Do you think the pain goes away when if you end your life?

I take a spiritual stance in regards to suicide, which you may or may not agree with. Think of all the billions of life forms on Earth - it is very rare to be manifested consciousness in the form of a human being among all the other animals. Do not take for granted this wonderful opportunity. I consider myself extremely lucky to be a human with self awareness. I also believe in reincarnation, and that what you do in this life has an affect on what form you will take next time around. Suicide is akin to murder and is probably the worst thing you can do in regards to spiritual progression towards the ultimate goal of leaving this reality as we know it and merging back into the universal mind, in which case there will be nothing but eternal bliss.

So if you kill yourself, you might end up a snake, or a worm or something. In that case, you won't have much self awareness, so there won't be any pain apart from the drive for survival. Eventually, I believe you will wind up human another time around, or some other advanced form of self aware life on another planet somewhere in the vast beyond, after you pay your dues to the universe. The only way to end pain forever is through total acceptance.
 
dang dude, you're enlightened for sure! wow. great post about matter not being able to be destroyed. this is true i believe. no you wont feel pain anymore. but you will go thru this same shit in your next lifetime if you dont take care of it in this lifetime. then you will feel the pain in your next lifetime and until you take care of it, your KARMA. do not fear, fear. fear is existing, experiencing and living. fear is good! not bad. its really just an instinct, and our domestication has made us fear, fear.


Donnie-

I know NOTHING about this though Ive thought about death ALOT but one thing I do know-

'Better the devil you know
Than the devil you dont know...'

My mood is okay at the moment but when Im very low I know im kicking and screaming looking for a way out of the pain and confusion.
Do I believe we create alot of it ourselves? Yeah, definitely! Thats not to say most of us dont experience much more than our fair share of crap from society, sometimes I read posts here or listen/read/watch peoples stories of what they went through and think what the hell am I so miserable about, im such an emotional lightweight and so self absorbed that I cant see that my suffering is so unnecessarily dramatic!? ...However, pain is pain in its original non-judged state it is the same for everyone and it is one of the common denominators that we all share as human beings. How would we empathise without it? How would we love without it? How would we appreciate the times (when in it's absence) we feel relief?
From a Mothers labour of Birth to great Art, Music and Magnanomous Social Movements throughout History-all the fruits of Suffering.

One Scientific TheoryEnergy,like Matter cannot be created or destroyed, only converted from one form to another
Looking at my own cyclical feelings - Pain>Anger>Sadness>Introspection>Understanding> Creativity>Relief>Contentment >Doubt>Confusion>Pain
-If this Theory is the case, then Pain is a Natural cathartic force that Society has conditioned us to believe to be something to be 'Feared' and not Embraced with a view to understanding ourselves.
This Fear is used to control people - 'Succeed at any cost!', Win/Fail labels, 'Losers only have themselves to blame! 'Its better to burn out than Fade Away' etc etc all polarised socially conditioned modes of thought that keep the Economy going and allow people to not face up to other valuable dimensions of reality that need to be listened to and therefore prevent us from seeing the freedom we have to be ourselves whether we are accepted by the (A)Moral Majority or not. Everyone is Afraid of pain and powerful facets of Society have tapped into this to control the masses -none of us are immune. Without feeling the pain of these Socially constructed pressures and understanding the destructive will they attempt to instill we will never be able to admit that they are manipulative and Excessive and rebel against them
Wouldnt it be a pity to leave this existence not honouring the basic essential 'natural' pain that has intended to be our great Teacher? Whether it exists after our body has ceased to exist I dont know but something in my gut tells me the True Nature of Pain is grossly Misunderstood.
Take care of yourself Donny...<3



Sorry got a bit off topic!:\
 
having overdosed numerous times on heroin (30+ stopped counting at 30) and actually had my heart stop from a cannonball (meth+coke+h shot) I can say there is nothingness when you die. my sponsor died from a meth overdose (was revived) and said the same thing. death is an eternal absence. when revived, it feels as if you just blinked your eyed more or less. suicide is considered a very selfish and self centered act, as you leave a tremendous and painful burden on those surrounding you...
 
I consider an od to be when a person is unresponsive, labored breathing, and unconscious. I was brought back with narcan from other people over 5 times. all the other times I was out for over 3+ hours and someone woke. not fatal overdoses but still overdoses.
 
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