• Trip Reports Moderator: M!$ter-ED

DOB - Inexperienced - scarred

Aidan of TCC

Bluelighter
Joined
Dec 7, 2006
Messages
97
Location
North Carolina, US
EDIT: *** GC/MS reports conclude this substance to be DOB***
http://www.unc.edu/~oseli/blottertest.pdf

This was from this fall, I thought I'd share with bluelight.


First, a little background. I picked up some hits a while back and after they were gone I found 4 hits underneath my desk and set them aside. The odd thing about this sheet was it was stained peculiarly on the back, and under a black light the lighter stained parts glowed much brighter than others. I had only taken 2 hits from it and found it disappointingly underwhelming. Then, last Monday, I found out that a band I liked (Ratatat) was playing half a mile away that night. I was completely exhausted, but my friend talked me into going after all. I needed something to wake me up and remembered that acid while exhausted always wipes the exhaustion away.


I should also mention the most acid I've taken at once was 15 hits of strong liquid, and I've never had a "bad trip" before.


Part I: The Come Up
9:45pm: I took 1 hit and took a shower and got dressed.
10:25pm: I was feeling great and having fun coming up so I took a second.
10:45pm: Still feeling awesome, I took a third hit.
11:00pm: My friend backs out of the concert he convinced me to go to because it cost $15 and he said that was too much.

From 11-12pm or so I went into my office, put milkdrop on the monitor, and laid back on a futon to enjoy it. Before long the visuals were coming off the monitor, and shortly after, the entire room was patterned like milkdrop.

Around 12pm I got up to answer some instant messages. A few minutes into a conversation I had to tell my friend to hold on because it was hard to read the screen since a song I'm emotionally connected to came on. He mentioned something about synaesthesia being neat, and I realized that I really was "seeing" the music, to the point that I couldn't read the screen during some songs. I've never had such synaesthesia before.

Around this time my girlfriend went to bed and I went into the living room where my roommate was watching tv. I was slowly descending into my own world and beginning to be concerned about the intensity. I started thinking about acquiring some benzos but held back because I didn't want people to think that *I* needed benzos to control a trip. This was foolish of me. As I was descending into complete ego loss, I decided to ask Tacolobster, just as she was going to bed. I got on aim and tried to ask her quickly. What came out was:
code:
________________________________________

"i'm sorry becky"
" wwwwwwzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzz"
________________________________________


After that I was completely gone from this world and she went to bed.

Part II: A Brief(long) History of Life

By 1am (+2:15) I was tripping harder from 3 hits than I had off of 15 strong hits.

By 1:30am I had descended into complete ego loss, where I remained until 8am before beginning to come down. During this period I would frequently black out and come to in a different room than I was last.

As best I can tell, I began my journey by reliving the history of life up until the present. This may sound fun, but it's a fucking long history. The first moments of life were terrifying. The fear and loneliness I felt were overwhelming. There was confusion, fear, solitude and blackness. Nothing else. This went on for a terribly long period of time.

Eventually, other organisms emerged, all feeling the same way. Some had the courage to venture into the blackness, to grow and expand their influence. They died. Then, some ventured more cautiously, seeing the failures before them, and survived to expand. Like this, life slowly expanded until it was no longer so alone.

Single-celled organisms formed groups for survival, some competing, some cooperating. Specialization began, colonies emerged, evolution began its slow walk towards humanity...All the while I kept the perspective of a single-celled organism, through millions of years as the colony (species) it was a part of grew more and more complex. I started to feel pride in being part of something greater, and pride at the length of time I(life) had survived.

Then I reached the present and was imbued with a strong sense of, "This is what it took to get where you are now. Respect this."

Part III: God, Speaking On The Subject of Life: fuck


Having caught up with the present, my perspective shifted to that of God. As an aside, I'm a pantheist and feel very strongly about my beliefs.

Pantheism (Greek: p?? ( 'pan' ) = all and Theos = God) literally means "God is All" and "All is God". It is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent God; or that the universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence, and the universe (the sum total of all that is, was, and shall be) is represented or personified in the theological principle of 'God'.

For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism.

It was around 4am in the real world by now, I had been alone for 2-3 hours when I saw the world through god's eyes. The first thought I had as God was "fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. fucking fuck." You see, God fucked up. He didn't think ahead. Life had begun, and it was good...until God realized he had no way to terminate life. Evolution would proceed, in this universe, indefinitely. Perfection can never be obtained, and life will just keep running...forever...a process begun without a possible end point. Life, it seemed to God(me), was a program that would never terminate naturally. I'd soon find out why this was such a "fuck" from God's point of view.

Part IV: An Eternity Is A Long Time

By about 5am I became preoccupied with a thought that would dominate the rest of the trip, and distress me to no end. I was more God than ever, and aware that as God I consisted of 4 aspects, only 2 of which are visible in my body's reality (those two being male and female). The four aspects of God worked together, but each had their own personality. The female aspect was represented as my girlfriend, the male as myself, and the other two don't exist in this world and there's no way I can describe them.

I also saw that reality consisted of 4 quasi-independent and supersymmetrical "branes" (reality bubbles). What happened in one reality had an equal and opposite effect on its complement, keeping the whole in balance. Hmm It's hard to explain further without getting into physics and symmetry....

There are 3 basic symmetries in the world, C (particle/antiparticle) P (parity) and T (time)

Charge is particle/antiparticle, parity is the symmetry of interactions under spatial inversion, and Time is just time. What's interesting is if you reversed the CHARGE of the universe and reversed the PARITY of the universe and reversed the TIME (flow) of the universe, those 3 changes would result in exactly no difference whatsoever (in terms of the laws of physics). Reversing C and T breaks symmetry, as does P and T, but reversing both C and P (but not T) yields a nearly identical universe.

Supersymmetry theorizes that there's a fourth fundamental symmetry between fermions and bosons (which may be proven in late 2007 when the new supercollider is finished).

I'd go into more detail but it either gets complicated or I don't understand it enough to explain it.

Anyway, just as there were 4 aspects of God (the universe, in my belief system), there are 4 fundamental forces and 4 fundamental symmetries, and 4 fundamental realities.

As God, I knew that life began because of the big bang...because there was a point in time where all 4 aspects of the universe were one, the four parts combined somehow created life (or the conditions necessary for it), just before blowing apart. This made it impossible for life to be changed once it began, it could only run its natural course.

Furthermore, as God, while I was aware of 4 parts of myself, only the two that exist in our reality were accessible to me (male/female). The other two, I was aware of them and their doings, but we couldn't communicate.

My thoughts, as God, were entirely preoccupied (to the point of insanity) with finding a way to change reality so that the four aspects of myself could convene and figure out a way for life to "end".

Let me explain "change reality"...as God I had access to and control over the history of the universe from the moment following the big bang when we separated until the present. I could also see the changes in the future that changes in the past/present caused.

My time was consumed with making minute changes to reality and then observing the results...probing future realities and potential realities to see if there was any possible way to re-unite myself (and terminate evolution) in the future. Every change was a failure, I felt insane, frustrated, tormented and trapped. During this period I was aware of my identity as a human, and was concerned with the fact that I(God) was embodying a vessel that was not mine. I could remember facts about my human self, but they were like facts about a stranger...mostly meaningless and disconnected from myself.

Part V: In Which I Grow Closer To Reality

By now it was 8am, and I was once again seeing my house. But it wasn't my house...at least, things were wrong. Things that leaned right leaned left. The TV was on The Price is Right, but time was moving backwards (winnings were going down) and Bob Barker was speaking a projection of my thoughts. This was very, very distressing.

From 8-12am I was half in the real world and half out of it. I kept shifting reality to try to make it right again. Sometimes I could half-see the other 3 realities superimpossed on mine and the changes my shifts were enacting over there. Sometimes I'd change things and nothing much would change. Sometimes I'd change things and a cat would go CRAZY. One time I changed things and the cat tried to mate with me. I saw where that future went, it wasn't a compatible match. I changed reality again, and again, and again...

All the while I had with me a horrible fear from the first part of my ego loss. When life had just begun, a lack of movement eventually led to the cold clutches of death. I remained terrified of staying still throughout the trip. When lying down, I moved my legs (to keep the warmth of friction, and thus life...).

Eventually I shifted reality in a way that felt right. Suddenly it occurred to me that I had a bottle of anti-psychotics in a drawer. I took two 5mg pills of Zyprexa (olazapine) and collapsed. In thirty minutes I was out and slept for 24 hours with a 2 hour interruption. This was around 1pm, or +14:15.

Part VI: Aftermath

It's taken me over a week to make enough sense of that trip to even attempt to describe it. There's just as much that I left out because it was too weird or too hard to verbalize as there is posted here. Maybe I'll add a prologue later in the thread.

This trip completely fucked my mind up the ass and left it tied naked to a tree in the woods. I tripped much much harder off those 3 hits than I did when I tripped off the 15 hits, though many similar themes or identical themes were present. I feel like acid mind raped me to show me that it still could.
 
Last edited:
Wow! That's an incredible trip. Well written report, too.

Good luck with the reintegration process. I hope it happens naturally and soon. Very interesting thoughts of yours on the arrows of time, and how that relates to God.

Thank you for sharing with us!
 
Brilliant. I've heard of meeting God on psychedelics, but becoming Him? That's either serious delusion or one of the most profound things you'll ever experience. My bet is on the latter. This report reminds me of my first few trips when acid used to seriously kick my arse.
 
elfdancer said:
Good luck with the reintegration process. I hope it happens naturally and soon. Very interesting thoughts of yours on the arrows of time, and how that relates to God.

Thanks, but all these reports have been posted on another forum previously, though this one is from November 3rd, 2006 and is the most recent by far. There's a few more I'd like to post (~15 hit acid trip with 1 hit in the eye, accidental diphenhydramine + zolpidem trip, for instance), but I have to dig them from another forum's archives. It's for the best, I don't think *I* can take reading any more of my writing for a while, so I'm sure other people have had enough for one night.

It took a full week before I could find the words to write this, and it took another week or so before I felt like I'd taken it all in.

I don't think I came close to conveying the intensity of this experience. I've never before felt like I *needed* to kill a trip pharmaceutically before, I don't think I've ever even wanted to, and I've tripped dozens and dozens of times. But if it's not difficult it's probably not worth the effort, in my book.
 
Hehe ... the debate ensues. =D

Through personal communication, we've been debating this. I think an ecstasy kit is the best bet, since I'm fairly confident it would test positive for DOx. Here are some points:

UV fluorescence is not unique to LSD. Although DOx compounds are not particularly fluorescent under a blacklight, anything that is white will look bright. Without a comparison, it would be difficult to tell.

Neither LSD or ALD-52 should have a taste, where as DOx would be bitter. This was reported to be quite bitter via PM.

The trip lasts over 14 hours and is terminated with antipsychotics. With LSD, you're down by 14 hours. Actually, you're timeline of 9:45 p.m. to 1 p.m. is 15:15 and you still weren't down. Yeah, I know ... picky. Also, via PM there are reports of people tripping for 22 hours on this particular blotter ... not possible on LSD or ALD-52.

You mentioned to me that a significant number of people ended up in the hospital after ingesting this blotter. While that can happen with LSD, DOx's are much more likely candidates. They have a significantly steeper dose/response curve. The fact that you said you've taken 15 hits of LSD before, and that 3 of these blotter hits were stronger is pretty convincing for me.

Regardless, DOx compounds have the potential to provide beautiful and incredibly intense experiences. In retrospect, the experience itself is of importance ... the substance ingested is pretty much irrelevant. The substance is just a facilitator, the ideas facilitated are ultimately what matter.

I've been thinking doing a lot of thinking along the same lines as you recently. My last trip was on "alleged LSD", which turned out to be DOx, but it was a deeply profound experience. I need to write up a TR, but I'm still formulating my ideas that were seeded on that trip. Man, I need to get back to work.

Great report!
 
Last edited:
Wow! Sounds intense to say the least. To me that sounds almost like the polar opposite of the 'all-is-one' feeling many people describe having on LSD. God wants to end us??:( I'm intrigued by this 4 facets of God idea you have. Jung said that there are 4 modes of perception for humans: thinking, feeling, sensation and intuition. Perhaps these are linked to the 4 realities? Or are these merely a tiny slither of what existance really is?8o
 
Well I've had 2 hits of LSD last about 18 hours before... and many more hits than that last about 24 hours before sleep dep kicked in and took over. It was definitely LSD.

Curious what print this was, and if it had a bad chemical taste? OP mentioned 2 hits were underwhelming and 3 was ass-kicking so I wouldn't be surprised if it was DOC as the dose/response curve is a bit steeper than with LSD.

Conisdering the quality and depth of the trip I also wouldn't be surprised if it were DOC because I know some old school acid heads who've taken DOC in doses 4mg-8mg and said it blew all their previous LSD experiences out of the water.

Personally I prefer LSD, but maybe its just because I don't dare to take such a fat dose of DOC.

The uneven blacklight luminescence on the blotter is typical of people doing a poor job putting chems besides LSD on blotter paper. However, I have seen LSD, and rather good LSD at that, which glowed in speckles on the back of the paper. So, really, this doesn't mean anything at all either way.

...

BTW that sounds like a sweet trip, going into dualism and quantum stuff. Sounds like the type of things I think about on a nice dose of LSD!
 
doc, dob, and doi do not fluoresce under ultraviolet light.

5-meo-amt does, though, and there are plenty of reports of that shit on blotter.
 
It's not 5-meo-amt, I know that for certain. It's a gorgeous print of a faerie and hummingbirds I'm told is from the 60s and was famous then, and came off a 25x40 sheet, perforated.
 
Simply amazing...

youve inspired me to research more into quantum physics.

I think the fact that you looked at such ideas from such a different angle just makes it seem so amazing.

Lately ive been reading some psychology. i think it was spinoza who believed all is god, god is all.

anyway, great post. im sure i didnt get the half it, as only the user can.

how are you coping? usually after intense experiences i find myself in a weird state of mind for quite some time.
 
After that I was completely gone from this world

Good dose of good acid !


The first thought I had as God was "fuck. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. fucking fuck." You see, God fucked up. He didn't think ahead. Life had begun, and it was good.

Hmmm control issue perhaps ~ god didn't fuck up at all IMHO !



Single-celled organisms formed groups for survival, some competing, some cooperating. Specialization began, colonies emerged

knew that life began because of the big bang...because there was a point in time where all 4 aspects of the universe were one, the four parts combined somehow created life


Same thought from different perspective ?

I could theorise that the universe is entirely one~ but perceived differently from different points in time (which we all are at, due to physical displacement) ~even so minutely it makes a subjective difference !!

but they were like facts about a stranger...mostly meaningless and disconnected from myself

Sounds DMTesque ~ we are disconnnected ~ we glimpse *connectedness* with LSD/DMT etcetera IMHO !


I feel like acid mind raped me to show me that it still could

Yeah of course it can ~ I think it a shame you took the anti-psychotics because i was interested in what was coming next !:\


Never mind one does what one can for the best at the time !:)

Why mention ALD52 ?




BRILLLIANT REPORT
~ thank you %)
 
Last edited:
gher said:
Brilliant. I've heard of meeting God on psychedelics, but becoming Him? That's either serious delusion or one of the most profound things you'll ever experience. My bet is on the latter. This report reminds me of my first few trips when acid used to seriously kick my arse.

Yep, that's been the gist of all of my most profound trips. I found integration to be difficult until I reached a certain maturity level (since I first encountered this at 18 ), but after that level was reached life has become easier than it ever was before.

Great report! Really great, in fact. You should submit it to Erowid using the instructions I posted in the sticky thread at the top of this forum.
 
Last edited:
The four parts of yourself that you describe remind me a lot of Carl Jung's four archetypes. It would make sense that you recognize the first two which are the Animus (the male part of you), the Anima (the female part). The other two that he describes are the Shadow which is pretty much your dark side, everything bad that you have ever done. The last one is the Self (with a capital S) - this Self is the ultimate pattern; for Jung this is the God image.

He also talks about the child and divine couple archetypes but those don't seem to be of as much importance.
 
It's not ALD-52 - unless you've got microdots with a watertight coating, it's going to hydrolyse just with atmospheric moisture - it's just too eager to hydrolyse. Even if it was originally ALD-52 put onto the blotter (which I'd say chances are it isn't), it'd be LSD by the time it got into your hands
 
Echoes22 said:
The four parts of yourself that you describe remind me a lot of Carl Jung's four archetypes. It would make sense that you recognize the first two which are the Animus (the male part of you), the Anima (the female part). The other two that he describes are the Shadow which is pretty much your dark side, everything bad that you have ever done. The last one is the Self (with a capital S) - this Self is the ultimate pattern; for Jung this is the God image.

He also talks about the child and divine couple archetypes but those don't seem to be of as much importance.

Wow deja vu! An 'echo' even? Strange things are afoot.......
 
id say acid, you had such an enlightening trip and you seem to remember alot of it, and with acid, you have conceptions beyond conception, perception deeper than you could even imagine. acid doesnt do anythign to you that your brain cant do by itself, so everything you saw you were meant to see. and all is one, thats an acid conception there. i think you got lucky and got some very potent acid.
leary talks about the hardest he ever tripped he relived his whole life backwards, till he was a single celled organism.
 
Top