DOB - First time - Impressed!
2.75mg (2.0mg + 0.75 an hour later).
The day starts out sorta like this:
I'm walking outside to grab something from my car,
when, i see a flying balloon in the sky. It looks
like one of those helium balloons, running outta
gas, on its way down, with a little tiny package
with a note. I'm thinking, oh, must be some kid let
it go to see if anyone would find it.
Well to my suprise, a bird flys by, pops the balloon
right above me, and it drops, package practially
lands in my hand.
So first I read the note, took it out of the card,
all it says on it is, "Gift from universe: The vial
contains exactly 2.75mL of water with 2.75mg of DOB
/ 4-bromo-2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine". Then there is
a little picture of Jesus, with the "JESUS stamp of
quality control" image and the image of him with a
thumbs up signal. Wow! What a nice suprise!
So I figure maybe the stars/sun/planets/planes lined
up just right, and it was supposed to land in my
hand. So, I think hmm, well i'll try 2.0mg after
reading some information, and I can always save the
.75 for a test to see if a lowish dose would be good
for some mental clarity/stimulation at a later time.
So i measure out the 2mL put it into a cup with some
water/lemon juice shit and drink it down. No taste
noticeable.
----
So that was at about 3:30pm. I believe even after
10 minutes after taking it, i noticed i was somewhat
"off baseline" although couldn't necessarily tell
you how i noticed really. A half hour later it was
defnitely on its way, colors look nice, reminds me
of the way 2c-b changes colors.
About an hour later, I was definitely enjoying
myself, but, I knew that I would be enjoying it even
more with the extra .75mg... so, at about 4:30pm, I
took the remaining .75mL.
I like that it does come on relatively fast,
compared to most of the 2c's, although it takes a
good few hours to get up to a 'plateau'. The
visuals were very nice, did remind me somewhat of
2c-b, but this had a different character. I'm not
sure how to explain the OEV's..they never got crazy
intense. I noticed the ..moving and stuff, seemed a
lot 'smoother' or something, much more pleasant eye
candy effect than its non-amphetamine cousin (really
all the 2c's). Something about it, really did
remind me of good old acid. I haven't had real LSD
in about 4 years or so (none around here), but out
of all of the PEA's, this one impressed me, where
usually I think of the PEA's (meaning mostly the 2c-
family) are more like, "toys", "tools" for creative
work, even 2c-e, I can't imagine that ever coming
close to LSD. Honestly, the OEV's were nothing
super awesome or anything, until I toked on some
good pot later on in the night.
What REALLY impressed me was, all the vision's I
saw. Now, I should have picked another day maybe
because I think i was lacking a little sleep. I've
read and sorta expected the DOB to have an
amphetamine like stimulation. But I do have
somewhat of a tolerance to amphetamines so its
probably why I didnt find it stimulating. Although,
part of the 'come up' phase had somewhat of what i
would call, a 'caffeine' like jitteryness, or, not
really super 'jittery' but restless, but, at the
same time, since i was tired, i felt like i could
have dosed right off during this "jitteryness".
Now, a lot of this had to do with the real nice
strong euphoria from the DOB. The euphoria reminded
me of 2c-b (although I haven't had that in a while
also) somewhat. Basically for me the euphoria was
overriding the little stimulation that might have
been there (just wasn't strong enough probably
because of my tolerance to amphet's) so at some
point.. maybe i'm guessing around 5:30-6pm (didnt
keep notes but did check the time once in a while) I
was tired so I decided to lay down and close my
eyes, checking out the CEV's.
Now, i'm not sure when I "fell asleep", or if i even
did or what. I know I was enjoying the CEV's but I
was sleepy, and I believe I saw most of the
beautiful, incredible "visions" when I was "sort of
asleep". I remember repeatedly "waking up" and
going back into this state of sleep/whatever more
than a few times. I cannot even explain most of
what I saw. I remember a LOT of wonderful fractal
visuals, fractal universes that my brain generated
and I was flying through/visiting. I know I felt
like i visited these universes, and there were
"alien" creatures there that lived in these
universes (meaning they were real, living, things
inside these universes, not really part of our own,
except that maybe these universes were like
mini-universes inside our own universe, universes
that my own head was generating - using the same
"fractal math" as our own). I had the idea that,
its very possible, that our own universe, could very
well be just a small universe inside a bigger one,
and some "aliens" could be viewing us just like I
was viewing these mini ones in my own mind.
I remember seeing, thousands, if not millions of
these. I woke up one of the times, with a vision of
some complex 3d fractal, on the left side was a "T"
which meant tryptamine made out of some strange
colorful fractal, and on the right side a "P" which
meant phenethylamine also a wonderful looking
fractal, and this wierd idea that this DOB was
acting both like a tryptamine and phenethylamine on
the receptors in my head. I guess compared to the
many psychedelics of both types i've used in the
past - hard to explain this "vision". I also
remember seeing this as I woke up, but then right
after as I was going back to "sleep". I also heard
what was like a voice, saying something like
"tryptamine phenethylamine" over and over, faster
and faster, til I either "woke up" or went back to
sleep and the vision faded. I remember waking up
out of this the final time, thinking "WOW", and
saying I had just watched 50 thousand fractal
universes be born and disappear within a relatively
short amount of time.
Now around this time a friend had just showed up,
and so I got up, and there were a couple other
friends (not tripping) sort of in and out of sleep
in my room. So I got up and said I would join my
friend who came over for a "smoke" outside on the
porch, as I wanted to check out the outside view
anyway. He wanted to tell me about his recent road
trip and I let him know I was tripping and tomorrow
would be a better time to talk about that stuff, and
told him I just saw a billion universes/etc (haha).
I was outside and just still trying to
remember/think about what I had seen while I was
"sleeping". I found myself quite giggly and even
cracking up somewhat, i'm not sure what time this
was as I didnt check the time but i'd guess around
6:30-7:30...8pm latest. We talked a little bit and
I was sort of laughing a lot, joking with my friend
saying things like "sorry C, I am just not in the
right mindset to hear about those...simple humanoid
things like trips out of state, as I just saw like,
50 billion fractal universes, maaaan!". He totally
understood and laughed, we finished our "smoke" and
he then soon took off back home. I stayed outside
for another 5 minutes or so, looking around and
mostly thinking to myself trying to remember more of
what I saw while "sleeping". I was definitely
tripping strong in my "sleep", it was not like how
normally I can fall asleep while tripping and have
mostly normal dreams/sleep.
While being awake, the OEV's were not particularly
"strong" at all, the great color enhancement was
there and sound/music was definitely
altered/enhanced. This stuff definitely had the
"giggle" factor, I dont remember laughing like that
since i've last had real LSD (LONG time), or
mushrooms (4-ho-mipt has this somewhat but not like
'shrooms/acid).
I know sometime around 10:30 I was not tripping much
at all, although I still had that euphoria which
lasted a little into the next day. Now, I still had
some trails and was playing with a cat with the
mouse pointer just watching the trails. Now,
somewhere around this time, I decided to take a
couple hits of pot, I rarely smoke much now and this
was REALLY good/potent pot, so after two hits I was
surely "baked". Now that brought back the trip.
Upon checking out the wall, there were lots of clear
moving patterns. They reminded me of, what I would
see on LSD. They didn't look much like the patterns
I would typically see on any 2c compound, they
looked more like a tryptamine (2c or tryptamine plus
pot) but not exactly. I guess I would say that the
DOB (and hopefully more amphetamine analogs) seemed
more generic and "touched" a more variety of
receptors in my mind. Less "specific" in
psychedelic effects. More like acid. All of the
2c's that i've tried (2c-b, 2c-c, 2c-d, 2c-e, 2c-i,
2c-p, 2c-t-2, 2c-t-21) seem to have that "2c
signature" while all the tryptamines have that
"tryptamine signature". This seemed to have effects
of both, and of its "own signature".
Soon after toking on the pot, I talked a little bit
with the friends that were over, and eventually laid
down and dosed off (around 11-12). I didnt have any
"psychedelic dreams" like earlier.
------------
Now if the universe decides to have another balloon
fly by and I catch it, i'm thinking that I should
take 3.0mg at least, maybe even 3.25...3.5mg. Also
I would want to take this upon waking up, after a
real good nights sleep so I wont get tired.
Depending on how strong the trip is, I can see
mixing this with another PEA like 2c-c or something
else to really bring out the visuals, or a
tryptamine also. Although, I bet if i were to smoke
some pot a few hours after dosing, that would
probably really bring out visuals also. I'm not
sure if i would like the MJ euphoria + DOB euphoria
as it might just make me want to sleep..hehe.
I'm really curious about the other amphetamine
analogs now. I really did like the effects of this,
although it would be nice to be able to see all
those fractals and stuff while awake.
I have read about people taking low doses of this,
for a long lasting amphetamine type wakefulness
effect. Hmm I don't see that working with me, but I
do have some resistance to amph's.
Not sure what else to add right now, other than that
the trip sure did not seem to last quite as long as
I expected, although, I think after the main effects
are gone, I can see adding another substance (like
the pot) to really bring it back later on. It was
still there, I could feel the euphoria but after 6-8
hrs or so most of the visuals were gone.
(Note: I AM 99.9999% sure this was DOB..
the
universe said so hehe)
---- Edit:
Wanted to add.. after a lot of searching and reading, i'm thinking the next trial with DOB i should take more around 4mg or so... I dont see any reason not to, just because Pihkal's doses are listed up to 3.0mg doesn't mean thats too high - after some searching i've found some info on people talking about how great this one is around 5-6mg, accidental ingestion of 50-60mg, etc. I am thinking a lot more of the magic of this one will show on doses above 3mg. Anyone have anything to say about this / dosage ? It will be a little while before I do take this again but I will try and keep better notes next time, and post a report especially if i dose more than 3mg since there are not any easily found reports about that anywhere.
2.75mg (2.0mg + 0.75 an hour later).
The day starts out sorta like this:
I'm walking outside to grab something from my car,
when, i see a flying balloon in the sky. It looks
like one of those helium balloons, running outta
gas, on its way down, with a little tiny package
with a note. I'm thinking, oh, must be some kid let
it go to see if anyone would find it.
Well to my suprise, a bird flys by, pops the balloon
right above me, and it drops, package practially
lands in my hand.
So first I read the note, took it out of the card,
all it says on it is, "Gift from universe: The vial
contains exactly 2.75mL of water with 2.75mg of DOB
/ 4-bromo-2,5-Dimethoxyamphetamine". Then there is
a little picture of Jesus, with the "JESUS stamp of
quality control" image and the image of him with a
thumbs up signal. Wow! What a nice suprise!
So I figure maybe the stars/sun/planets/planes lined
up just right, and it was supposed to land in my
hand. So, I think hmm, well i'll try 2.0mg after
reading some information, and I can always save the
.75 for a test to see if a lowish dose would be good
for some mental clarity/stimulation at a later time.
So i measure out the 2mL put it into a cup with some
water/lemon juice shit and drink it down. No taste
noticeable.
----
So that was at about 3:30pm. I believe even after
10 minutes after taking it, i noticed i was somewhat
"off baseline" although couldn't necessarily tell
you how i noticed really. A half hour later it was
defnitely on its way, colors look nice, reminds me
of the way 2c-b changes colors.
About an hour later, I was definitely enjoying
myself, but, I knew that I would be enjoying it even
more with the extra .75mg... so, at about 4:30pm, I
took the remaining .75mL.
I like that it does come on relatively fast,
compared to most of the 2c's, although it takes a
good few hours to get up to a 'plateau'. The
visuals were very nice, did remind me somewhat of
2c-b, but this had a different character. I'm not
sure how to explain the OEV's..they never got crazy
intense. I noticed the ..moving and stuff, seemed a
lot 'smoother' or something, much more pleasant eye
candy effect than its non-amphetamine cousin (really
all the 2c's). Something about it, really did
remind me of good old acid. I haven't had real LSD
in about 4 years or so (none around here), but out
of all of the PEA's, this one impressed me, where
usually I think of the PEA's (meaning mostly the 2c-
family) are more like, "toys", "tools" for creative
work, even 2c-e, I can't imagine that ever coming
close to LSD. Honestly, the OEV's were nothing
super awesome or anything, until I toked on some
good pot later on in the night.
What REALLY impressed me was, all the vision's I
saw. Now, I should have picked another day maybe
because I think i was lacking a little sleep. I've
read and sorta expected the DOB to have an
amphetamine like stimulation. But I do have
somewhat of a tolerance to amphetamines so its
probably why I didnt find it stimulating. Although,
part of the 'come up' phase had somewhat of what i
would call, a 'caffeine' like jitteryness, or, not
really super 'jittery' but restless, but, at the
same time, since i was tired, i felt like i could
have dosed right off during this "jitteryness".
Now, a lot of this had to do with the real nice
strong euphoria from the DOB. The euphoria reminded
me of 2c-b (although I haven't had that in a while
also) somewhat. Basically for me the euphoria was
overriding the little stimulation that might have
been there (just wasn't strong enough probably
because of my tolerance to amphet's) so at some
point.. maybe i'm guessing around 5:30-6pm (didnt
keep notes but did check the time once in a while) I
was tired so I decided to lay down and close my
eyes, checking out the CEV's.
Now, i'm not sure when I "fell asleep", or if i even
did or what. I know I was enjoying the CEV's but I
was sleepy, and I believe I saw most of the
beautiful, incredible "visions" when I was "sort of
asleep". I remember repeatedly "waking up" and
going back into this state of sleep/whatever more
than a few times. I cannot even explain most of
what I saw. I remember a LOT of wonderful fractal
visuals, fractal universes that my brain generated
and I was flying through/visiting. I know I felt
like i visited these universes, and there were
"alien" creatures there that lived in these
universes (meaning they were real, living, things
inside these universes, not really part of our own,
except that maybe these universes were like
mini-universes inside our own universe, universes
that my own head was generating - using the same
"fractal math" as our own). I had the idea that,
its very possible, that our own universe, could very
well be just a small universe inside a bigger one,
and some "aliens" could be viewing us just like I
was viewing these mini ones in my own mind.
I remember seeing, thousands, if not millions of
these. I woke up one of the times, with a vision of
some complex 3d fractal, on the left side was a "T"
which meant tryptamine made out of some strange
colorful fractal, and on the right side a "P" which
meant phenethylamine also a wonderful looking
fractal, and this wierd idea that this DOB was
acting both like a tryptamine and phenethylamine on
the receptors in my head. I guess compared to the
many psychedelics of both types i've used in the
past - hard to explain this "vision". I also
remember seeing this as I woke up, but then right
after as I was going back to "sleep". I also heard
what was like a voice, saying something like
"tryptamine phenethylamine" over and over, faster
and faster, til I either "woke up" or went back to
sleep and the vision faded. I remember waking up
out of this the final time, thinking "WOW", and
saying I had just watched 50 thousand fractal
universes be born and disappear within a relatively
short amount of time.
Now around this time a friend had just showed up,
and so I got up, and there were a couple other
friends (not tripping) sort of in and out of sleep
in my room. So I got up and said I would join my
friend who came over for a "smoke" outside on the
porch, as I wanted to check out the outside view
anyway. He wanted to tell me about his recent road
trip and I let him know I was tripping and tomorrow
would be a better time to talk about that stuff, and
told him I just saw a billion universes/etc (haha).
I was outside and just still trying to
remember/think about what I had seen while I was
"sleeping". I found myself quite giggly and even
cracking up somewhat, i'm not sure what time this
was as I didnt check the time but i'd guess around
6:30-7:30...8pm latest. We talked a little bit and
I was sort of laughing a lot, joking with my friend
saying things like "sorry C, I am just not in the
right mindset to hear about those...simple humanoid
things like trips out of state, as I just saw like,
50 billion fractal universes, maaaan!". He totally
understood and laughed, we finished our "smoke" and
he then soon took off back home. I stayed outside
for another 5 minutes or so, looking around and
mostly thinking to myself trying to remember more of
what I saw while "sleeping". I was definitely
tripping strong in my "sleep", it was not like how
normally I can fall asleep while tripping and have
mostly normal dreams/sleep.
While being awake, the OEV's were not particularly
"strong" at all, the great color enhancement was
there and sound/music was definitely
altered/enhanced. This stuff definitely had the
"giggle" factor, I dont remember laughing like that
since i've last had real LSD (LONG time), or
mushrooms (4-ho-mipt has this somewhat but not like
'shrooms/acid).
I know sometime around 10:30 I was not tripping much
at all, although I still had that euphoria which
lasted a little into the next day. Now, I still had
some trails and was playing with a cat with the
mouse pointer just watching the trails. Now,
somewhere around this time, I decided to take a
couple hits of pot, I rarely smoke much now and this
was REALLY good/potent pot, so after two hits I was
surely "baked". Now that brought back the trip.
Upon checking out the wall, there were lots of clear
moving patterns. They reminded me of, what I would
see on LSD. They didn't look much like the patterns
I would typically see on any 2c compound, they
looked more like a tryptamine (2c or tryptamine plus
pot) but not exactly. I guess I would say that the
DOB (and hopefully more amphetamine analogs) seemed
more generic and "touched" a more variety of
receptors in my mind. Less "specific" in
psychedelic effects. More like acid. All of the
2c's that i've tried (2c-b, 2c-c, 2c-d, 2c-e, 2c-i,
2c-p, 2c-t-2, 2c-t-21) seem to have that "2c
signature" while all the tryptamines have that
"tryptamine signature". This seemed to have effects
of both, and of its "own signature".
Soon after toking on the pot, I talked a little bit
with the friends that were over, and eventually laid
down and dosed off (around 11-12). I didnt have any
"psychedelic dreams" like earlier.
------------
Now if the universe decides to have another balloon
fly by and I catch it, i'm thinking that I should
take 3.0mg at least, maybe even 3.25...3.5mg. Also
I would want to take this upon waking up, after a
real good nights sleep so I wont get tired.
Depending on how strong the trip is, I can see
mixing this with another PEA like 2c-c or something
else to really bring out the visuals, or a
tryptamine also. Although, I bet if i were to smoke
some pot a few hours after dosing, that would
probably really bring out visuals also. I'm not
sure if i would like the MJ euphoria + DOB euphoria
as it might just make me want to sleep..hehe.
I'm really curious about the other amphetamine
analogs now. I really did like the effects of this,
although it would be nice to be able to see all
those fractals and stuff while awake.
I have read about people taking low doses of this,
for a long lasting amphetamine type wakefulness
effect. Hmm I don't see that working with me, but I
do have some resistance to amph's.
Not sure what else to add right now, other than that
the trip sure did not seem to last quite as long as
I expected, although, I think after the main effects
are gone, I can see adding another substance (like
the pot) to really bring it back later on. It was
still there, I could feel the euphoria but after 6-8
hrs or so most of the visuals were gone.
(Note: I AM 99.9999% sure this was DOB..
the universe said so hehe)
---- Edit:
Wanted to add.. after a lot of searching and reading, i'm thinking the next trial with DOB i should take more around 4mg or so... I dont see any reason not to, just because Pihkal's doses are listed up to 3.0mg doesn't mean thats too high - after some searching i've found some info on people talking about how great this one is around 5-6mg, accidental ingestion of 50-60mg, etc. I am thinking a lot more of the magic of this one will show on doses above 3mg. Anyone have anything to say about this / dosage ? It will be a little while before I do take this again but I will try and keep better notes next time, and post a report especially if i dose more than 3mg since there are not any easily found reports about that anywhere.
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