and small volume of dead space makes for very rapid gas/blood transfer.

3 seconds will do the trick. Anything longer than that you are asking for smoke crash and resulting bronchitis.
 
i thoiught it did, but ive just learned from readin thid thread that thc is absorbed instantly, so holding just harms your lungs.
 
Solution: vaporize. Then you can hold it as long as you feel you need to without fear of tars accumulating in your lungs.

My opinion is that the holding for as long as you can myth is psychological. 3-5 seconds should be enough for plenty of absorbtion. But I have some friends and a girlfriend who refuse to exhale until they're about to pass out from lack of oxygen. I'm pretty sure it's the lack of oxygen that's giving them that extra rush, though... not the extra cannabinoid absorbtion.
 
Xorkoth said:
Solution: vaporize. Then you can hold it as long as you feel you need to without fear of tars accumulating in your lungs.
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well somethin else sure does accumulate, and it's about as uncomfortable to have inside as it is to have tar
 
thujone said:
well somethin else sure does accumulate, and it's about as uncomfortable to have inside as it is to have tar
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What's that? If you're vaporizing properly, only vaporized cannabinoids are present, which get absorbed directly into your body through the lungs and don't accumulate at all.
 
Xorkoth said:
What's that? If you're vaporizing properly, only vaporized cannabinoids are present, which get absorbed directly into your body through the lungs and don't accumulate at all.
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You are suggesting there is NOTHING with a lower vaporization point than THC that is harmful?

I would question that.
 
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