Mental Health do you think theres any helping someone who decides to shoot up?

[kushblowin]

one of my good friends died from using needles. i kinda knew he was fucked because even when we were super young he would get high off ANYTHING. he would huff axe cans, duster, smoke cigarettes you could put anything in front of him and say "this will get you so high youll almost die" and hell take it without even looking the name up like really that fucked.

he was doing good and he only drank alcohol and smoked weed every time i went to hang out we had a blast just laughing our asses off all night. he drank a LOT but never crazy black out just until he fell asleep. he moved and i hadn't seen him in a in awhile and i showed up to his backdoor and knocked and he answered and i just knew something was wrong. his nails were long and gross, greasy hair, the only time ive ever seen him that bad, face not shaved, holes all over his clothes, looking horrible.

i was hanging out with him and then sure enough the local addicts got ahold of him. he was shooting up suboxone all day every day sitting on the couch shivering and he was just doing dumb shit like leaving needles laying around getting dirty and shooting himself full of cotton on accident and fucking around with the needle to gross people out. i kept telling him hey man we had fun on weed and alcohol why dont you just do that shit and he wouldnt listen just kept talking about how he needs subs to feel normal and he was asking his mom for money for his kids clothes to buy more pills.

i didnt hear from him at all for months because he never has a phone hes just always getting high. i get on my phone about to go to bed there it is. i got 6 messages telling me hes dead and he was in the hospital from an infection for 2 weeks in a coma. he wouldnt listen to anything i say or just go back to smoking weed even though it didnt look like he was having fun at all he looked horrible. its just depressing because whenever we hung out all he did was smoke weed but as soon as he moved it was over.

ive taken opiates but god damn only pharma pills and i know thats how it always goes but just as someone who never got addicted myself i simply cant understand the mindset behind it unless you just really want to die. i tried the subs 3-4 times and every time just fucking puked everywhere nastiest shit ive ever touched. you couldnt pay me to get addicted to suboxone yet people do this willingly. what the fuck is so fun about being dope sick and throwing up? i LOVE opiates but never enough to puke and feel sick every day and ruin them forever for myself. opiates arent THAT great.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I am sorry for your loss. To answer your question, yes, IV users are not long gone or too far to help, but it's certainly can be a red flag.

When someone starts IVing Suboxone this is a huge red flag. Suboxone is designed not to be injected. If I knew someone doing this I would be extremely concerned. It's certainly a "last resort" sort of thing...

Can you help them? Yes.. and no. You can love and support them but that's it. The only person in the entire universe that can make them stop is THEM. And YOU should never feel guilty for what happened. It really has nothing to do with your relationship.

You need boundaries in such situations lest they drag you down with them.

There are 3 types of opiate users:
1. Boring, what's the big deal?
2. Wow this shit is amazing but not about to ruin my life over it
3. Give me heroin until I fucking die


You seem to be a lucky #2. However do not take this as advice to keep doing them. There is a reason I got off heroin 10 years ago. There is a reason I am still alive and not one of the 7 friends I've lost due to heroin/fent.

I am so sorry for your loss my friend. I mourn my friends. They are also a reason to keep going. Personally, I've found purpose through it all, the horror of my druggy life.

Peace

 

[kushblowin]

I am sorry for your loss. To answer your question, yes, IV users are not long gone or too far to help, but it's certainly can be a red flag.

When someone starts IVing Suboxone this is a huge red flag. Suboxone is designed not to be injected. If I knew someone doing this I would be extremely concerned. It's certainly a "last resort" sort of thing...

Can you help them? Yes.. and no. You can love and support them but that's it. The only person in the entire universe that can make them stop is THEM. And YOU should never feel guilty for what happened. It really has nothing to do with your relationship.

You need boundaries in such situations lest they drag you down with them.

There are 3 types of opiate users:
1. Boring, what's the big deal?
2. Wow this shit is amazing but not about to ruin my life over it
3. Give me heroin until I fucking die


You seem to be a lucky #2. However do not take this as advice to keep doing them. There is a reason I got off heroin 10 years ago. There is a reason I am still alive and not one of the 7 friends I've lost due to heroin/fent.

I am so sorry for your loss my friend. I mourn my friends. They are also a reason to keep going. Personally, I've found purpose through it all, the horror of my druggy life.

Peace

thank you! trust me if i ever do opiates its going to be a once in a blue moon with pharma grade european blisters. i get dope sick way too easy and paranoid. i get migraines if i abuse opiates and its just fucking awful throwing up everywhere i will never do them past moderate use.

 

[Jabberwocky]

OP, the grim truth of the matter is there is virtually nothing you could do to save him, nor is this somehow your fault in any way. Do not think this way.

Honor him by choosing to not go down his path, practice harm reduction and spread awareness, so that may other junkies not follow him. This is what I chose to do with my own life, and it makes my losses make more sense and gives me purpose.

Heroin took my friends and almost myself. This is how I battle against it and avenge my friends. Harm reduction. Sober from heroin 10 years.

Stay strong.