Do terpenes and 'profiles' really mean fucking anything?

[Allylbenzene]

As far as the terpenes that’s mostly flavor and aroma imo.

They're all pharmacologically active, in other words: psychoactive. I'd have thought this is common knowledge by now, at least in the cannabis community where terpenes are a regular thing. There's an even larger community who use plant terpenoids for theraputic purposes. They call them essential oils.

 

[neversickanymore]

@Allylbenzene
could be link the studies up.. i no longer work in the field but am interesting in reading them

 

[neversickanymore]

after briefly looking into it further it looks like they have a minor.. not sure i’m totally on board with this at this point..

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006295225007634

lavender and other scents have psychoactive effects on people? How do we know that it’s not just normal stimuli influencing perception?

what’s terpenes actual affect and why does it happen?

 

[Ismene2]

what’s terpenes actual affect and why does it happen?

An example is couchlock - thats myrcene. I think taking an oral dose of myrcene on its own would cause a relaxing sedative effect even without thc.

Dunno about aromas like lavender - you do have to ingest the terpenes to get the effect - sniffing them doesnt work, you may as well huff your own farts.

 

[neversickanymore]

load up some proof aroma therapy relaxes some people.. probably as well as terpenes do?

 

[neversickanymore]

Hey my minds open, but after growing and smoking around 150 different strains over twenty years including warehouses in the the green rush i’m not buying it. prove me wrong.. no AI bullshit either.

 

[Ismene2]

Even Roy Orbison rates myrcene -about 33 seconds in you hear him shout 'Myrcene!'

 

[Ismene2]

You want the most intense sativa you've ever had? Take thc with a pipette full of pinene. Wakes you up.

 

[Allylbenzene]

what’s terpenes actual affect and why does it happen?

The effects vary depending on the terpenoids molecular shape. Terpenoids can interact with practically every area including dopamine, serotonin, opioid, adrenergic, GABA, cannabinoid, glutamate, cholinergic, adenosine, BDNF, Ca/K channels and dozens of enzymes (eg COX2, cytochrome P450, MAO, ALDH).

...link the studies up.. i no longer work in the field but am interesting in reading them

There's too many to list. It's simpler to find them yourself by searching for the terpene name and a relevant receptor/enzyme/etc, eg...
+"limonene" +"serotonin"
+"linalool" +"opioid"
+"myrcene" +"TRPV1"

 

[neversickanymore]

The effects vary depending on the terpenoids molecular shape. Terpenoids can interact with practically every area including dopamine, serotonin, opioid, adrenergic, GABA, cannabinoid, glutamate, cholinergic, adenosine, BDNF, Ca/K channels and dozens of enzymes (eg COX2, P450 CYP*, MAO, ALDH).


There's too many to list. It's simpler to find them yourself by searching for the terpene name and a receptor system, eg +"limonene" +"serotonin"

I’m on the fence right now so load up the research and educate me please..

edit: you don’t have to source everything how about just three or so strong studies so we can have a look.

you have already studied this so clue us in.

 

[Allylbenzene]

I’m on the fence right now so load up the research and educate me please..

edit: you don’t have to source everything how about just three or so strong studies so we can have a look.

you have already studied this so clue us in.

Around 5 years ago I used studies to find out what receptors terpenes were shown to interact with and performed further investigation via first hand observation. It's useful to have terpene isolates to discern them individually but steam-distilled essential oils (pre-mixed terpenes) are also valid. Never ingest undiluted terpene oils, always dilute them in olive oil in the capsule.

If I encounter new studies on terpene pharmacology then that's a chance to learn something new. People are starting to do more detailed research into how terpenes interact with the extended endocannabinoid system which is always interesting. The one everyone knows about is caryophyllene (aka the dietary cannabinoid) which makes caryophyllene-dominant cannabis varieties useful for specific theraputic needs.

As you can probably tell I'm not overly vested in proving xyz so don't consider it necessary to try and convince others.

 

[neversickanymore]

Then post them up.. simple as that.. then we all get to the bottom of this.. that’s how science works right

 

[Allylbenzene]

Then post them up.. simple as that.. then we all get to the bottom of this.. that’s how science works right

It was 5+ years ago, I didn't save the studies.
Terpenes are the tip of the iceberg. Just wait till you discover the controversial arena of psychoactive aldehydes & allylbenzenes.

 

[neversickanymore]

Look em up.. research will be out there

Turn us on

 

[Jibult]

Eh? Ive made multiple posts in this thread saying I've never had any cannabis with terpenes in it for 30 years. Obviously you need to buy the terpenes seperate.

Ahhhh, that was you.

That's a lie, dude. If you actually believe your cannabis hasn't had any terpenes then you've been led astray. It might not necessarily be a lie depending on what falsehoods you choose to call true, but it's blatantly wrong. It spits in the face biology. That's a 10th grade subject. You're spittin' on it, man.

Terpenes are inherent to the plant, determined by genetics and allowed to be properly produced based on growing environment and resources available. They're not added after harvest, they're..... they're just THERE, dude. It doesn't matter the potency.

Unless you're smoking weed that smells like hay, literally like farmyard hay, then you've been smoking cannabis with terpenes in it the past 30 years.

They're not MEANT to be psychoactive in natural doses. You weren't supposed to feel anything different. You take a solid gram of something nature only hits you with 10's of milligrams at a time? Yeah, okay, things are gonna get weird and not always in a good way.

 

[Allylbenzene]

Look em up.. research will be out there

Turn us on

Considering the number of terpenes, the number of possible mechanisms and the multiple angles each mechanism gets explored there's something for everyone. It's easier for the reader to look themselves. But remember, it doesn't really matter if you think they're psychoactive or not!

 

[Ismene2]

Pinene is the sacred spirit of the conifers. Its green crack

Terpenes are fucking tremendous - swallowing some terpenes along with your dope is the future.

Edit: Just tried eating some D9 and then vaping at 3 individual self-filled carts of vape juice to which I added a good slug of myrcene, beta-pinene and terpinolene. I take turns sucking at all 3 carts. Great feeling.

 

[moonyham]

You may know better in your view but i have 20 plus years as master cannabis cultivator,, adding terpenes to your harvest indicates to me you don’t know what your doing and esp have no clue on curing your harvest.
almost if you can’t grow and cure your product then by all means douse it with additive terpenes to pretend you know what you’re doing.

fkn margarine

Hardcore. I couldn't ever imagine spraying anything on plants. Heresy.

 

[Electrum1]

So does my weed lose terpenes when I let it dry out way too much over 6 months time? Because the two strains that I have that I let get bone dry still get me really high. Not as much flavor and definitely lost most of the smell, but they still work great

 

[neversickanymore]

So does my weed lose terpenes when I let it dry out way too much over 6 months time? Because the two strains that I have that I let get bone dry still get me really high. Not as much flavor and definitely lost most of the smell, but they still work great

Absolutely.. if you do a $ cure it will help and then freeze it. It’s not just the terpenes but also chemical changes to the thc.. some of which may not be that negative for results..allot of people really liked mexi shwag back in the day.