Does brain heal...

[greenmeanies]

how's your personal life? how many hours of daylight do you get? i assume you're in the northern hemisphere, so it's been dark and wintery for a while now, right? S.A.D. is real and could be related to melatonin levels, vitamin D, and who knows what else. if you don't get good downtime, you body can't heal, so your brain will suffer.

 

[killermunchies]

This really is the best forum for stuff like this. Most people in the medical community won't know how to deal with LSD related issues. If you went on some doctor forum, they would probably just tell you not to use drugs and call you an idiot for using illegal drugs. You could always try though. Of all the drug forums I've been to, the people here are generally the most knowledgeable of the science behind drugs. Medically, there is no universally accepted treatment for what you describe. Your best bet would be to see a psychiatrist with substance abuse experience. After I got busted, I started meeting with my substance abuse counselor to help my case. If I had the same problems you are facing, that's where I would bring it up. My counselor is very knowledgeable of drugs and brain chemistry. There are some though that just spew propaganda and will just say that drugs destroy people. If you go this route, try to find a good one.

You'll be fine though with time. People mess themselves up with drugs that actually cause brain damage way worse than you and most of them recover with out much permanent change. You could also look into some sort of counseling geared to hypochondriacs. I'm not saying that you're making this up, but worrying this much about it is only making it worse. You are the only one that can fix the problems you're having. There are no drugs or medical procedures that will automatically resolve your issue.

 

[bluffythefluffy]

Lysergic acid diethylamide doesn't cause brain damage!

If you have seen studies that indicate LSD causes brain damage then please share them with us.

This is not some super secret drug. It is relatively well studied.

5HT2A receptor agonists actually appear to improve brain/mental functioning in many studies.

You have to realize that you are simply experiencing anxiety/paranoia surrounding your LSD experience.

There is no physical change.

 

[mrdocat]

NOW! For instance! I just woke up with one of the worst feelings that I ever felt. I can't describe this but it is really bad, I simply don't know what it is and it started when I took LSD. Man what's that. WTF.

EDIT: Oh god what was that. That happens almost every night. I wake up feeling really weird sensation on my head like I'm dying and with surreal thoughts. Please someone explain that event. This night I managed to think good things and it calmed me down. I was thinking 'dont worry <myself> I have an idea, a remedy combination will heal you'. That made sense for me, so I calmed down and managed to sleep. But seriously what the fuck is that?

 

[alantis360]

troll

 

[Spoken Word]

this guy's full of shit.

 

[readthenewsohboy]

The biggest issue here is that the operations of the brain are poorly understood, we can recognize correlation between activity and subjective experience, but the actual mechanism by which particles in motion become subjective individual experience is not understood. You experienced a radically altered subjective perception that many people find to be quite profound or jarring, and you feel affected. You want a medical understanding of what has occured, I understand that, but there is not a doctor on the planet who can offer that to you. Think of the accolades and support that a doctor who could prove and explain how lsd damages or alters the brain would recieve, how far that information would be distrubuted in the war on drugs. The simple truth is that how these experiences, or any human experience, is constructed isn't understood. Now you're in an interesting spot, as far as modern medical science can tell, LSD is not neurotoxic, so you can either believe on a gut feeling that you're broken and need medicine or surgery that doesn't exist, or you can get wrist deep in your own thoughts and try to figure out how this experience brought out this change in you, and what you can do to make yourself happier, more motivated, and perform better in the areas of your life you feel affected in.

 

[SecondPull]

NOW! For instance! I just woke up with one of the worst feelings that I ever felt. I can't describe this but it is really bad, I simply don't know what it is and it started when I took LSD. Man what's that. WTF.

That's called 'anxiety,' and you're doing it to yourself.

 

[swilow]

Jeepers, guys, why is this place turning into a bunch of crude youtube-style comments?

Just because the OP is experiencing something that YOU may not have doesn't mean that he's "full of shit".

NOW! For instance! I just woke up with one of the worst feelings that I ever felt. I can't describe this but it is really bad, I simply don't know what it is and it started when I took LSD. Man what's that. WTF.

I'd agree that you are feeling anxiety. Its a very common result of psychedelic trups. In its acute form, its really crippling, but it forces you to find a means to cope with the general weirdness of life; in the long-term, "feeling bad" often has a positive effect. If you consider a near death experience, and the oft-reported rejuvinating excitement that follows such a second chance, then we can see that what feels negative can have truly positive effects. You just need to realise that you are okay.

Read this and see what you think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anxiety#Existential_anxiety

The pain of being human.

 

[dpounder]

Everyone here probably knows SWIM was changed after a single LSD trip. Everyone here probably hates SWIM for not accepting it's changes, but SWIM doesn't think he's 'spiritually evolved'. He just fell he's a bit drug retard. He can live with that. But he got such an intense life, he's coursing a very hard course at university and he needs it's full brain potential for that. So SWIM wonders if his brain will ever heal. SWIM isn't asking advises. He seeks an explanation. He strongly believes it all has to do with brain chemistry. SWIM realized, though, here's not the better place to ask this. So he wonders if anyone here know a good forum with good specialists in brain and stuff where SWIM can ask his questions?

Your in university and you still type like that?

 

[dpounder]

Yes, here's good place to get general advises. OK. I've already said thanks many times. And when I didn't believe in any answer? Never said so, did I? But I said I don't think my brain is damaged, didn't I? I said I think I'll be better. Didn't I?

I just want a more scientific feedback now. Nothing else. This is not the place for it.

Can't understand you guys complaining.

It's because you don't shut up. You have all the answers your going to get, and they are as accurate as possible.

 

[mrdocat]

I type like that because english is not my main language.

Sorry for the despair when I woke up. Please recommend me a good forum about neurology.

EDIT
readthenewsohboy
... I know. That scares me. I don't think it'll be easy to figure out what I have, but who knows. Maybe a real good neurologist, those genius, can have a hint. I just know what if I don't try, if I give up... it's just like giving up. I also want to know if I'll be myself again. You said I got perfectly clear answers but I got some people saying I'd be OK in 1 day, in 2, in 3. Time passed and I'm not OK! Also got some people said I'll never be OK, other said I'll be OK in 6 months. But no reasoning, they just said. If at least everyone said the same thing without reasoning I'd have what to believe, but that's not even the case. Everyone says something different. I'm completely lost.


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I though I was improving but this night it happened again, I can't believe, SHIT, I can't stand it anymore. I WANT TO BE MYSELF AGAIN. I'm offering U$2000,00 to whoever finds out what I have (and that means giving me a good physiological explanation for this) or to whoever helps me achieve a definitive improvement (for instance linking me to somewhere or to a real good doctor that'll know what to do with me). I'll pay whenever I'm 100% or almost 100%. I know that's not much for you but it's what I can offer here. I'm serious. Please help.

 

[RainbowWarrior]

I'm offering U$2000,00 to whoever finds out what I have (and that means giving me a good physiological explanation for this) or to whoever helps me achieve a definitive improvement (for instance linking me to somewhere or to a real good doctor that'll know what to do with me). I'll pay whenever I'm 100% or almost 100%. I know that's not much for you but it's what I can offer here. I'm serious. Please help.

lol... one should think you might have already learned that there are things that you can't buy with money, especially your mental health... you have to work for it!

but i'm sure you find somebody who takes your money and provides you with what you want to hear, and a bunch of pills to repair you...

i'm sorry for the anxiety you feel now, but it's a lesson you'll have to learn i guess, you are producing the anxiety you feel, you are in control... nobody can give it to you, you have to take the responsability and make the best out of it!

and if your life before was as perfect as you portray it to be you would not have taken a drug in the first place me thinks... for me it sounds typically human "everything was better back in the day" i've heard that one before...

i wish you all the best for the future... maybe it's time to do some soul searching and to come to terms with who you are?

as the acid didn't change you, it only changed your focus on which part of you you are perceiving... but yeah sometimes ignorance can be bliss - especially when you don't have too many reasons to like yourself

all the best!

 

[mrdocat]

Thank you. And acid can definitely change someone, stop spreading that lie. I'm not trying to buy mental health with money, I'm buying guidance. I'll do every work necessary to get better.

 

[Spacemonkey5000]

Don't think I need that, I'm already very busy with studies and daily activities, just perfoming horribly.

But seriously isn't there any good community about brain neurons and stuff? I mean cmon there are huge communities about unicorns...

Maybe that is your problem, yu say you have alot off stuff going on all the time, maybe you are getting stressed out by trying to perform so much in all facets of life...

Maybe this lsd trip made you realize you don´t need to be the best in everything and now your brain is fed up with doing all this crap that you think is so important.

 

[johannes kreisler]

for me it sounds like you are suppressing something. a trauma, a revelation an insight. whatever. but something that the lsd brought to surface. and as long as you don't deal with it it will fester in you mind and provide you with the psychological symptoms you describe. (I guess you might develop some psychosomatic problems as well. maybe you already did.)


you shouldn't take psychedelics if you aren't ready for change and inner work. psychedelics are no toys. they have to be treated with respect and commitment.
start working on yourself asap. either through spiritual practice or professional psychological help. or both.
there is no pill out of it. the problems you describe are psychological and nowadays science knows virtually nothing about how matter creates mind.
the scientific 'explanation' is this:"you took a potent 5ht2a-agonist, this altered your perception profoundly,[medicine/neurology ends and psychology begins exactly here] you had an intense experience and it was more that you could handle. you're traumatized. a psychological trauma is usually treated with psychotherapy and/or SSRIs."
as a psychologist and psychonaut I'd add that you are in a spiritual crisis caused by an experience you were not prepared/ready for.
crises like that can be caused by all kinds of intense experiences (death, birth, accidents, relationship-issues, psychedelic drugs......; critical life events).


as others have said before: you won't find better advise as on this forum. what I stated above is the medical explanation. and if you don't get it by now then you are right with you paranoia: you won't improve.
accept, work on yourself and move on.

 

[not a doctor steve]

Well, the intense anxiety attacks and depression sounds like just those things to me: anxiety and depression. And if those symptoms reared their head after your LSD experience (which I'm assuming was your first?), I would say they're directly related to your trip.

Could you perhaps explain some of the more intense parts of the trip? How much L did you take?

It's weird to think about, but chemicals in our body are constantly bonding to one another and compounds are being created and destroyed all the time. So, my theory is, when you throw in another, simple chemical (most popular drugs aren't very complex if you look at a model of them compared to another substance) into the mix, the elements in the drug will bind to your body's chemicals and will literally change your body's chemistry. This isn't permanent, but the thoughts and the way you perceive your situation are up to you and your super ego......or whatever allows you to analyze your personal thoughts....to sort out.

As others have already said, different doors in the mind are opened by different drugs. They will eventually close on their own, so to speak. But what could've come in while they were open? You already know what made it in, huh? lol, metaphors

Now, the only real opinion I could offer you is to do some deep internet searching, lurking, and posting on different medical sites and maybe even some other harm reduction sites. If I were in your shoes (and I have been numerous times), I would identify what I'm having trouble responding to, or responding slowly to, and look for information pertaining to those things.

It might not be what you want to hear, but nobody really knows for sure what any drug actually DOES to your brain, except for maybe some intelligence agencies or something, but if they do they're not telling us. So, for now, all anyone can go by is their own introspection and analysis of where their thoughts are going.

TLDR- 'Sall good, keep pressing on, try to stay happy. First time I got pwned by acid, I lost two nights of sleep and called my sister crying like a baby about who knows what. She called my grandma and I went over to my grandparents' place to eat, take a nap, and paint a fence for my grandfather haha.

...Point is, I reconnected with what's most important to me, and I was able to get on with my life. Food for thought, bro

Good luck, though. I really hope you can sort this nonsense out.

 

[killermunchies]

oh god what was that. That happens almost every night. I wake up feeling really weird sensation on my head like I'm dying and with surreal thoughts. Please someone explain that event. This night I managed to think good things and it calmed me down. I was thinking 'dont worry <myself> I have an idea, a remedy combination will heal you'. That made sense for me, so I calmed down and managed to sleep. But seriously what the fuck is that?

Without further elaboration of the effect, it sounds like anxiety from a bad dream to me.

 

[Roger&Me]

The biggest issue here is that the operations of the brain are poorly understood, we can recognize correlation between activity and subjective experience, but the actual mechanism by which particles in motion become subjective individual experience is not understood. You experienced a radically altered subjective perception that many people find to be quite profound or jarring, and you feel affected. You want a medical understanding of what has occured, I understand that, but there is not a doctor on the planet who can offer that to you.

QFT. Very well articulated.

Neuroscience is basically still in its infancy, with a long way to go before we could even think about using it to concretely explain such phenomena.

 

[DwayneHoover]

Take my advice... already given earlier and apparently totally ignored... get a major brand quality standardized extract of Rhodiola. It is an adaptogen (helps systems adjust to normal no matter which way they went "wrong"), increases oxygen absorption/utilization, increases physical stamina, and most important, can increase levels of dopamine and serotonin in the brain, acting as a very effective anti-depressant and/or mood lifter, and can also really improve feelings of CLARITY.

Knowing what I know about it, and what you say about your symptoms, give it a try for a week, twice a day on an empty stomach, I really think it will help you.

It's not some weak new age silliness, it is serious medicine, heavily researched and used by professional athletes, mountain climbers, and millions of others for its broad ranging and powerful effects. Do not dismiss it as just "some herbal crap." LOOK IT UP YOURSELF, GET SOME, USE IT. Then get back to us. There is your prescription, OK???