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Do you trip harder on lsd or shrooms

Higherfocus420

Higherfocus420

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What do you lot think make you trip out harder and take you further and what do you pefer I personally think that with potent shrooms make me trip harder in the mind and are more spiritual and more lesson oriented and have the potiential to take you to some far out states further place where acid I find produce more visual for me at lower dosages and are more reliable for a strong trip where as mushrooms are a bit hit and miss only if they are potent and you have enough so I prefer acid and find acid more fun Energetic suitable for going festivals and being around people where shrooms more stoney sit back and look at the clouds or look within love them both tho and they quite similar what are you peoples thoughts ??
 
TripSitterNZ said:
Both can induce very strong trips its all about dosing. LSD past 1000 ug seems to beyond every other psychedelic though.
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This.

It's completely subjective and dose oriented. Personally I would say LSD makes you trip more, but shrooms can be more revelatory at lower doses... but this all gets jumbled around when you higher the dosages....

Generally I get way more fun and "trip" out of LSD at reasonable doses, but shrooms make me think more about myself and my life at lower doses... at higher doses each gets so fucking chaotic its hard to say which is stronger. Again, it's so subjective.

My personal opinion is that LSD is significantly more recreational and "fun" compared to mushrooms. In high "heroic" doses, LSD becomes much stronger and mind melting than mushrooms though, in a sense.

I do not enjoy taking mushrooms in a festival setting. Mushrooms are a "by yourself in a dark room type" thing.
 
Also, the duration of LSD is so much more like a marathon than going for a mushroom jog. That alone can add to the intensity. For me, LSD has taken me farther and wider, but baeocystis mushrooms were so totally crazed that I have to agree with the aboves - dosage kinda rules it all, save for duration (if you want back down, but still have 9 hours left in the trip, well . . .).

You didn’t ask, and prolly know already but, DMT.
 
Total breakthroughs are rare to come by even on very large doses of LSD 500-1000 ug range but man if you ever do breakthrough the veil on lsd its like the DMT breakthrough for the entire peak of the LSD shit is crazy.

DMT die and be reborn into a new reality hands down full on beyond anything While the real world is still a bit of a faded background on very extreme lsd doses there is nothing left of this reality with DMT.

LSD is still quite unpredictable sometimes trips can be very just fun and not outer spacey when going into it looking for intense spiritual experinces. Then other times u drop a tab to have fun and masturbate to porn or something and end up getting obliterated and meeting god.
 
Definitely LSD, it is readily able to overpower SSRI blockade which shrooms (maybe 7g of self-cultivated cubensis) weren't for me. Also the visuals are more complex objects than just colorful patterns but less warm colorized. Shrooms are more warm and euphoric, LSD is more energizing and remarkably clear (were just 200mcg of 1cP-LSD though but in relation to the visual intensity it was a very lucid experience).
 
TripSitterNZ said:
Both can induce very strong trips its all about dosing. LSD past 1000 ug seems to beyond every other psychedelic though.
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Yeah 1000ug if does sound pretty intense lol not sure the highest I’ve been Most I’ve taken on multiple occasions is 6 hits from a vial and I’ve done a wash on two empty vials and that was the most intense acid trip I’ve had and one point my hole vision was encompassed in visuals and had to lie down but after peaked I was pretty functional where as shrooms has taken me to dmt level haha but some shrooms are weak as fuk and similar in intensity to a weed edible
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Even Ayahuasca or DMT? What happens at 1,000ug of LSD?
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its a level that is pretty much psychosis no longer human no longer anything on this earth just a infinite connected mind tripping through infinity. You can live trillions of years die trillions of times live as every human ever. Anything is possible nothing is off limits. Some people are more resistance to lsd though than others and some are very sensitive to psychedelics. 1000 ug is beyond 5 meo pharamhuasca and is pretty much like a DMT breakthrough. You are in hyperspace but way longer than the 5 mins the dmt gives you even though time gets fucked up in dmt. You are instead blown out of your body for a 10-12 hour peak and the offset is still very intense visuals til you manage to sleep.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
its a level that is pretty much psychosis no longer human no longer anything on this earth just a infinite connected mind tripping through infinity. You can live trillions of years die trillions of times live as every human ever. Anything is possible nothing is off limits. Some people are more resistance to lsd though than others and some are very sensitive to psychedelics. 1000 ug is beyond 5 meo pharamhuasca and is pretty much like a DMT breakthrough. You are in hyperspace but way longer than the 5 mins the dmt gives you even though time gets fucked up in dmt. You are instead blown out of your body for a 10-12 hour peak and the offset is still very intense visuals til you manage to sleep.
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So the old saying of 'Nothing is true, everything is permitted' really is true!

Also what do you know, believe, or theorise happens when we as humans or any living thing dies?
 
TripSitterNZ said:
its a level that is pretty much psychosis no longer human no longer anything on this earth just a infinite connected mind tripping through infinity. You can live trillions of years die trillions of times live as every human ever. Anything is possible nothing is off limits. Some people are more resistance to lsd though than others and some are very sensitive to psychedelics. 1000 ug is beyond 5 meo pharamhuasca and is pretty much like a DMT breakthrough. You are in hyperspace but way longer than the 5 mins the dmt gives you even though time gets fucked up in dmt. You are instead blown out of your body for a 10-12 hour peak and the offset is still very intense visuals til you manage to sleep.
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Do you think there’s anything special to be gained at such doses that a more moderate dose couldn’t?
 
Maybe the tunnel and eventual whiteout of dmt or ultra high doses of other classics are a simulation of those final moments before or just after death?
A way of previewing/preparing for that inevitable day maybe?

I’ve never done 1000, but close at 800 mcg and had real trouble recalling the trip in a meaningful way. But the “insights” from that trip, and others like it, remain as more feeling shifts and allowed a total reconstruction of me in my world model.
I’m not sure, and couldn’t know, if this was a benefit in all regards, but I live and think differently after those experiences.
Always takes me a couple weeks to piece those trips together, and still I feel that I’m never able to fully conceptualize all the things seen or learned.

Others have had perfect “journey” style trips with little or no confusion and are able to learn great things from mega dose trips.
Me, I think I’m learning more from micro and small dose trips, although it may have been beneficial to have experienced higher doses in the past, which could act as a neurological pointer with microdoses acting as a proxy allowing recall/integration from past larger trips.

Sorry, I’m bad at explaining things right now (hint, hint 50 mcg eth-lad day :))
 
DrumTripper said:
Maybe the tunnel and eventual whiteout of dmt or ultra high doses of other classics are a simulation of those final moments before or just after death?
A way of previewing/preparing for that inevitable day maybe?

I’ve never done 1000, but close at 800 mcg and had real trouble recalling the trip in a meaningful way. But the “insights” from that trip, and others like it, remain as more feeling shifts and allowed a total reconstruction of me in my world model.
I’m not sure, and couldn’t know, if this was a benefit in all regards, but I live and think differently after those experiences.
Always takes me a couple weeks to piece those trips together, and still I feel that I’m never able to fully conceptualize all the things seen or learned.

Others have had perfect “journey” style trips with little or no confusion and are able to learn great things from mega dose trips.
Me, I think I’m learning more from micro and small dose trips, although it may have been beneficial to have experienced higher doses in the past, which could act as a neurological pointer with microdoses acting as a proxy allowing recall/integration from past larger trips.

Sorry, I’m bad at explaining things right now (hint, hint 50 mcg eth-lad day :))
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No worries, you're still definitely getting your point across 😉
 
DrumTripper said:
Maybe the tunnel and eventual whiteout of dmt or ultra high doses of other classics are a simulation of those final moments before or just after death?
A way of previewing/preparing for that inevitable day maybe?

I’ve never done 1000, but close at 800 mcg and had real trouble recalling the trip in a meaningful way. But the “insights” from that trip, and others like it, remain as more feeling shifts and allowed a total reconstruction of me in my world model.
I’m not sure, and couldn’t know, if this was a benefit in all regards, but I live and think differently after those experiences.
Always takes me a couple weeks to piece those trips together, and still I feel that I’m never able to fully conceptualize all the things seen or learned.

Others have had perfect “journey” style trips with little or no confusion and are able to learn great things from mega dose trips.
Me, I think I’m learning more from micro and small dose trips, although it may have been beneficial to have experienced higher doses in the past, which could act as a neurological pointer with microdoses acting as a proxy allowing recall/integration from past larger trips.

Sorry, I’m bad at explaining things right now (hint, hint 50 mcg eth-lad day :))
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Yeah I’m with you on the smaller doses. Most I’ve done is 400 ug and that was basically thought loops for 6 hours lol. I find I can better harness the insights from trips below 150 ug. 100 is probably my sweet spot. Rather than obliterating the ego I find that being to able to integrate the ego into the present moment is much more beneficial, at least for me
 
thegreenhand said:
integrate the ego into the present moment
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Well put! That is exactly what I meant. Also under 50 (for me) seems to be fairly predictabl, albeit with some surprises here and there. I don’t think I can do more than 100 anymore, this 50 today hit me like a ton of hay!

Prolly my sweet spot is 40 nowadays. 50 being undeniable for me ( and those around me ), 40 being museum level. Or maybe I should trip sans cannabis and re-judge that.
Sorry, wandering off topic a bit here! 🧵
 
@DrumTripper Haha, rare day off for me today! But 55ug 1cP yesterday.

Worst part of acid for me, I always feel excetionally tired and fatigued for a day afterwards, next or following day. Often quite irritable too.

Only really with the heavier trips though, like 250ug plus.

50ug trips are actually lovely.

I never tried ETH LAD, but can get some from my Dutch guys if I want to try it.
 
DrumTripper said:
Well put! That is exactly what I meant. Also under 50 (for me) seems to be fairly predictabl, albeit with some surprises here and there. I don’t think I can do more than 100 anymore, this 50 today hit me like a ton of hay!

Prolly my sweet spot is 40 nowadays. 50 being undeniable for me ( and those around me ), 40 being museum level. Or maybe I should trip sans cannabis and re-judge that.
Sorry, wandering off topic a bit here! 🧵
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Haha cannabis certainly is a big factor. I can’t handle it all on psychedelics and honestly it even alone anymore

100 is my max for being able to function and socialize with the rest of the world and even that is pushing it. It’s a perfect rave dose for me as the stimulation allows for prolonged dancing and if I should have talk to people (ew gross lol) then I can if really needed
 
Damn i thought heroin/meth/cocaine IV users were hardcotr but you guys are hardcore on a whole different league. Respect, i get scared as fuck on 150ug. I can't even imagine a 500+ ug dose.
 
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