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Do Opiates Cause You to Act Crazier than You Think??

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I wasn't quite sure how to phrase this question, but an ex of mine used to take a bunch of pills (high doses of methadone, hydrocodone etc) every day, and after they kicked in, he would behave really bizarrely and erratically (stealing the neighbors goat because his mom wanted him to mow the lawn) and not quite remember it. Its as if he would become a totally different person while high, and not notice.

8) DuH! You say...but what Im getting at is, some of you might have enough experience being intoxicated that you know your limitations, and how the drugs you use effect you. I have a pretty seasoned liver if I may say so myself, and when I use a substance, it is rarely used with the intention of heavy intoxication. I like to have my wits about me.

I'm relatively new to opiates, or that is, being addicted to opiates. Is it common for people on opiates to think they are acting normal when they are actually acting strangely? More so than other drugs?

I have a little background in meditation, so would be extra-interested to hear from anyone who is familiar with watching their mind.
Any stories out there?

=D thanks!
 
I used to think I act completely normal on opiates, but there are somethings I have noticed that I do different from when I'm sober.

One thing is, I have a lot more mood swings. I can go from being so happy and loving everyone to yelling and crying in a few minutes.

Another thing is, my mom said the other night I asked her what diseases you can get from shooting up, and I have no memory of that at all. I think it was when I was on heroin, I must have asked her and not remembered.

Another thing is, I often like will have heart to heart talks with people, about like serious things, or how great I think they are, and then later realize it was just the drugs talking.

I do think you can get pretty fucked up on them, but it is more subtle... not like alcohol, so it is harder to notice.
 
Well i only notice i happen to get a little bit more irratible but its also a combination of the pain im in and being drowsy all the time , i normally just like to do what i want and be left alone . but if someone keeps naggin and naggin then yeah i fly off the handle alot faster than normally .. but i also happen to calm down quicker which is an added bonus.
 
I guess im asking because I was recently told at work that 'im a totally different person' than I was two years ago (when I started the job).

I have knowingly shifted my behavior because there was a point when minimum wage went up and all the cooks are making barely above, and we were all talking about quitting if we didn't get a raise too. We didn't get a raise, and for one reason or another, didn't quit. But I've been letting the stress get to me because I feel like I'm being worked much harder than I am being compensated for.
My boss is very daft, and every one of his employees (with the exception of one old lady and one sheltered teen) are drug users and/or alcoholics. He doesn't suspect the extent of everyone's use, but has been insinuating that my change in behavior is due to some sort of drug problem.
I'm pretty sure its behavior I have consciously allowed, perhaps aggrivated by opiates/ lack of opiates.

But when thinking back on my ex, I had to wonder if it was common for opiate addicts to start to act crazy or something. Maybe his problem was plain old psychosis.
 
Idk Tramadol and some others sometimes made me a lil hyper before the nod. I couldn't shut the hell up. Once I was texting someone and the told me I wasn't making any sense, but it made perfect sense to me, but thats text messages, things can get lost in translation sober...
 
i just turn into an asshole...but its really that everyone needs to shut the heck up and fuck off for a bit.
 
Opiates chill me out and turn me into an even nicer person than I normally be.
 
opiates but me ina good mood but when im 'comming down' i can get pretty fiesty or nasty, and argue and things piss me of very eaisly
 
i think i act normal on opiates, but people say i talk way too much about irrevelant things and i stay stuck on completely stupid subjects...the itching is a big give away too...
 
i used to get mood swings when i came down on opiates, particularly only oxycodone, and hydrocodone, but good ol' dope im just mellow and maybe crave a little for it when the buzz wears off but thats it
 
I think opiates are a little similar to speed in this respect. Whilst on it you're convinced that you're acting completely normally. People who observe the reality of your behaviour may think differently.

When I was on heroin everybody I knew said that I acted differently. Not especially oddly, more just permanently distracted, disconnected and distant. Probably because I was permanently distracted, disconnected and distant.
 
(stealing the neighbors goat because his mom wanted him to mow the lawn)
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lol wut?


Irritability, which for all intensive purposes I'm including mood swings in, can happen. IME, it is more common with the "stimulating" opiates such as oxycodone and bupe. It happens, but it's not that common...


Another thing I've noticed, is that for some people including myself, opiates loosen inhibitions. Even more so than alcohol. By that I mean, I'd say(and to a lesser degree) do things without thinking of the ramifications. I'm not talking about doing crazy things, like one would expect on pcp; it's more of a subtle thing. :\

With chronic use, those issues tend to go away, IME.
 
phrozen said:
Another thing I've noticed, is that for some people including myself, opiates loosen inhibitions. Even more so than alcohol. By that I mean, I'd say(and to a lesser degree) do things without thinking of the ramifications. I'm not talking about doing crazy things, like one would expect on pcp; it's more of a subtle thing. :\
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That's what was escaping me - damn my swiss-cheese mind. Not thinking of the consequences - just acting on impulse and doing anything necessary to get what you need - is a definite opiate trait. I never did anything malicious, at least not to my mind, but my judgement was certainly clouded. Look up the word "manipulative" in the dictionary and it says "For 'manipulative' see 'junky'" :\.
 
I get overlly sincere and treat people like my best friend, and occasionly have a case of opiate rage. I think any signifcant changes are a result of me feeling unstoppable, and taking more risks.
 
no, you don't act crazier but you do act more fucked up than you would think you are. like, for example, you would be feeling awesome on some heroin and nodding a little. but to someone else's eye, they see someone staggering around nodding their head back and forth, barely keeping their eyes open.
 
This thread reminds me of a thanksgiving 2 years ago.

I was blasted on heroin and my entire family was over having dinner. I kept nodding out and burned a hole in my dads couch. In the family picture I could barely keep my eyes open, and I had one eye way cockeyed and my mouth open with a look of opiate bliss on my face. Everyone kept asking me if i was ok, and I was like "oh yeah i'm fine...just great.." mumbling and shit.

But more of what the OP was asking, a few years before my thanksgiving incident i went to the warp tour on like 200mgs of oxy. I was actin like a complete ass, running around screaming in peoples faces and grabbing girls asses. Which is completely out of character for me, I'm a pretty quiet introverted guy. I didn't know how retarded i was until my friends told me on the way back home. Apparently I grabbed some girls ass in front of her dad and he wanted to kick my ass or something. I was completely oblivious to all of this. :\

toastedpanda said:
I think any signifcant changes are a result of me feeling unstoppable, and taking more risks.
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Beginning of a good hydrocodone high, I've been guilty of doing a little opie-dialing...calling people in my phone that I really wouldn't give two shits to talk to normally(and probably haven't talked to in months etc) but all warmed up I want to see what's going on. Anyone else do this??
 
Yeah I always call random people on hydro's. Then when I'm sober I realize I don't even really like them. It's good to help make sure I keep in touch with my family though. Nothing like connecting with dear ol' dad on an opiod high.
 
theotherside26 said:
Yeah I always call random people on hydro's. Then when I'm sober I realize I don't even really like them. It's good to help make sure I keep in touch with my family though. Nothing like connecting with dear ol' dad on an opiod high.
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True. I'd say it's about half and half. I do love talking to my brother and sister, both whom I rarely see. I just hope I don't seem too "happy" because they're not down with pills:p
 
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