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Psychology Do you have an “internal monologue” that never ends?

Flatjump3 said:
I have OCD and psychotic depression, so my dialogue NEVER stops and is usually extremely negative and dark.
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Same here, at least the never ending mono/dialogue (it usually is a monologue as I've experienced when I got some hints of psychosis, then it actually is a dia- or multilogue). I wake up from/with it and I fall asleep with it, usually it keeps me awake and nervous. I'd fucking love to find the pause key, some drugs like dissociatives or tranquilizers can do that, antipsychotics chronically fail for me altogether and some even add to it.

Unfortunately too, yeah, it tends to be negative. It directly influences emotions, it's not that hard to change the moment but requires an impossible amount of energy to keep a modification going. Can be neutral or positive but usually it's dark. That's why I like to think about factual topics, they are less emotionally overloaded.

Interesting for sure to learn that not everybody is the same or even similar here. Theorized about that question longer ago but people tend to find such questions just weird, besides online I guess.
 
This is an interesting topic. The actual numbers will vary greatly, but the average person has anywhere between 12,000 to 80,000 thoughts per day. Up to 80% of those are negative thoughts, which is why reprogramming your brain to think positive can make a huge difference in how one perceives the world.
 
My thoughts tend to be more visual versus actual internal dialogue, my thoughts are more of a stream of images, especially numbers and letters/words, and it works well for me to assess a lot of complex information and weigh variables from many different possible outcomes. I can also create an actual internal dialogue if I try, but that takes more energy and tends to be more inefficient for me.
 
My internal voice is like a backseat driver giving me instructions all the time. Mostly it uses all the techniques and ideas from years of therapy and rehab. Mostly it keeps me calm and out of trouble and I don’t mind because it likes giving helpful advice but its not judgemental at all. But it really is like a voice in my head. I think it began when I started doing CBT.
 
Yeah i have a internal monolouge always constant words stories sentences about everything and anything it never fucking ends. I always thought everybody was like this? so some people acutally don't have a inner voice or think in words? thats fucking wild.

I get very caught up in my own monolouge and it makes social situations a strain since sometimes i can barly pay attention to anything around me or other people due to how overwhelming my own inner monologue and mind is. Its at 100% all the time even while trying to sleep and even in dreams. Sadly even most drugs don't shut it out expect like huge amounts of alcohol. When my mind is going like this all the time thinking coming up with fucking anything totally lost in my own world. I am INTP personality type aswell. Maybe this why i like LSD so much since its a drug which goes well with thinking. I wish it would just turn the fuck off sometimes though. Even in total silence and meditation these thoughts never shut off.

Its overwhelming never really getting any peace or rest from your own mind its a vicious cycle you can think your self into bad negative trains always going over everything. My voice will never shut up about even the dumb little things i did as a child. I never got into opiates since they are hard to get i guess they would probably turn my mind off.

On shrooms my inner monologue gets so overwhelming it feels like my brain might explode extreme fast thoughts and about everything all as words inside my head. Maybe the abuse of stimulants over my life made it all the more overwhemling racing and never ending.
 
I think in words sometimes but a lot of the time it's a sort of conceptual/sensory package that if I thought about it, could put into words.
 
I've begun paying closer attention to how I'm thinking under new circumstances. I've had some insightful moments recently due to an illness that has nearly killed me.

I became sick in June with a fever for a week followed by uncontrollable vomiting for hours on end. During the wretching I tore a muscle in my diaphragm and found a new razor like pain from breathing. It caused me to pass out at first but eventually I just settled into wishing to die because I couldn't sleep, eat or even drink water.

The lucid nightmares where a new experience. Because I couldn't hold anything down I had to go off my regular edibles and only managed to vape some marijuana a few times so I detoxed at the same time.

Sitting in a lucid fever induced dream my entire visual was brightly coloured fleshy splashes that are moving like a churning vat. I tried to shift to a dream but it just got covered over by these moving splashes. So I selected just one and followed it to its source which was in my body. There were 8 separate pieces and each one was directly related to a part of my body. One at a time I held each part in mental focus until the pain and the coloured splash that was invading my dream subsided. Eventually I fell to sleep. I kept this practice daily for about a week and other then 17kg weight lose I'm back to normal.

I've had similar fever induced dreams where mostly everything appears as Chaos, this time it felt like if I didn't find a solution in the lucid dream I wasn't going to make it, lack of sleep with excess pain and nausea had me ready to welcome death, just to not continue in the condition I was. Fever induced dreams are never pleasant but I honestly found a way for my brain to answer my bodies demands vs seeking to placate the pain and other symptoms. I really didn't enjoy this sickness, however, I can now meditate successfully while in pain way beyond what I thought possible and I have a new way of thinking for dealing with sickness.
 
I have my own voice in my head talking all the time. I also think in diagrams and what not when I’m at work, definitely more visual under those circumstances. When it comes to music I hear the notes perfectly in my head if I’m reading music. When I’m composing On paper I hear the note In my head and write it down. I’ve also noticed I have layers of thought. What I’m thinking now then another layer has music playing and another has something I’m figuring out going on. There’s about 6 levels of thought going on at any one time. I’ve separated them out before as I thought it was strange but then just figured everyone must have that. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
Xorkoth said:
I have always sometimes referred to myself as "we" in my internal monologue (like "hmm, we should make a sandwich now"), not always though. I identify as a single entity, 100%, so I don't know where that comes from.
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We don't know where that comes from either ;)

But there is a decent amount of evidence that the inner monologue has to do with a brain network dubbed the Default Mode Network, which much psychedelic neuroscience research has revolved around for the past years, in case anyone was curious

I've always thought that people with overactive inner-monologues/dialogues might be predisposed to the rare, odd adverse effects psychoactive drugs. Especially psychedelics and entactogens, the beneficial effects of which have been linked to ego-death/reduction in DMN activity. Same for the benefits of mindfulness meditation, they seem to be linked to reductions in activity of the DMN and an increase in activity a different network dubbed the Executive Control Network. ADD/ADHD medications, when beneficial, seem to increase the activity of ECN and decrease activity of the DMN as well.
 
AbbeyLee said:
I had to think (heh) about this and I vary a lot. I’ll envision scenarios, have conversations with people, compose emails/messages to people, have a particular song stuck in my head.. A strange one is when I get anxious I sometimes start counting. Not counting things like OCC, just 1, 2, 3 etc.
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Wow! AbbeyLee I do very similar things concerning an internal monologue. I count things too, then try to end all my counts with a 4. Weird, isn't it? Man I've got to start laying off the Gabapentin....lol
 
Mine is sometimes pleasant and bright, but many times it is dark but never what I'd consider truly evil - any violence in these thoughts is reactionary because I was provoked in a serious manner. Just dark thoughts about adversaries, people denying me important things, losing things or health problems caused by someone else's actions or omissions, bullies, and killing/fucking them up when I fight back, bad power dynamics, taking adversaries to court, wanting to sue to living shit out of them until they are bankrupt, homeless and destitute, and even self-destruction and suicide, and of course, the most savage violence you could ever think of, even if it was provoked and I was at my wits end.

Trust me, it is not pleasant. I try not to think about these things, but they have a nasty tendency to creep into my mind.

Seeing a doctor about it probably won't help. I wouldn't even confide these thoughts to a counselor because I am afraid I'd intimidate them in some way.

This all stems to the way I was treated as a kid.
 
I have both, i talk and play it out visually in my head. Even with math I'm talking through the process but i see the numbers in my head
 
I don’t have an internal monologue. I didn’t know people had them and I thought when you see it in movies or tv for example, it was just a cheesy cliche way of narrating someone’s thoughts in their own voice so you could know what they were thinking.

i didn’t know people actually thought to themselves in their head in an actual voice and I couldn’t believe it when I found out it wasn’t a joke
 
Yes. These days it's generally more friendly. But when I'm struggling mentally it can be overbearing and downright mean.
 
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