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DOC (8 mg) - First Time - 1st Trip Report

maxX

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before you read my trip report, I need to inform you that i did a LOT of LSD two days prior, so because of the cross tolerance I'm not experiencing the effects to their true potential. I did way more than the normal dosage. I do not recommend ANYONE to take more than 4mg their first time, i ended up taking 8mg total. I also did ketamine 12 hours prior. Also this is my first trip report, so please bear with me heh:


2:45pm : Orally ingested capsuled 4mg with a little bit of water. I think I'm going to play some Day of Defeat: Source and try to forget that I took this.


3:35: something is in my brain. I turned off the air conditioner, my senses seemed to be heightened now. Also quit playing DoD:s, my ears couldn't take the barrage of bullets and people speaking over voice com. Often when I do psychedelics I have this sort of 'metallic touch', some parts of my body has a zingy, staticy feeling to it. I don't know how to describe it that well, and well, I have that feeling in my nose right now. I think i'm going to put on some pajamas and socks. I decided to disconnect myself from Ventrilo too, and lock myself in my room. The feeling of seclusion feels great right now, I'm in my own safe haven, I play by my own rules now.


3:50: colors seem a bit brighter and more blurred. My ears keep popping as if I were changing altitude but i'm just sitting here in my chair. I'm not listening to music yet, I'm trying to pay more attention to my other senses first than fully getting into it. I'm freezing my ass off, and my room gets hot trust me. The sounds of cars driving by, people on the street..are just tripping me the fuck out. I don't know if they are real or not.


4:11 : My thought process has noticeably changed. More concise and thought out. I refuse to become belligerent. Candles are lit and deodorant is on. I'm set :) . One time when i was on 5mg of DO*b* i tried drawing when I was peaking. I could only draw rectangles and triangles/pyramids...sharp objects only. I probably had the will to draw circles but I didn't want to. The chemical wasn't
thinking in circles it was thinking linear. I can already feel that 'linear' train of thought to DOC. The beauty of symmetry has caught my attention. I usually don't like to make trip reports because it makes me focus too much on the drug, instead of letting me have a lot of fun with it. I can't wait to do this chemical again without having to type everything up.


4:20: My roommates just came home..I have nothing to hide from them but I think I'll put on some music now. Tuned into di.fm's psytrance station. The last thing I ate was some enchilada at 7am this morning, if i had anything in my stomach now i'd for sure regurgitate. It's official, i'm a bit nauseas. But that's alright, a foreign chemical in my stomach for the first time, I'm over it. The edges of my face now have that 'metallic' feeling I was talking about earlier. I'm getting mild tracers at this point. I'm sure my body is still learning what to do with this chemical. Everytime I try a substance for the first time my body has to decode it and learn how to use it. Hell, my first time doing MDMA it didn't hit me for 2 hours, mushrooms 90 minutes, ketamine 15 minutes, DOB 4 hours... see where I'm getting at with this? The anticipation is making me sweat, that and the fact that I'm freezing my ass off in this hot room. This is definitely not a substance for raves. Maybe outdoor parties, but definitely not indoors . I'm slightly horny..heh, I can feel it playing with my serotonin receptors.


4:45 : My screen is starting to shift directions. Typing this up is like looking at rushhour traffic.. the words are moving towards eachother and are congested. Damn my hormones...I really don't want to turn this into a 'how horny i am right now report', so i'll try to get my mind off of sex.


4:50 I feel like a space case. Noises sound alien-like, where's my tinfoil hat when i need it XD. This is really cool, I definitely want to meditate to this. I'm going to try to project an object from my forehead. I was able to do it several times on DOB, so DOC..oh boy. I think my whole forehead needs to have that metallic feeling to it, and then i'll be able to perform this type of astral projection. Closed eyed visuals aren't clear. Seems more like a pulsating flash, no objects or fractals. I'm going to close notepad, I'm going to go meditate.


5:01 My thought process isn't ready for meditation yet. Maybe it will be in a few hours. Sorry for making this a really lengthy/rambling report, there's a lot going on in my mind. I'm really in the mood to make some music, I would love to make my own psytrance right now..but I feel i'd need to pick out the sounds before I start tripping. I think next time I'll make music.


5:30 I've come to the conclusion I did way too much acid on saturday. I must ingest more of this chemical to realize it's true potential. What a horrible way to go about doing drugs, right? The creator of this chemical said I should, so we'll see what happens! 4 more milligrams here we go..


6:00 My brain is gearing up..it knows i took more. As disgusting as it sounds my brain feels warm, but I'm sure you've all experienced that. My room is pretty dark, except with the glow of my lcd, but i look at the dark walls and colors are there. My walls are dark green, i'm seeing blues and yellows.. and the ceiling is moving around a lot. It reminds me of the haunted mansion at disneyland.. except there's no skeleton hanging from the room. My monitor is getting a lot bigger, by a couple of inches. Everything is glowing nicely and the lsd-like side effects are fully happening now.


6:30 my whole head is throbbing with the metallic/static feeling. i'm ready for meditation.


6:50 I just scared the shit out of myself. I was laying on my bed seeing flower designs in my head, when i felt someone tap my shoulder. it was so real, i grabbed behind me and no one was there. i'm going insane >_<, but i'm staying focussed. I'm able to control what i see when i close my eyes. Playing god, if you will. I'm also able to do this on ketamine and DOB. But fuck DOB >_< i need to stop talking about that chemical it hurts my body so much when i'm on it. DOC isn't hurting my body at all. It's a nice change, i love it. Rubbing my eyes is insane colors everywhere and snowflake designs. I'm hardly making complete sentences anymore, sorry. The posters in my room are fucking crazy.


7:30 my hearing senses are completely fucked up. alien noises..like an episode of the twilight zone.I'm still feeling that metallic vibrating sense all over my body now. My sense of touch is utterly.. ORGASMIC. as i'm typing on my keyboard it feels amazing. Oh man my serotonin receptors are having so much fun right now. I need to be careful not to burn my fingers. Also cool, ice! i got
some ice from my freezer and playing with it in my mouth is the most fun ever. Feeling it melt is awesome.


8:40 lost in thought.. i've been sitting on my bed thinking of my life..damn alien noises everywhere though. I don't feel amped up on this chem either..I'm pretty sure I'll sleep nicely tonight! And you know what? those damn commercials on di.fm are getting to me. I'm grooving to a song and then the commercial comes on. "you are listening to digitally imported blah blah" I KNOW WHAT IM LISTENING TO! thats the only bad vibe i've gotten this whole trip, everything has been extremely pleasant and fun. So stay away from di.fm!


9:10 I've been tripping out on this fuzzy black pillow..I keep seeing wolves, rats, cats... all sorts of animals in it. It looks like rats are eating a dead animal on my bed.. haha. I like to see and imagine gross stuff like this because I know it's not real. I'm really craving some icecream right now... Sherbert sounds so fucking good you can't understand how hungry I am >_< What I really wanna know is the attack dosage on this stuff (if there is any), I can see how people will abuse it. I'm saving my last 8mgs for next week. I'm crazy! Looking at this report in notepad is fucking awesome.. it's like a river of words are flowing down, they're bending and warping like a current. Every word has a small yellow glow around it. Music is essential. Music is so beautiful. I haven't noticed any dilation of my pupils, but then again the only drug i've done that has messed with my pupils was morphine.


10:00pm Still going strong, my eyes are kinda tired though. I don't recommend blacklights they'd burn too much. Wtf. I keep smelling greasy tacos. When I was on DOB the same fucking thing happened. I thought I smelled greasy tacos but my roommates were eating pizza. My sense of smell is connected to my imagination more than reality. But I really want tacos now :( .


10:30 AMAZING. I've been making music videos with my eyes closed. Kind of reminds me of looking through a kaleidoscope just not so distorted. The visuals are faint, kinda like a purplish glow, but so fun. You'd have to do a lot of this chemical to get vibrant close eyed visuals. I'm still seeing mild tracers, and things look like they're aging in time. Have you ever been on a psychedelic and
been able to time warp things? like make them look older or newer? i'm able to kinda do that now. If I look at an object and close my eyes real quick i can do whatever i want to that object in my mind. Still doesn't beat the closed eye visuals of mushrooms though, that's for damn sure.


10:45 This drug works on sleep deprivation. Not so much like DOB but I feel I wont sober up until i passout. My taskbar keeps doing weird things.. like when i'm not focussing my vision on it it keeps moving.. kinda like i have spyware or something but I don't. I decided to go play some Day of Defeat:s again. Everytime I fry and play FPS's i kick ass. People think i'm hacking, but I'm way
more attentive and I can predict their movements.


1:00 am I ate sherbert icecream. This meant i actually left my room to go to the kitchen. The second I open my door into the darkness colors swirl at me. Colors are pulsating, flickering...but not going completely out. The icecream was so fucking good, first food in my stomach since 7am yesterday, I don't count the DOC as food haha. I continue playing in my DoD:s server.


2:00am Once again I go out for more icecream, I'm starting to noticeably sober up, but I still have the metallic feel to my nose and ears. Colors are still glowing, my hearing is amplified.


3:00am SALAD! real food! Oh man how happy I am right now. Things are still glowy, and my color is still distorted. If I focus I can still kinda make words move around.


4:00am I thought I was sobering up, but then I started getting delusional from sleep deprivation... must..keep..playing DoD:s :D

Brief Post Analysis: Awesome, I'm just upset I had done lsd two days prior. Had a really fun time, still kinda tripping right now but I consider it over. Can't wait to passout. Thanks for reading my report :)
 
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To bad you had done LSD so soon before your first DOC experience. Altough it really sounds like you had a good time with the Doctor!

Yeah man The DI> http://www.di.fm/ <station is awsome sep for the commercials:\ ! I use RipCast Streaming Audio Ripper >http://www.xoteck.com/ripcast/ <to record there streams with. It automatically separates the tunes and commercials too. Then I save the best of the best for lator triping!

Orange sherbet is SOOOOoo good whilst tripping=D

Good report though;)
Cheers
 
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"Have you ever been on a psychedelic and
been able to time warp things? like make them look older or newer?"

Once on LSD I looked in the mirror and watched my face age from a young man to an old man. It was pretty cool because I was pretty happy with my appearance as an old man :)

"Still doesn't beat the closed eye visuals of mushrooms though, that's for damn sure."

Mushrooms really do take the cake for CEVs. But LSD is pretty dang wild in the closed eye department too, and I think DOC is more or less equal to LSD in those terms.

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As a side note, I believe the dose you took is too large for most first timers. My 2mg experience was rich, visual, deep, and reminded me very much of a very good clean hit of LSD. Except... man it's so hard to put your finger on the differences. LSD is a bit more "pushy" I'd say. My DOC experience is kind of what I would expect something like ALD-52 to be like, except with a few hours longer duration.

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Anyway thanks for this trip report! Did you happen to get any sleep that night? I doubt I would have slept without the Xanax, because I agree, with this stuff you will pretty much continue to trip (after like an 8-10 hour peak), although coming down somewhat, until you sleep.

Fortunately it is much easier to sleep on DOC than DOI... probably about as easy to sleep as it would be 14 hours after you took a couple hits of good acid.

I have never tried DOB but I thought DOI wasn't that impressive, and DOC is tied in a tight race for my #1 favorite psychedelic now.

I also got some pretty heavy munchies on DOC. A Three Musketeers bar and three beers had to do in terms of holding me over.

I agree that music is so key on DOC. Nothing enhances music like this stuff does. I don't go to "raves" but I sure as hell look forward to taking DOC at a music festival!

So yeah, good report man. I'm actually surprised you weren't even more blown away by that dose but I'm kind of glad to hear that 8mg can be tolerated well and you still seemed to have a very minimal body load even at 4x the dose I took.

I'm thinking the acid families and distributors better start considering pumping out some QUALITY LSD for lower prices.... otherwise they will have a tough time competing with DOC.

I also hope DOC gets a good enough name for itself that people will not be motivated to try to sell it as LSD. There's really no need... DOC is .... damn, should I say, better!

I really look forward to my next experiment... which will be 3 or 3.5 mg. I really got a lot out of my 2mg experience but I have a feeling that will be slightly on the light side for many people.

I don't know how much your LSD tolerance played a role in possible diminished effects of your DOC trip, but if I were you next time I'd stick to the same 4mg dose, just next time do it without a tolerance to make sure.

What else to say? DOC is some frickin awesome stuff. The kind of stuff that makes you want to do it all the time, except, um, that would be bad ;)
 
Nice report Maxx, glad you ended up enjoying it. I didnt know if you would like it to its full potential since you like DOB so much... but I guess its confirmed which is the more superior chemical =D

Im going to get my report up next Sunday (dosing on Saturday), which will make 4 (or 5, or 6, if anyone else posts one) DOC reports.. then its back to the weekly pinnage of interesting chem report topics.
 
Submit all these DOC reports to Erowid guys... I'll try to get them posted ASAP.
 
toltec : thx! i'm definately going to try using that program

bluedolphin: I ended up playing games all night instead of trying to sleep. it's what I do every night so I don't consider it something substance induced LOL . I'm going to try staying sober this next whole week and pumping my body full of nutrients, and then try 4mg next week. Interesting thing I think might happen is everytime i do DOC it will get better each time, that's the way it was with DOB.

psilo: heh yeah you were right, i did enjoy it more than DOB. I can't wait until I go outside and look at the clouds. I love afterglows. And hurry up with your report I want to know how yours went :D
 
maxX said:
Interesting thing I think might happen is everytime i do DOC it will get better each time, that's the way it was with DOB.

I havent tried DOB, but i've done lot's of DOI, and i noticed the same thing. For instance about 3.5weeks ago, i ate 10mg DOI. I peaked at around the 4 hour mark, and was down to almost baseline around the 8hr mark..with very very minimal effects through the next 4 horus or so...just annoying stimulation and minor CEV's really.
Then about 2 weeks after that, i snort about 4mg DOI. (yeah snorting probably resulted in the huge difference, but come on check this out)...i actually didnt peak until about 12 hours later! and was still frying pretty hard, on and off in waves almost 24 hours later! wtf?!?

Anyways, i cannot wait to try DOC. I really can't stress this enough. I'll throw together a TR as well.. The more the better, right? No weed, no tolerance to psyches or nothing....just DOC for my first and for the sake of an accurate/"pure" TR.

I enjoyed the read. thx.
DM%)
 
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Dex you might as well smoke 'em if you got 'em on the DOC.... at least once you get used to the peak. I found the synergy was excellent and didn't add any anxiety or confusion to the trip. But it did seem to make the trip even "deeper" and a bit more visual.
 
Interesting notion about how the pupils didn't seem to dialate. I wonder why that is being that you were in that "hardcore" of a trip. Can anyone shed some light on this?

But I'm looking forward to sampling this myself :)
 
bluedolphin said:
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Dex you might as well smoke 'em if you got 'em on the DOC.... at least once you get used to the peak. I found the synergy was excellent and didn't add any anxiety or confusion to the trip. But it did seem to make the trip even "deeper" and a bit more visual.


"deeper" and a bit more visual" as like what happens when your filled with good LSD? I know pot always gave my LSD sessions a few extra peeks. In fact i would never take L if i had no weed. I mean it's like cookies and milk, peanut butter and jelly! :\
 
subdefy said:
Interesting notion about how the pupils didn't seem to dialate. I wonder why that is being that you were in that "hardcore" of a trip. Can anyone shed some light on this?

But I'm looking forward to sampling this myself :)

i think maybe it has something to do with my diet? I'm not sure, drugs don't make my pupils bigger or smaller except like I stated the one time I did morphine (pupils were small as heck). Maybe I'm just a freak =D
 
I would definately smoke pot on my 2nd trip and so on. I personally dont mix anything with a chem the first time i try it..i want to know what every part of the trip does without any "outside" influence. But yeah, i'm down for badass synergy anyday my friend :D
 
maxX said:
i think maybe it has something to do with my diet? I'm not sure, drugs don't make my pupils bigger or smaller except like I stated the one time I did morphine (pupils were small as heck). Maybe I'm just a freak =D

What's your diet like?
 
subdefy said:
What's your diet like?

here's my daily average vitamin intake

I take
1x 1,000mg vitamin c pill
2x flintstones chewables
1x Super B-complex vitamin w/Vitamin C

my diet is rich in fiber and protein

i take those vitamins because I live off mainly fastfood. I don't know, I have way more copper intake because of multiple flintstones vitamins, and I know copper effects pupil dilation. But honestly, I'm not educated in what substances interact with the pupils beyond that so I'm only guessing it's the copper.
 
Why are all the DOC reports grouped together in a sticky?

How about a mega TR tread grouped together in chapters starting with the first DOC TR.
 
Toltec said:
Why are all the DOC reports grouped together in a sticky?
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I'm also curious
maybe it is done to make DEA notice this substance
and add it to their ''to schedule list":\
 
^ i guess you guiys dont remember this.

Before we used to choose a focus in TR and find every report that pertains to that drug and sticky them to the top. Its kept that way for a couple weeks and then they drop to the bottom.
It also makes it easier for those of use looking for TR of this particular substance to find it.
 
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