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Hi everyone!

We've seen some people here that really believe in not taking their 100-200mg dosage (always according of what the user can handle) of MDMA in one go, but instead choose to take a small amount such as 100mg, then re-dose at some point between the 30-60 minute mark with a booster of 50-100mg for reasons personal, scientific or unknown.

Searched through the forums I can't really find one place where this discussion has gone into great detail/discussions for a fair decent amount of time to discuss personal preferences. (But if we do have this and I just haven't known about it the whole time, that sucks lol) The other day this was talked about and the variety of dosage times was really interesting!

Here's what I mean, two methods people seem to use at a guess either 95% of the time:


Option A:

T0:00 - Consume 100-200mg of MDMA
T1:00 - Rave.
T8:00 - Sleeping/hating the world.

Option B:

T0:00 - Consume 100mg of MDMA
T0:30/1:00 - Consume 50mg-100mg of MDMA
T8:00 - Sleeping/hating the world.


Personally if I want the night to be less floored and much more memorable with an easier gradient, I do enjoy option B, but re-dose at 0:45 I tried last time and this was pretty great. Timing was impeccable, everything flowed much more easily and I found the hours after to be much more tolerable (will accept accusations of placebo, it worked though, and all the dark thoughts are in our heads anyway. 8)


Do you re-dose? And why?
 
If I redose it's always 60mg at the 1.5 hour point follwing a 125mg dose. I do this, of course, to prolong the peak(only when i'm raving). If i'm not rolling at a rave I don't redose.
 
Yes I usually redose between 50-100 mg to prolong the night if needed. This is with no specific evidence but I always hope for it to intensify and extend the experience.
 
Yeah I usually take one or two redoses at roughly 40-50mg each. I find that they certainly extend and even slightly intensify the experience sometimes. Mainly it's for bonus duration though.

I do it quite simply because the comedown is exactly the same and yet the experience is longer and more enjoyable. Win win situation.
 
OP, I don't think that you are necessarily redosing. When I hear discussion about redosing, a majority of the time the user takes their 'redose' like 3 to 4 hours into the event. I don't do this because of the increase of neurotoxicity.
 
I always re-dose with roughly half the initial dose (as a rule of thumb). I only get wired on MDMA every 2-3 months to try keep the experience from being dulled at all. I usually go for under 200 mg aiming at 120-130 mg for initial dose and 60-70mg once i'm into my come up! It can make it more intense but usually works by extending it for myself.
 
T0:00 - 175mg
T1:00 - 100mg
T7:00 - sleep feeling fine

I don't always redose, just when I'm at a longer event usually. I don't want to come down so fast and be drained while the show goes on.
 
My first rave roll I popped a molly at 8pm so that I can roll for Avicii back in 2011. Felt a slightish tingle throughout my body, maybe anxiety, re-dosed the same amount at about the 40 minute mark, 9pm I was sweatin. Best roll of my life. Best time of my life.

I redosed because I thought to myself fuck it, it's now or never. If one didn't hit me good, two had better. And it did.

What I think of that night: "Popped two mollies and I'm sweatin! WOO!"
 
Who is starting off with 100mg and redosing 50mg..? I don't see that very often at all.... Usually more like 120-150 and a 50-75 mg redose.



I find this to be MUCH more comfortable than dropping a huge 200-250mg drop like some other people will do, but it still gets me to nearly the same level. I do redose most times, but I also have found that the amount dosed is DIRECTLY tied to how bad the comedown is.
 
I always redosed. I would drop when I got to the party at 8 or 9, redose once or twice at the party, go to the after party at 2AM, redose a few more times there, go to a house party at 6AM, and then the ketamine, alcohol, and everything else came out and was mixed with more irresponsible redosing.

Myself and my circle of friends were all very much the "go hard or go home" types.

That said, part of the explanation for why this type of behavior was so common in the Denver scene is probably the fact that most of our pills from 2004 through 2006 were MDA-based, not MDMA, and 1 out of 5 times were meth bombs on top of it. MDA and methamphetamine are both kind of compulsive, especially when you take into account that MDA redoses continue to work while MDMA redoses are pretty much useless after the peak unless you really start pushing the dose. Couple this with the fact that we would party for a full 24 hours before leaving whoever's house we went to for the after party and heading home...

Don't ask me what the crashes were like. I don't remember most of them because of how fried I always was. By the time I got into bed, my room was always full of shadow people and I had brain zaps.

If I were to roll today, I would drop 150mg to start and a 75mg redose and make sure I had access to nothing else.
 
@Badrobot: I can't say I've heard that method! That would be a really nice and gentle come up for you?

@TheMedic: More MDMA will definitely make anything more intense haha!

@JWills: Does 2 redoses work just as well? Recommend? Might try it around situations where I need to keep my cool a bit better.. let me know what the timeframe usually is :)

@Freehugs: 3 to 4 hours?! This is why I made this, see how many different responses we have already with people redosing? My guess of 95% is now suddenly looking very very very much lower!

@X2thec: I haven't taken a few month break in a fair long time. I may skip this month just to remind myself of the difference again. :)

@AnonymousAbuser: do you take that more because of your body? (Age/weight/height/tolerance to anything/etc.)

@Curious Christoph: Avicii, oh wow. All I can say is oh wow. Jealous as that would have been nuts!

@Folley: I thought I'd put it up there just to show the general difference between A and B more clearer, people might just see 180mg + 2 boosters of 100mg and think "OOH THAT LOOKS YUM" 2 days later there will be a "Took .5g of molly on weekend.... was it molly?" hahaha just thought it really illustrates the difference better idk :P

@MagickalKat: Jesus that sounds intense. Don't see too many meth bombs here, but MDA & Meth would just be furious, that is the only word I can think of to describe the feeling I am imagining... does that sound weird?


Already some way different reponses than I imagined last night, this is sick. :D
 
I don't redose bc by the time I think about it the nights usually winding down and I don't like to be up all night and morning. Say I dose around 10-11pm I start coming down around 3am. Time for bed awesome night had. Usually shoot for 150mg intial dose.
 
@afterlyfestyle - Furious would definitely be one way to describe it. I've never smoked meth or done it outside of pills so I can't draw comparisons but MDA on its own is significantly more stimulating than MDMA (which I actually found to be somewhat on the sedating side at the higher doses)... I mean comparing things, mephedrone was just slightly more stimulating than MDA which was more stimulating than methylone which I found to be more stimulating than ephedrine which was more stimulating than caffeine which was only slightly more stimulating than MDMA which was more stimulating than MDE.

Maybe I just wasn't prone to MDMA stimulation for whatever reason.

Either way when you take into account that MDA alone is quite speedy, it had a real kick when there was meth mixed with it. I had a number of panic attacks while rolling as a result of MDA/meth/caffeine combo pills as a matter of fact.
 
Good idea Mazza :) I suppose also not staying up all night and going to bed just a few hours later than usual, the day after is much more tolerable for you?


MagickalKat777 said:
@afterlyfestyle - Furious would definitely be one way to describe it. I've never smoked meth or done it outside of pills so I can't draw comparisons but MDA on its own is significantly more stimulating than MDMA (which I actually found to be somewhat on the sedating side at the higher doses)... I mean comparing things, mephedrone was just slightly more stimulating than MDA which was more stimulating than methylone which I found to be more stimulating than ephedrine which was more stimulating than caffeine which was only slightly more stimulating than MDMA which was more stimulating than MDE.
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Am I getting you a bit stimulated there Mkat ;)

The pants stay on chief I'm watching you!


The only reaction coming to mind is that DC(?) guy The Flash on meth, geez MDA & meth a very large heart rate is coming to mind... sucks to hear about the attacks, if it was just MDA the world would be a much better place. :(
 
ROFLMAO!!!

And yeah, I honestly never understood why the MDA pills always had meth added to them... it would seem more logical to add it to MDMA than MDA. :\

I only ever had one pill that I know for sure was MDA only - a sunflower. The rest of my MDA was either MDA/MDMA/MDE combo (which is the best combo, no complaints) or MDA and any combination of caffeine, (pseudo)ephedrine, dimenhydrinate, diphenhydramine, amphetamine, and methamphetamine. I had to specifically seek out pure MDA "molly" in order to be guaranteed MDA although I'm fairly sure one of the batches of "MDMA" I got was MDA as well, I didn't test that one.

Luckily I never got piperazine pills but I also stopped rolling before those became prevalent.

Never got a DXM roll either thankfully.
 
@Folley: I thought I'd put it up there just to show the general difference between A and B more clearer, people might just see 180mg + 2 boosters of 100mg and think "OOH THAT LOOKS YUM" 2 days later there will be a "Took .5g of molly on weekend.... was it molly?" hahaha just thought it really illustrates the difference better idk :P
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VERY good point, I guess I took it literally that you see those two methods all the time




MDA more stimulating than methylone though? How..? All the times I've taken tested MDA I get extremely mongy.
 
afterlyfestyle said:
Good idea Mazza :) I suppose also not staying up all night and going to bed just a few hours later than usual, the day after is much more tolerable
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Very much so. Ima grown ass raver now. Hahaha get my sleep, take my vitamins, exercise; rarely do I get a comedown. But I also only roll 2-3 times a year. I think one of the biggest thing I learned, besides reagent testing, is dosing correctly. Find your sweet spot. Enjoy it for all you can. And just be satisfied with the experience instead of trying to make it last forever. Which for me, a redose adds minimum 3-4 hours extra before being able to sleep. I get all the nasty stimulant side effects especially if I try after the 2 hour mark of intial dose. Transversely, if I dose too high. I get super floored. 180+ on intial dose and I'll be wanting to cuddle up laying down. Weird how timing and dose effects me so drastically different.
 
afterlyfestyle said:
@Badrobot: I can't say I've heard that method! That would be a really nice and gentle come up for you?

@TheMedic: More MDMA will definitely make anything more intense haha!

@JWills: Does 2 redoses work just as well? Recommend? Might try it around situations where I need to keep my cool a bit better.. let me know what the timeframe usually is :)

@Freehugs: 3 to 4 hours?! This is why I made this, see how many different responses we have already with people redosing? My guess of 95% is now suddenly looking very very very much lower!

@X2thec: I haven't taken a few month break in a fair long time. I may skip this month just to remind myself of the difference again. :)

@AnonymousAbuser: do you take that more because of your body? (Age/weight/height/tolerance to anything/etc.)

@Curious Christoph: Avicii, oh wow. All I can say is oh wow. Jealous as that would have been nuts!

@Folley: I thought I'd put it up there just to show the general difference between A and B more clearer, people might just see 180mg + 2 boosters of 100mg and think "OOH THAT LOOKS YUM" 2 days later there will be a "Took .5g of molly on weekend.... was it molly?" hahaha just thought it really illustrates the difference better idk :P

@MagickalKat: Jesus that sounds intense. Don't see too many meth bombs here, but MDA & Meth would just be furious, that is the only word I can think of to describe the feeling I am imagining... does that sound weird?


Already some way different reponses than I imagined last night, this is sick. :D
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2 re-doses works well for me. Usually drop the first about 1-2 hours in (but it really depends what I wanna do), then the next whenever. When I'm rolling I'm out to have fun, not worry about if my dose timing is perfect and/or too late. That sort of thinking completely takes away from the buzz. It's all about just letting go and enjoying yourself in that moment, not worrying about how neurotoxic this extra dose you plan to take is going to be...
 
Mazzab said:
I think one of the biggest thing I learned, besides reagent testing, is dosing correctly. Find your sweet spot. Enjoy it for all you can. And just be satisfied with the experience instead of trying to make it last forever.
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Good words Mazza bloody oath!

JWills20 said:
It's all about just letting go and enjoying yourself in that moment,
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Such truth.

I can't help but look at the time if I am out at a club though: its just subliminal because every second person around me is asking:

"OMG IS THIS DJ GONNA BE ON NEXT?!"
"NAHHHH MAAAAAN, HE'S ON IN 25 MINUTES"

And then look at my phone/DJ time list (either way, you know who's on the set list because you've been waiting for a good week to go and hear these DJs specifically, Melbourne is good for this, lots of levels/rooms if you don't like one DJ you go and hear whoever else, big competition to have the good beats) and BAM, there is the exact time and moment just got timestamped, usually at this point if I said euphoria doesn't fade and shit gets real then I would be flat out lying, DJs here are on hourly rotation, if anyone can head out and not find a way to check the time one way or another, definitely go for it, but I can't go out and have a ciggy or stand with mates without hearing that. :(

Side question:

"WHATS THE TIME?!"
"ITS 6:45"

Does anyone get that feeling of just destroying and obliterating the one who does that? Announces daylight and shit?
 
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