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Heroin Do you think i will withdrawal?

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Hello
Come the first time to this site.
I had five years sober. And I had a relapse for about a month, half a gram of heroin a day.
I had three days on subutex, then had a relapse one day, and then again i had 7 days clean taking subutex, and then yesterday i had another relapse, today i have no drugs or subutex, and i do not want to, but i 'm scared to withdrawal, what do you think? I'm feeling very anxious, and i do not know if the symptoms are real or mental. I'm very sad with this relapse, i started a new relashionship recently, and I'm afraid to ruin it. I told her about the relapse, but not the last one.
Do you think i will feel withdrawals again? I'm afraid to be with her ​​with withrawals, i said to her that I'm not taking neither subutex or heroin .. but she thinks I'm 10 days sober
 
I would definitly say yes. My recent relapse lasted 10 days (14 month no opiates prior) and i was feeling uncomfortable. It was not that bad, exccesive sweating, sensitivity to cold, low energy and some minor pain in my legs. I think with 3-4 days you can get away without problems but one month? I would do a quick buprenorphine taper if you feel strong enough to adhere to you dosing schedule.
 
If you were previously dependent on opiates, there's a very good chance you'll experience withdrawals if you've been consistently using opiates for a month...
 
Thanks for the answers. I know that after one month i will withdrawal, my question is after 7 days sober (but taking subutex for the detox) if one slip will lead me to withdrawal again. I will not lie, in the meanwhile i've taken a xanax and i'm less anxious, but i know that's not the answer to my prob, and i will get help again, even tough i think i'm killing this relapse in good time, no time is good for a relapse and i will not understimate it. Will after 7 days clean, a relapse of a day will take me back to withdrawal, knowking that i was one month taking heroin before those 7 days?
 
^Switching to subutex for 7 days is still using opiates, and with a buprenorphine taper, most people experience very few symptoms until the end...

Of course, a week-long bupe taper is better than stopping cold-turkey...So, you probably won't experience full-blown heroin withdrawal, but to think that you wouldn't go through any substantial withdrawal symptoms is unrealistic.
 
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yes.. i'm prepared for that. if i see that it's too much for me to handle. i will take subutex.. but i wouldn't like to... i don't want to be on subutex effect with my girlfriend.. but i already told her minutes ago that i will take subutex for a few more days because of the cravings... i know that this is the less important thing, and that the most important is to get clean and get help... But i think we all know here that we find all sorts of escuses, but i'm afraid of loosing this relashionship, i like her a lot and it's killing me to lie to her yesterday and today... it's one of the things i hated more in my past, the lying to the ones we love, and these schems to clean ourselfs alone... i'm very sad with myself, after my long work in therapy and all that i've conquered, i'm again at this point. She's a very sweet woman and a great friend, and i'm blowing it.. this self destruction mechanism, never really went away, it's what it seems.. i've done it again minutes ago, when i went to buy subutex, the question now is with a two day relapse.. sorry guys, to change my question... i'm trying not to beat myself up, but it's hard not to.
 
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I have went thru opiate w/ds many times, but it always seems tougher each time I go thru it, I think once someone knows what opiates do and the feeling they produce, especially heroin, it is VERY hard to remain clean for the remainder of your life or most of it. People that have never tired H dont know that GREAT feeling, and cant begin to guess about it, Ive tried explaining it to a few people but they just dont get it, nor do they understand w/ds.

being clean, you are still going to have those crappy bad days here and there, going to get headaches, body aches, but addicts know there is something easily obtained that will take all that away quickly and its just a phone call away...this is the toughest part for me, seems like the clock stops and im pacing around, so anxious, trying to resist going and getting some, I always end up caving though. Xanax can help with the anxiety, but it doesnt get rid of it all, plus, then you are just going to start using that more and more, another monkey on your back.

Ive been told mind over matter many times, and to a degree, I think this is true but it is extremely difficult to try and 'trick' your mind into believing you are feeling good and do not need the drug, Ive tried this a few times, but it never works for me, the w/ds get the best of me.

Sometimes I wish I could move to a very rural area and just grow a entire field of poppies and sit back and enjoy life, get high on my own supply and it would be 100% pure! I hate spending SOOOO much money on this crap every fucking month, If i were not addicted, I could afford a damn nice new car, but fuck no, that will never happen when Im buying dope left and right.

Good luck... I hope you can make it thru and remain clean.
 
Thank you for your words.
I was 5 years consuming, and then had 8 years "clean", but abusing alcohol and sometimes speed and cocain, then i relapse for about one year and a half. After i was 5 years clean of it all, and i must say that i felt great the most of this time and made many good changes in my life, and felt good... But the last year i was negligent with my recovery, because i had some changes in my life (lost my job, my best friend died, endend a 11 years relashionship, regain the weight that i've lost), and i didn't cope well, but i thought that i wouldn't comit this error again.. We can never be negligent with recovery, it's a desease for life... I believe i will make it thru, but i was a call for me. I must lift my head and fight every day to be well and to be happy and in recovery.
We must try every day to enjoy life without drugs, it's not easy but we have the power to do it, and when we achieve this, never take it for granted, because heroin is always calling us.. even when we are not earing..
 
i went and got more subutex.. i will try to use them again for 7 seven days again, i don't believe that i will have full withdrawal and for 7 days, but i think it's best.. and then get therapy, again...
Maybe i will try tomorrow not to take them, to see if it's a weak wd that i can handle, it helps knowing that i have subs, só maybe i will not get anxious like today because i didn't had nothing to help with the wd.
Thanks for the help you all. And believe that life can be great without drugs... after 15 years of abusing drugs and alchool (more than 6 of them dependent of heroin), i had maybe the best time of my life in my 5 years sober, unfortunaly i made this mistake.. i will fix it :) i believe
 
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