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DOC - First Time (9 mg) - Weaving the tapestry of the mind

psychicpsycho

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Well this is my first experience on DOC and I decided to go for the big bang right off the bat (please note for anyone that this is pretty reckless and I would not recommend doing this to anyone) with 9mg. The largest report I have seen currently was 8 mg so I decided to one up it. This will all be in story mode not report mode because this experience is more a story.

A little about myself first: 6'1 195lb 20 yr old male with a wide range of experience on psychedelics and a pre existing tolerance for nearly anything. Here it goes.

I had the day off work today and a mess of new compounds to try. So I decided DOC was the one up for the day. I measured out 9mg and ingested orally. Surprisingly mild taste to it compared to many other compounds. Please note this is a large amount to take especially for a first experience.

At the hour mark I noticed the first twinges of come on. It began to manifest slowly over the next half hour and then rocketed up to an immediate +3 within another half hour. Headspace was absolutely stunning and visuals even more so. I kept going up and up until the 4 hour mark and the whole experience lasted 18 hours (from noon to 6am this morning). I will simply describe my thoughts visuals and insights from here on out.

At first visuals started gradual with heavy color amplification. Over time they evolved into something amazing. Normally I can pick out distinct shapes and patterns moving and shifting and morphing on many other compounds. These visuals were far more advanced. Instead of dozens of distinct shapes I could pick out thousands maybe even millions of distinct patterns and shapes moving writhing twisting and morphing in all directions on literally everything. Each shape constantly exploding with color and fractal imagery. Everything from stainless steel to carpet to the air around me was pulsating and reshaping as if every minute detail was alive and moving of its own free will. Every molecule in my body and the world around it was infused with its own sentience and purpose.

Then I close my eyes and something more amazing comes out of my head. Instead of the normal perception of seeing trace images on the back of my retinas it is like I am seeing out the top of my head. The space inside my head is a twisted constantly morphing inner space. Like a liquid dimension filled with infinitesimal amounts of shapes and patterns constantly merging into one another. I equivocate it as every piece of psychedlic imagery one could ever possibly imagine twisting through your head in a matter of seconds and rekindling anew as soon as it has passed through. To merely take it all in is a staggering achievement that takes all of my concentration. Even then my brain could not hope to keep up with the blistering pace of transformation swirling through my head. Every time it pulsates through it focuses on a central object. a giant void in the very center of my head that pulses with amazing energy and upon concentration turns into a giant eye with two eye lids one unfolding after the other All the while gazing straight at me. It is like I am a visitor into a new realm forged inside my own mind. It is all much more like a gateway to another dimension. I can see through the door but I cannot open it. I have no need to however because whatever is beyond the door is pouring into my mind.

Later in the trip the open eye visuals begin to fade (around the 12 hour mark!) into highly tuned color amplification. It is like the world around me is pixelated. Like everything I am seeing is being viewed through a high definition TV.

My thought processes through this whole episode have been amazing and at the same time very depressing (not a bad trip just the stress of the world bearing down on me from beforehand) I have realized many things about myself and the world around me which came through deep introspection and surface worries combined. I was surprisingly clear headed through the whole experience though. Able to operate completely normal in all aspects (my gf did not even know I was tripping until the 4 hour mark). Just imagine your mind removing all of its filters on your perception and everything being seen in its absolute purest and most unrefined form. Needless to say some very deep thoughts occured on many subjects. The most peculiar being the thought of what it would be like if you were a soul and your body tried to run away from you. This led to a later conjecture why so many people cannot deal with psychedelics. You are not controlling your body anymore. the drug is in control and you are merely in for the ride. Without that control many people do not know how to handle themselves.

Then at 1am I went on to the final leg of the journey one purely inside my head. OEVs had faded to color amplification/pixelation by now. Upon closing my eyes all I could see was a giant gateway swirling and twisting like a giant vortex.I gazed at it for quite some time until finally I could see inside of it. What happened was both frightening and awe inspiring. A giant eye again came out of the vortex. This time big enough to fill my entire headspace. It opened its double eyelids and from it sprang thousands upon thousands of eyes of countless different colors and shapes. It took me a while to accept it but I finally dove in for more. Upon watching more the eyes began to grow partial faces (alien faces) and they formed a fractal colliage of limitless twisting shapes and designs all gazing solely at me. I could feel their awareness of me. Speaking with a unified consciousness they began to communicate mentally with me. Wondering how I had come to be in this space. They knew what I was and I knew what they were. At first we were both surprised by each other but then we began some minor communication and I began to understand their intentions. Thousands upon thousands of eyes all gazing on me constantly analyzing my every thought and response. I began to understand that this was not a new thing for them that they had seen me before and many others as well.

After this experience (which lasted for nearly an hour) I began to force myself to sleep. although I was still in my inner space a lot of it I could not tell if I had slept or not when I woke up this morning. I remember a point where I could actually see inside my own head in a physical sense. Like my eyeballs had become independant of me and could see in and around my brain. I watched this for a good 15 minutes. Amazing stuff.


All in all this one of the single most incredible and awe inspiring experiences I have ever had in my life if not the most intense. Unless you are ready for the ride of a lifetime this stuff isnt for you. Especially at such a high dose. At this level you begin to see how truly deep the rabbit hole goes. Even after this I still believe that I am merely scratching the surface of a nearly limitless dimension beyond our own.
 
Cheeses and Rice! Psychicpsycho;
That must have been amazing for you! This is a very well written report. Are you considering trying an even higher dose of this? I've heard of other folks speaking of stepping through gates in there LSD trips. Could be a form of ego loss, or +4 territory!

Just a thought, have you or anyone ever wondered if the eyes you where seeing, just mite be the many thousands of collective concisenesses from the countless lifeforms that live in and on our bodies trying to communicate with us? This sounds like science fiction I know, or is it!
Namaste
 
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Indeed I have wondered that. Just the way it felt and the way they communicated was in a wholly alien way. I do not believe them to be human. I could see eyes every color of the rainbow all of them looking different than human eyes and the faces looked wholly alien as well.

Frightening at first but I just decided to not hold back and dive right in. im glad I did.

I believe I might try a higher dose eventually. Maybe I will try 12-15mg I dont know if it would really be all too safe going any further. We will see what it feels like at that marker and go from there.
 
Dude!

Allright so this "vortex" thing has been described to me by other people who've pushed doses above 6mg or so. You mentioned that you discovered the "intention" of the eyes/entities watching you...... you gotta tell me what it is!

See I've never gone beyond 4mg and I could see the spiral / vortex but definitely wasn't strong enough to get sucked into it (I tried too).

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Now, I also gotta ask. How did this feel on your body? Was your heartrate noticeably elevated? Noticeable or bothersome vasoconstriction? Nausea? Any complaints at all?

Because I find this stuff to be really smooth and 4mg wasn't any harder on my body than 2mg (which felt like really smooth amphetamine mixed with really clean LSD).

Because you are the first person I know of to push the dose to 9mg, please try to supplement the report with this information.

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Also... please submit this to Erowid! I'll triage it right away and you won't have to wait like 2 years for it to show up ;)
 
Report has already been submitted to erowid (under the name KaneZen).

No elevated heartrate or vascoconstriction. Even at the higher end dosage it is still very smooth and controllable. My gf didnt notice I was tripping until 4 hours into it. No nausea minor GI stress. Just so you know im an extremely experienced tripper so it is possible for me to go about acting completely normal even when im totally bent out of my skull.

The vortex is what you want to know about huh? describing it is pointless you just have to see for yourself. We must walk the path for our own or we can never learn the reasons why.

I will give you a piece of advice though. It took me until visuals had dulled down to go inside. At first its pretty intense and almost frightening. You have to accept it and just dive in. If you let your instincts guide you then you will surely recoil from it. You must will yourself to be there.
 
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Triaged also! It should be up in no time.

I'm nervous about DOC because I don't think I like how long these compounds last. While I really enjoyed DOI by about the 10 hour point I was more than ready for it to be over. I just feel so drained and spent and immune to any further psychedelic effects other than stimulation.

Is it really worth the duration??
 
It is indeed worth it. I was actually tripping visuals and everything the whole time until the last 3 hours. In fact the single most interesting part of it was at the 11-13 hour mark.

btw brace yourselves for another trip report tomorrow from me (I just took 40 mg of 4 Acetoxy-MiPT) Its an experimental weekend for me. Ive got a mess of new compounds in and plan to test them all. Tomorrow its 2C-E. After this weekend I plan on laying off for a while so I can integrate it all.
 
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Well I was going to write a trip report about that but I dont feel it is worth the time. 40mg of 4Aco-MiPT hardly even kept me awake. I think I was just too tired to appreciate it all. maybe insufflation holds something that oral does not because I barely break into visuals no matter how high I go this way.
 
psychicpsycho said:
btw brace yourselves for another trip report tomorrow from me (I just took 40 mg of 4 Acetoxy-MiPT)[...]

Please don't forget to post this TR, 4-AcO-MiPT is sounding really interesting.
 
Of all the DOC trip reports I have read this is the one that has finally done it - I will be taking DOC before long :)
 
psychicpsycho said:
btw brace yourselves for another trip report tomorrow from me (I just took 40 mg of 4 Acetoxy-MiPT) Its an experimental weekend for me. Ive got a mess of new compounds in and plan to test them all. Tomorrow its 2C-E.

Well one has to point out what should be obvious… 3 psychedelics 3 days in a row is going to give you monster tolerance. Your 40 mg. 4-AcO-MIPT trip may have been underwhemling due to hmm… lets see… maybe having taken a faily large dose of DOC the day previous, no? One would wager that the 2C-E experienment will also be well below expectations. Best to take these agents no more often than once per week and one at a time. It is probably safer, more likely yeild positive results like the DOC report above, and certaily likely to be more economical (more ‘bang for your buck’). From reports, DOC, 2C-E, & 4-AcO-MIPT all have great potential… best to give each their own weekend to shine rather than try and figure them out all lumped into 3 days… well IOHO anyaways.

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ya true. I dont really plan on doing anymore this weekend after the 4Aco-MiPT. My tolerance levels just rise way too fast. I will probably skip a week because of all the drugs ive done this week. need to let that huge tolerance drop down again.
4Aco was still fun though it felt like a low dose X body buzz with great audio hallucinations and minor visuals. I enjoyed it.kep having crazy flashbacks from the DOC trip. Giant eye in my head keeps watching me.
 
Aliens!

One of my friends took 6-7mg her first time and went SO DEEP into it to where she described the tornado/vortex/spiral fractal thing, getting lost in it, achieving what she still thinks is the highest state of consciousness she possibly could - she went back to the pyramids in egypt and was shown information that basically we are just a small computer simulation from a higher universe run by aliens.

About the 'vortex', and high resolution/high definition vision, was your vision like a computer cranked up to super resolution but slower framerate? Like 1/2 second "snapshots", super high quality and incredible color but for me it was difficult to do anything "normal" like.. driving a car hehe.

I was at a coney island tripping on 6mg DOC one day with this girl there, she wasn't tripping (was the weekend before), but she gave me some tips.. She said if time seems to stop, or the same 1/2 second of vision/perception leaps on top of itself, to remember that there's a universe still going on around me and give her a hand signal to let her know because I will still be able to move around..

She was tripping at a house, the spiral tornado vision thing happened, and she could move around freely, but everything she saw was just her brain filling in the missing perception information from memory alone.

She had to go to the bathroom, so she walked up the stairs, her brain filling in the stairs for her like lego blocks, all the way into the bathroom. Well, the music stopped playing (she could still hear the song), and she forgot where she came from / who she is.. thats when she thought she was a ghost etc etc got into her boyfriends head/thoughts.

As she was telling me about this time loop stuff I would start to see her face/body break more into blocks, felt like I could have slipped into a loop but gladly I didn't where I was at - this is something I really want to explore someday but it will have to be in a setting where I don't have to .. well.. drive a car etc. It would be a nice high dose of DOC too.

I was out in my car just to sit, and was staring at this cell phone tower. The antenna structures shaped like triangles, started to look more intricate and detailed, looking at one part of one of the triangles i'd see what looked like thousands of detailed... triangle like antenna structures, realised the whole thing was growing into a more and more detailed fractal. I looked up the tower, and where it ended in the sky, looked like a spiral shaped thing going infinitely into the sky - if i were to mentally stare at this too long i'd get sucked in which I couldn't do there.

Maybe psychicpsycho next time if you remember, with open eyes try initiating this "time loop" thing, I definitely know a lot of it is mental, well I can totally tell by your report your well experienced with this kind of thing :) but man i'd love to read some good descriptions of what goes on in the "time loop" - haven't been "in there" yet myself but it sounds like an *incredibly deep* space.
 
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Well one has to point out what should be obvious… 3 psychedelics 3 days in a row is going to give you monster tolerance. Your 40 mg. 4-AcO-MIPT trip may have been underwhemling due to hmm… lets see… maybe having taken a faily large dose of DOC the day previous, no? One would wager that the 2C-E experienment will also be well below expectations. Best to take these agents no more often than once per week and one at a time.

Yeah but didn't you read the first paragraph of his report? Its all about one upping people.
 
i strongly believe that High End DOC doses give you a better and more controllable trip then lets say 2-4mg doses. but thats my opinoin. Next time i take it ill try 10-12 mg. Ill post a report. Yo it helps to have somthing to knock you out after like 13 hours of trippin. Its a must, because if you cant handle it you can end it.
 
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