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Do You Think Ecstasy Should Be Legalised?

Do you think ecstasy should be legalised?

  • Yes. I believe Ecstasy should be legalised for all purposes.

    Votes: 64 44.1%

  • I think that ecstasy should be legalised for prescription or theraputic use

    Votes: 59 40.7%

  • No, I don't believe ecstasy should be legalised at all.

    Votes: 22 15.2%
  • Total voters
    145
  • Poll closed .
I belive that it should be legalised for receational use ONLY.
I think it should have the same laws for alcohol eg legal age, DUI etc.
This way real MDMA will be easier to access and less kids would abuse it.
 
So what do you think EDers?
Anyone and everyone that i know who does E has always been a chill, cool kind of person. Not the annoying type or anything, and i usually end up liking them.

What are the problems that might arise from Ecstasy being legalised?
Well, it's fucking bad for you, like, really, really, really bad. Fucks you up in multiple ways both psychologically and physically, so this is probably the main issue. It also causes the users to act differently, and sometimes people may feel/act very intoxicated on E. Definitely not safe to drive unless you are fully alert. (sometimes E can increase alertness though, usually on come up.)

What are the problems if its not legalised?
Well for instance i know a real awesome, A+ basketball student who is a year younger than me (gr 11) and this guy barely smokes weed, doesn't really drink, and doesn't do anything else that's 'hard' other than E. and he is a really good guy. Never rude, and really smart - one of those guys that everybody likes, and nobody dislikes just because he's such a chill guy. Well, he does E and that can get him in some serious trouble with the law if he ever got caught and i'd hate to see such a great/smart guy get thrown in prison just because he likes to roll every once in a while.

What problems are there if its only legalised for therapuetic reasons?
Well obviously there will be abuse of the drug, but that's the same with any other strong opiate based pain killer.
 
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Either way it goes the drug WILL be abused. Legal or not...i WILL be abused. being legal will only save lives! More info on OD's and better purity.

If it was legal for recreational use there would be abuse. The government should put a time limit on doses.....like a month till next dose.

If it was legal for therapuetic reasons the only problem i see would be me going to get a script.....lol.



The only problem i see with ALL drugs being legalized is a small increase in use. There are COUNTLESS good reasons why to legalize all drugs. http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php




The 9 people that said NO to this should go read that site. LEAP (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition!)
 
No, legalizing a drug that is already being abused by millions of people won't help the situation
 
Roose said:
No, legalizing a drug that is already being abused by millions of people won't help the situation
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so not legalizing it, with millions of people taking unknown substances, risking thier lives, and making drug cartels/criminals rich is good?

Prohibition is a fucking joke on its own...

The drug war is another joke and a huge reason why US is in debt.


Sigh......


Legalizing it would put more restrictions on it. Age limits, dosage limits, more information on ODing, purity would be better. Legalization is the way to go imo.
 
Alcohol is worse than MDMA. Alcohol is physically addictive and many people overdose from its use. It also leads to violence, rape, and car accidents. MDMA is not addictive as if you overuse it, the drug loses its magic. People such as DXMkid420 claiming they and many others would abuse MDMA if it were legalized based on the ecstasy pills they abuse need to have their pills checked. I can almost guarantee you they are composed of mainly meth, a highly addictive drug and little or no MDMA, a highly non-addicitive drug. Prohibition allows organized crime to profit from the drug and allows unregulated pills with concoctions of dangerous combinations to be sold as "ecstasy". Ecstasy is no longer MDMA. I believe MDMA should be legalized, not random pills sold as ecstasy with random assortments of psychoactives, which is what ecstasy has come to be. I always have a constant stash of MDMA and I rarely use more than once a month. Its sitting right next to me, and I haven't done any for the last 3 weeks. Probably wont do any for another few weeks. Why? Because if I did it more often I would lose the magic of MDMA, so I can either do it sparingly and retain the magic, or overdo and never get the magic back again. Either way, if people abuse MDMA, they can do so for only so long before the drug has little effect on them and they stop taking it. It would be best for society for MDMA to be legalized, and if any one has doubts on this than I can phrase it differently. Alcohol is much worse to society than MDMA. Maybe the question isn't whether MDMA should be legalized or if alcohol should be made illegal. If you believe MDMA should not be legal than by all scientific based evidence you should believe that alcohol should not be legal either.

As Woodrowbt wrote, "Legalizing it would put more restrictions on it. Age limits, dosage limits, more information on ODing, purity would be better." Kids interested in MDMA would also not have to go through a drug dealer who may expose them to much more harmful drugs such as cocaine and heroin. Regulated legalization is most definitely best for society. People will always do "ecstasy", but if you want society to have access to clean unadulterated MDMA ecstasy it must be regulated.

Any refutations?
 
Not just ecstasy but all drugs should be legalized. Cognitive liberty should be a core american value. Nuff said.
 
I vote to legalize it for the entire general public. Besides the cases of abuse, I've found that ecstasy and alcohol are pretty close in terms of the timeframe of the experience. That is, it's usually taken at night, the whole experience is over the span of a few hours or more, and you wake up with a bad hangover the next day that is easily counteracted by chasers (5-htp and such). Sound familiar? The current laws governing alcohol could be applied to legal ex use pretty seamlessly, and I think it would come to fill much the same niche culturally, only probably attracting very different markets.
 
Given the way so many lifelong drinkers who who would never dream of touching "drugs" have started to switch to meph instead of booze for a night out (meph is legal here so they don't see it as a drug :\) I suspect if they had access to legal MDMA many would make the switch too. I also get zero hangover from MDMA used alone - I get an afterglow and feel great usually. Unlike booze when I always feel like crap and regret most of the previous night :|
 
I truly and wholeheartedly believe in the legalization and decriminalization of all substances, regardless of neurotoxicity or other potentially damaging affects.

Prohibition just doesn't work and it's not conducive to harm reduction. The only thing that prohibition ensures is that more people get hurt due to unknown purities of all currently illicit substances. If drugs were legalized they could be regulated and there would never be a question of purity or dosage. There would no longer be an issue of over crowding in prison as drug users (who have not committed other crimes) would no longer be in prison.

It is not (and should never be) the role of the government to tell me what I can or cannot put into my own body as an adult. If I am responsible enough to support myself, pay rent/mortgage, other bills, then I should be responsible enough to know what is acceptable to put in my own body and what is not. If my intoxication infringes on the rights of others (ie: driving while under the influence...etc) then I deserve to be put in prison.

I just can't see how anyone would not want drugs legalized and regulated. That mentality just doesn't make sense to me. All legalization would do would be to provide a safe (as in uncut and of a known dosage) way for people to use drugs recreationally. Anyone who currently isn't using is not going to run out tomorrow and use all the drugs that they can just because it's legal now. And people who already use are going to continue to use, why not at least make it safer for them to do so?

It scares me that there are people who are accepting of the government infringing on their personal liberties and freedoms. Wake up people!!!
 
There's also the fact that countries who have relaxed prohibitive laws on drugs (or even decriminalised them like Portugal, for example) have seen a decrease in drug use, related health problems and obviously crime. It's just an all-round win situation. Such a shame that more governments won't even consider it currently cos it clearly works and is in the best interests of everybody whether they use (or even approve of the use) of drugs or not.
 
Shambles said:
There's also the fact that countries who have relaxed prohibitive laws on drugs (or even decriminalised them like Portugal, for example) have seen a decrease in drug use, related health problems and obviously crime. It's just an all-round win situation. Such a shame that more governments won't even consider it currently cos it clearly works and is in the best interests of everybody whether they use (or even approve of the use) of drugs or not.
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I can believe this for sure. I know that drinking alcohol when I was a teenager was so much more appealing to me than when I actually turned 21 and could legally drink in the United States. As soon as it was legal for me I basically stopped drinking (I guess having some sort of allergy to alcohol as well also played a role, but that's not necessarily here nor there as I didn't have any specific issues when I turned 21. ;))
 
Totally agree, PFF. The intrigue, mystique and rebelliousness of taking something illicitly is inherently more appealing than if you could just buy your MDMA from a pharmacy or whatever and nobody thought twice about it. I would bet a ball that most folks would use less drugs and much of that appeal of doing Bad Things cos you know they're actually not bad at all would vanish pretty quick. There would be huge problems with abuse in the short-term, I would suspect, but that would soon change and drugs would be just another aspect of life (as they already are) only so much safer and a new equilibrium would soon be reached.
 
I absolutely agree.

There would definitely be a short surge period, but the novelty would quickly wear away. I also agree with you that we would actually see a drop in the number of people using as the novelty of meeting the dealer and engaging that ritual would be blown away.

It's unbelievable that the government won't even acknowledge this to be a potential outcome of legalization. I guess it's just "doom and gloom" that sells these day, happy endings are apparently a thing of the past. :(
 
I think it should be legalized for therapeutic purposes b/c then we will have safe/clean pills that are not adulterated. However, this is not without issues. Yes, while there may be more addiction, there will be less crime and cleaner pills, I believe. I think addiction needs to be solved from a greater social problem. People are already addcited to xanax and other benzos, oxycontin, soma, pain pills, etc...Why don't they just make those illegal. If there is a purpose, then why not make it available, instead of on black market? jmo

What are the problems that might arise from Ecstasy being legalised?
More and more people will become addicted.

What are the problems if its not legalised?
Higher mortality rate as people will be taking bunk or rather adulterated pills with harmful substances.

What problems are there if its only legalised for therapuetic reasons?
It still could be abused if only used for therapeutic purposes. Therapists, like doctors sometimes have habits of "overprescribing". What if a therapist gets addicted and is using with a client? ALso, E is a very interesting drug and I could see transference issues, crossing boundaries b/w therapist/client relationship-slippery slope here.

I am an MSW student and while I really think E has been shown preliminary efficacy in the use of therapy with PTSD patients (from MAPS org doing the research), it still can be a slippery slope. Therapists can abuse the drugs as well and take advantage of access. But, this shouldn't be a reason for it not to be legal for such purposes.
 
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