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Do you believe in love?

I agree, I'm dying also and I live better now in many ways than I ever have. If it took a disease to get me here then so be it.
 
other forum, post about 'a jogger knocked me down, should i call the police?' my answer is that you should have got up and called the bastard out. at least yell invectives. i used to be terrified of confrontations. now? apes of all kinds routinely shriek, wave their arms about and slap at each other. that is the normal. you're an ape - own it.
 
Yes, but apes are not posting things on internet forums are they? The right behaviour for an ape is not the right behaviour for us despite us having descended from apes. In truth, the human race could do with a lot less arm-waving, shrieking and slapping and more focused hooting.
 
Yes, I believe in love. But I also recognize, through hard experience, that a lot of what gets called love, and thought of as love, is really just a cover for more selfish motives. True love exists, but like most things worth searching for, it's not easy to find.

For me, true love is when two people enjoy each other's company purely for its own sake, without any ulterior motives on either end.
 
IMO love is an illusion of sorts. Romantic love is a farce and has little to do with love. Unconditional love is non existent. We are designed to do things that in some way we benefit from. So for example if I were to give my life for a loved one it would be because I value their existence above all else, or we are acting in line with the type of person we want to be. So the benefit to us is always there. Few if any would give their life to save a hated or feared Hitler.

Now just because love is conditional in no way means others don't benefit from it or it isn't one of the most beautiful things about being human. Others often do benefit greatly and that's wonderful. I like to use the term "like" instead of love but will default to using "love" because it's easier for others to understand.

I think the cultural stereotype of romantic love is a farce, or more accurately, a stage show each person is playing without realizing it, but I fully believe in real romantic love between people, when they are not acting within a societal constraint of expectations and behaviors.
 
I agree with you on that Lysis.

I think love is out there, but it is so rare. I have found things of the romantic nature to be rather fleeting in life.

I think things like telephones, television, and a great deal of technology ruins life for people as it seems to be a distraction from what I think really matters in life. Human beings are social creatures and well they are all dependent on one another and if someone does not make my life better they need to kick rocks.

I truly believe that pop culture has become too much of a distraction and an opiate of the masses just like organized religion. It is so strange for me to see someone who has made their television or telephone their little God. People get addicted to the things they hate and are rather unaware of this happening. Same deal with consumerism. People get the pop culture they deserve.

Most media is rather censored and people are so concerned with being trendy that they never seem to feel comfortable being themselves. I go about things, truly not caring what other people think of me because it is my life and I should be able to do whatever I want as long I am not treading on someone else.

Art is the only form of expression that is not censored and most people just cannot seem to grasp metaphors and just buy into pop culture and emulate it.

It is rather sad people can no longer appreciate simple things. For example, why take a telephone to a picnic? Why spend time texting people when you go to visit someone? Why do people always have to email instead of sending a letter?

Most people have ulterior motives and well, I doubt I am an exception. I just can't afford to care. I find I enjoy a womans company and well people change so things last and sometimes they come back and sometimes they do not. Usually you wind up being friends to some degree and sometimes things happen again and you enjoy the company.

So showing a bit of respect and not kissing and telling goes a long way towards having a good sex life. Most people are rather lonely even though they are surrounded by people and they do not seem to realize how fast life goes by. I wish things were different, but that is just how things are.

It is very hard for me to understand hopeless romantics because it seems to inflict misery on them.

So that being said, no I do not really believe in love. I do believe it is possible, but so rare. I would just as soon play the field and find someone who I compatible with at the time and hopefully I do find someone who is worth loving but who really knows.
 
Infatuation is something I really do not get but see happen all the time.

Love is such an abstract concept. So many people use the word in vain. I had a friend tell me she loved me and I asked her "what does that even mean?" and she simply repeated herself.

I dunno if she means she loves our friendship or wants more. She has had more with me in the past and I dunno, I actually respect her. I do fancy her in some ways but we both just got out of relationship so I don't want to be a rebound so to speak.

But yeah I suppose as friends we are rather close. So my point is can you love a friend? Maybe, I got some friends whose friendship is like that of the conventional family, but for the most part of it we lack actual family that cares about us.

For me family is not who is your blood, not by a longshot. I suppose the closest thing I feel for love would be the bonds I have with people where it is at the point where so much goes unspoken and the only thing that would break the bond would be complete betrayal. I only have a few friends who I doubt the frienship expands past survival.

I am quite ok with where my life is going and that is because I am making changes and get by with a bit of help from my friends, so maybe that is love?
 
to me, love is real but it is cursed by monogamy and time.

i was doing a research paper last weekend and i came across some journals about how the neurotransmitters that are active in attraction, trust, empathy, and pleasure become desensitized to the feeling just like how drugs do it. so right there, to me, time will make u grow bored of your partner. marriage is something that limits true love as you basically commit to being with someone and if you duck out you lose possessions. also destroys families and children etc.

otherwise, love in the sense of unity and oneness to others is fucking real and frankly the only way to live. it just generally makes you feel good when your actions are driven from love and not fear.

one love <3
 
Revisiting this thread, I will say I do believe in love for my true friends and family.

:)
 
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