also i got 2 30mg T3's (i know they suck) but i am an opiate virgin & if i took one and drank a few bears & smoke some nice budz would i feel the codienEven if you take both, not by themselves. 60 mg of codeine is enough for some pain relief but you probably won't get more than the slightest feeling of drowsiness, even though you are a "virgin". The alcohol and marijuana would just override whatever slight buzz you might have gotten anyway. IME a little alcohol can be ok with not-quite-enough-hydrocodone to get a stronger buzz, but that's about it.
I would just eat all three pills together (sounds like you found only one Lorcet?) - that'd be 10 mg hydrocodone and 60 mg codeine, and together you might get a rather mild but perhaps enjoyable buzz. If the "codeine is 6 times less potent" formula is true, then that would be sort of like taking 20 mg hydrocodone. And even when I first started experimenting with painkillers, 20 mg was like the minimum I needed to get a mild buzz. You might try a little alcohol with it, but mind that's not happy for your liver to combine APAP and alcohol.
[ 23 May 2002: Message edited by: stardragon ]