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Do you think human intuition is real?

Firstly, I just wanted to state to the OP that this an absolutely lovely thread idea. Secondly, this exact 'question' is something that I honestly have formed quite a bit of an obsession with after inexplicable life occurrences. I was honestly always the type of gal who questioned literally everything—still am a skeptic overall. The one thing that has changed tremendously has been my theory on human intuition. I always had this absolutely bizarre notion as a very, very young child that a particularly odd event would eventually one day make an appearance in my life. I don't feel the need to disclose this event, but I assure you, 'odd' is the understatement of the century. Anyway, to make a long story short, I remember getting this absolutely inconceivable gut instinct that I was going to come face to face with this situation. It made me feel so peculiar that I absolutely could not even fathom discussing how I felt. I knew that there was no possible way to put into non-judgement ready words how distinct this feeling was. Lo and behold, at age 20, I was face to face with not only one, but two incomprehensibly absurd distinct gut feelings I had since I was approximately five years old. I will assure you, these are EXTREMELY fucking bizarre gut feelings to have as a child.

Thirdly, the moment this feeling 'hit' was so otherworldly I cannot even begin to attempt to describe this feeling. It was as though everything I had felt (and surpressed) as a child was actually a spot-on prediction for what would eventually become the most pivotal point in my entire life. Every single inch of my core being completely froze. I could not speak. There are absolutely no words for what I felt that moment the realization hit me, but it changed my life for the better in every way, shape, and form. I had always asked for some sort of spiritual or religious awakening, and there is no doubt in my mind that intuitive notion I had been waiting and needing my entire life was it.
 
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alasdairm said:
you're adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 here.

you assume his intent was malevolent and that what you foresaw would have happened. there's no way of knowing and it's just as likely that he simply opened the wrong door accidentally thinking it was the men's room...

alasdair
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it was a weird feeling ... my mind was racing and i was nervous i had a feeling someone was going to come in the bathroom someone with bad intention .and a guy ?. these thought just flowed into my head i didnt wanna think about it... when i was in the bathroom i questioned myself WHY AM I THINKING LIKE THIS, i swear the thoughts where so vivd and bad that they scared me and i just wanted to run outta the bath room ..

i swear im not the superstitions type at all and i dont believe in psychics or predictions . but this was just a sense an intuition for sure

they say when bad things happen to ppl such as car accidents and assaults the person sometimes mention that they had a "feeling" that something bad was going to happen .. most ppl ignore this and go about

but i swear i have never felt like that ever!! , im not even the intuitive type
 
^he's a nihilist, I wouldn't try too hard to prove anything to him. If you really believe all people are equal, and a ugly guy with tattoos on his face hasn't at least had a bad intention that he acted upon in his life, then good for you, but don't go around telling people it's just 2+2=5. Alas, I fear you're gonna end up getting stabbed by a latino with a teardrop tattoo and a giant knife in a holster because you needs to be "fair minded" and PC and go through the useless thought patterns: "there's no reason to be afraid, he's most likely just a chef who needs to carry around cutlery because you never know when you're gonna have to chop up onions for an omelet, and the teardrop is just a reminder of all the onions he's sliced up."
Too much materialism can drive a person bonkers. I don't care what they'll tell you.
Ebola pointed out why it isn't supernatural, and I agree: nothing's supernatural.
 
Well...it also seems that a lot of human cognition roots itself in heuristics (even when explicit), thus marred by key logical flaws, but sufficiently functional to work 'well enough' most of the time.

I think that you're pulling the wrong message from Ali there: the idea is that you're over-inferring, not an idiot or insane. And he's a nihilist? lol

ebola
 
i've no doubts that intuition is very real.
the most intense example of intuition that i've experienced happened more than 20 years ago tonight.
i had a very disturbing dream and knew w/out a doubt my husband was going to die that day if he went to work. i begged him not to go but he laughed about my kooky dreams and went on to
work.

at 8:30 a.m while he was getting a drink of water, a concrete beam fell about 50 feet from a crane, hit him in the head, and killed him instantly.
i have never been free of the guilt that i could have stopped it if i'd been able to fully explain to him the urgency and intensity of the dream.
one hell of a way to learn the validity of intuition.
-izzy
 
I don't really understand the definition of "human intuition".

Can humans sometimes accurately predict the future? Yes, clearly. It's a necessary tool of our survival to be able to find patterns, and discover the way things work, so that we can plan into the future.

Can humans always predict the future? No, clearly.

These were both common sense, however. And for this idea of "human intuition" to warrant a thread topic, it must be more controversial. Can you elaborate a bit?



CoffeeDrinker said:
Well, nothing's supernatural.
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LOL that just about perfectly sums up this thread. =D
 
TheAppleCore said:
These were both common sense, however. And for this idea of "human intuition" to warrant a thread topic, it must be more controversial. Can you elaborate a bit?
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Uh yeah read the first post or google it

Oh and humans predicting future events based on patterns or cycles w.e usually has to do with math, physics and observations/records...nothing with intuition. We know when and where the next solar eclipse will take place..but is that intuition? No, it's due to math and physics that we are able to tell

CoffeeDrinker said:
^he's a nihilist, I wouldn't try too hard to prove anything to him. If you really believe all people are equal, and a ugly guy with tattoos on his face hasn't at least had a bad intention that he acted upon in his life, then good for you, but don't go around telling people it's just 2+2=5. Alas, I fear you're gonna end up getting stabbed by a latino with a teardrop tattoo and a giant knife in a holster because you needs to be "fair minded" and PC and go through the useless thought patterns: "there's no reason to be afraid, he's most likely just a chef who needs to carry around cutlery because you never know when you're gonna have to chop up onions for an omelet, and the teardrop is just a reminder of all the onions he's sliced up."
Too much materialism can drive a person bonkers. I don't care what they'll tell you.
Ebola pointed out why it isn't supernatural, and I agree: nothing's supernatural.
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QFT

I don't care who tries to tell me otherwise, every time my gut has acted up I've listened, and I've had a 100% success rate.
 
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Uh yeah read the first post or google it
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Ummm...this isn't how I use the word; I was initially confused too. In the thread, you mean, predictions of future events per 'gut feelings', right?

I don't care who tries to tell me otherwise, every time my gut has acted up I've listened, and I've had a 100% success rate.
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Memory is fallible, startlingly incomplete, reconstructed. We also tend to be subject to confirmation bias, forgetting what doesn't fit expectations. Are you sure about your stated success-rate? Are you sure that you don't bend criteria for 'success' upon receipt of results?

Also, scientific hypothesis-generation rests on intuition too. :P

ebola
 
^^true, although most hypothesis' are educated guesses, made by people who have dealt with similar situations before so they have a better idea of what the outcome could be

I think if you took a person off the street and an astronomer and asked them to make a hypothesis based on something that happens in the universe ...chances are the astronomer would be closer (that's only my assumption)

When it comes to my memory changing around actual events, I can safely say I was right every time. The only reason I know is because each time was such a monumental feeling I remember every time it happened (even if it was about something minuscule)

And about the definition how do you use the word? Most people I've come in contact with refer to intuition as the philosophical term of having a connection with the universe/another person/events etc...so that's how I meant it without giving it much thought...my apologies to you and the apple core and anyone else whos confused about the meaning

But yes ebola I was referring to predicting the future (although I hate using that term) from a gut feeling and sometimes also thoughts

Again just to clarify..the gut feelings or ideas I sometimes get isn't like my body's telling me exactly whats going to happen, it's more like we roll up to a spot to buy some weed and I get an overwhelming feeling that something bad is about to happen, and then something like the cops will roll up or we'll get robbed or something. Its not paranoia and I know its not a coincidence b.c it's such a strong sense of.....something, and whenever I get that feeling the sult I was expecting isn't too far behind...every time without fail

Edit: alasdairm I thought about it and I'd say it's happened more along the lines of 35-50 times throughout my life rather than 20
 
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how old are you?

even if you're only 20, 35 to 50 times in your life is still only once every 5 to 7 months or so. you think it's amazing and real. i think it's just as likely to be a coincidence...

alasdair
 
izzy66 said:
i've no doubts that intuition is very real.
the most intense example of intuition that i've experienced happened more than 20 years ago tonight.
i had a very disturbing dream and knew w/out a doubt my husband was going to die that day if he went to work. i begged him not to go but he laughed about my kooky dreams and went on to
work.

at 8:30 a.m while he was getting a drink of water, a concrete beam fell about 50 feet from a crane, hit him in the head, and killed him instantly.
i have never been free of the guilt that i could have stopped it if i'd been able to fully explain to him the urgency and intensity of the dream.
one hell of a way to learn the validity of intuition.
-izzy
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^ Case in point.
izzy, that's obviously a brutal way to go about fully trusting one's instinct. There are no words for occurrences like that. All I can say is that the next time you get the same type of possibly threatening intuitive notion—go with it.
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ya people tuned into thier intuition its like they use the force from star wars well thats how it feels for me
 
L2R said:
ebola is right, "intuition" is the wrong word.
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I don't think so...what's the right word then?

World English Dictionary

intuition

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1. knowledge or belief obtained neither by reason nor by perception

2. instinctive knowledge or belief

3. a hunch or unjustified belief

4. philosophy immediate knowledge of a proposition or object such as Kant's Account of our knowledge of sensible objects

5. the supposed faculty or process by which we obtain any of these
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nothing from that definition connotes predictions of future events.

regarding things that seem to occur momentarily after the thought of them, then it is synchronicity.

if you are predicting things further on, foresight or clairvoyance may apply.
 
^ Number 2 could be considered for the position.

Can intuition not also imply knowledge occurring at the same time as a geographically distant event takes place ?

Who mentioned future events anyway? OK it was the OP but they go on to describe an analogous event which corresponds with the above sentence
 
not essentially. i can see how one can connect those dots, but its an extraneous step.

intuition may be used to pick up on some subconscious information, such as mannerisms of strangers, or suspicious behaviour of groups of people. this doesn't mean the same thing as this thread.

instinct connotes animalistic natures, like a sense of danger, one's biological clock, etc.
 
I was thinking about situations where there are no obvious subconscious observations to be made when ones 5 senses are out of range of the thing/event intuited.
Instinct is a fascinating subject in itself & is possibly connected to the intuition of the "supernatural type" for want of a better description.
The trouble with intuited knowledge is that no one will ever believe you - they will find logical explanations failing to satisfy themselves with that they'll conclude you were mistaken have gone a bit mad or something. Basically if it's not empirically provable they'll claim it doesn't exist. Such an attitude is ridiculous as history is littered with truths which have been debunked by science. Science isn't a religion, just because it is not written by Hawking/Dawkins does not make it necessarily rubbish.
 
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