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Does cannabis make a difference to your reaction time?

hashish2020 said:
"I won't listen to facts because you said whatever."

You, my friend, are a moron.
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Yes I am.
But I still won't listen to your facts ... because you called me a moron hahaha

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I wrote something that I realized was going a little too far, so ... thank God for the edit function.
 
hashish2020 said:
All scientific data? Did you even look at any studies? They are split, at worst, on stoned driving.
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About all I have seen is decrease in reaction time - not sure I ever saw a study indicating improvemed reaction time...

--- G.
 
Funny how easy it is to get people to believe stuff they read in polls/statistics eh?
Anyway,
i personally think its down to how much you yourself can take and how used you are to the drug, theres no point in arguing over whos wrong and whos right without listening to someone elses views cos thats just pathetic IMO, the fact is studies dont prove a damn f'in thing if you ask me. People are to paranoid about this sort of thing, especially americans(not all of you but most) and the reason? cos of all the 'drug is bad' rubbish on american tv, ive witnessed it myself cos we got fox news here in the UK(and that has to be the most paranoid most boring dullest right-wing shit channel ever)not to say we dont get that sort of stuff over here to, its just more active overthere, if you get what i mean.
Bottom line is, some people are saying 1) it makes them drive more easily and freely, or 2) there reaction time is nonexistant, i thinkl the reason why some people say there reaction is slower/nonexistant is cos they either havent smoked in a long time(which one person admitted to in this thread) or they just dont know their limitations that well.
I think under the influence of drinking n driving has more of a chance of killing someone rather than being stoned, but thats from my own personal opinion...
 
I still don't understand how people expect to go about measuring their own reaction time - all I have heard so far is "I felt this" and "I'm sure that".

When lives are on the line I like to actually know what is going on neurologically speaking.

--- G.
 
Morrison's Lament said:
I still don't understand how people expect to go about measuring their own reaction time - all I have heard so far is "I felt this" and "I'm sure that".

When lives are on the line I like to actually know what is going on neurologically speaking.

--- G.
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That should sum it all up.
CLOSE. It seems obvious that the ones that didn't drive stoned before reading this aren't going to start (no, even if you show them those great facts and call them morons) and the ones that are risking peoples lives everyday are not going to stop just because we're all telling them to.
 
When stoned, I find that is it pretty easy to concentrate on one task at a time.. and do a pretty good job at it. But as multi-tasking comes to play.. it's like yuor head has Windows installed.. this can be something as small as changing a CD while driving that could totally fuck up your concentration..

But I do agree with bluedolphin a fair bit.. I smoke every day and I love going to work stoned.. I can do everything I normally do and don't hate old cunts as much.

But yeah.. smoking while driving.. I sure don't recommend it.. and don't do it myself. But I know a fair few amount of people that can drive stoned or not, in fact, them driving stoned is always alot less scarier.. the paranopia kicks in that you could actually crash.. ;-)
 
Morrison's Lament said:
But isn't the bottom line that no one can accurately judge for themselves if they are impaired or not? So far this is an argument between subjective personal assesment such as "I think I drive better stoned" versus all scientific data pointing the other direction.
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exactly. i hate to generalise but people who say "i actually drive better stoned because i'm more wary (or whatever)" seem to me to just be rationalising.

alasdair
 
Morrison's Lament said:
About all I have seen is decrease in reaction time - not sure I ever saw a study indicating improvemed reaction time...
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do you mean increase in reaction time? increased reaction time means poor reaction time (it takes you longer to react)
 
Gerr UT said:
There is no doubt that herb slows down reaction times, and anyone who says different is lying or smokes some crapy herb.
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^
Thats not true, everyone is different
 
Show me a man who's pupils dilate on heroin, then, if everyone is totally different ;)

There are some physiological realities that no one can escape.

--- G.
 
I lost my best friend as a child to some kids who were driving fucked up on weed. If your gonna get fucked up that's great but don't risk other people's lives because you choose to risk yours. Get a DD or stay where your at. It's not worth it. I love to party but I never drive when I am high. or drunk.

peace
 
The fact is everyone is different for example when im in the same car as my dad and hes driving high i feel alot safer,he admittedly feels the same..
 
alasdairm said:
just because you feel ok to drive, doesn't mean you are. you would surely laugh in the face of a drinker who declared themselves ok to drive because they "feel fine"?

there's a world of difference between thinking you can drive well and actually driving well.
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well said, couldn't have said it better.

everybody who thinks cannabis may improve your reaction time should take another look at these pages (i'm stealing them morrison:)) : http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_driving.shtml

http://www.drugtext.org/library/reports/cancan/vol1/repfinalvol1-e/css/repfinalvol1-e_201.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/driving/s16p2.htm

if you've read those figures through and still think otherwise i'm happy to see your own scientific study on this, good luck !! ;)
 
Or maybe you could read this one too that states cannabis is the only drug likely to reduce your chances of having a significant accident.
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n1161/a02.html

And that study from the erowid page, the one in New Scientist, clearly states,
n the study, cannabis significantly affected only one criterion, known as tracking ability.
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while alcohol came off far worse.

Just out of interest, I've had a license 10 years, constantly smoke dope, good dope, better dope than you've got, and I've never had an accident. And I know a hell of a lot of people like me. I also know shitloads who can't drink and drive to save their lives. Because that is dangerous.
 
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Blowmonkey said:
well said, couldn't have said it better.

everybody who thinks cannabis may improve your reaction time should take another look at these pages (i'm stealing them morrison:)) : http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_driving.shtml

http://www.drugtext.org/library/reports/cancan/vol1/repfinalvol1-e/css/repfinalvol1-e_201.htm

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/driving/s16p2.htm

if you've read those figures through and still think otherwise i'm happy to see your own scientific study on this, good luck !! ;)
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I take it this is comin from teh paranoid americans that we have on bluelight, yes?
 
^^ huh..?

StoneHappyMonday said:
Or maybe you could read this one too that states cannabis is the only drug likely to reduce your chances of having a significant accident.
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n1161/a02.html

And that study from the erowid page, the one in New Scientist, clearly states,


while alcohol came off far worse.

Just out of interest, I've had a license 10 years, constantly smoke dope, good dope, better dope than you've got, and I've never had an accident. And I know a hell of a lot of people like me. I also know shitloads who can't drink and drive to save their lives. Because that is dangerous.
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Stonedhappymonday, have you noticed how that article uses the word "may" throughout the whole study (even in the title). And the quote:

Although the cannabis affected reaction time in regular users, its effects appear to be substantially less dangerous than fatigue or drinking.
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Makes it even more clear that Cannabis has an adverse effect on the drivers' reaction time. The comparison with alcohol doesn't prove anything, alcohol use is far worse as Cannabis use when driving, that doesn't mean that Cannabis is going to be helping you when you're about to hit a tree.. Slowing down reaction time will only do more harm then it does good.
 
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