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Do most people smoke weed before trying LSD?

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Redman42

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I have been wanting to try LSD, but haven't ever smoked weed, and don't want to. But I am also wondering if most people would recommend to do so beforehand. What do you think?

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not really man, i hadnt smoked weed much before i took lsd and had definitely not been what i would call properly stoned.
 
Whatever you do, don't smoke it while you're trippin on acid.. I did on shrooms and got super tripped out, and I have smoked a lot
There is no reason to try weed, unless you feel like it. I think weed is pretty nice when you're bored or feel a little depressed
 
Most people who use lsd tried cannabis first. It is not necessary, but I think it would be a good idea to start out with weed before you move on to more powerful stuff. If you don't want to, there is no reason why you would have to though. Just start with a very low dose of lsd and work your way up. Have you used any other drugs before?
 
^I think that's the general misconception, that the cannabis experience is somehow less 'powerful' than that of LSD. They're quite different in action and some people find cannabis to be more anxiogenic than LSD.
 
Yes, cannabis can produce very powerful effects, especially for a person without tolerance. Completely overwhelming OEV's, blacking out, etc. but this is mainly for very high doses. I wasn't referring to anxiety though. I meant that lsd can produce a far more profound change in consciousness than weed. "Weirder" might be more accurate. For people whose only experience with drugs is maybe alcohol and tobacco, a couple of puffs of weed would be much smaller step than going to acid. A weed high is much more understandable and easier to integrate than a psychedelic experience.
 
^ Is it really a misconception? Sure, if you take a few bong rips you can run into some powerful psychedelic effects. They might even be on par with an acid trip- but if you stop smoking those effects will fade in a few hours at most. By contrast, even 50 ug of LSD can make me too twisted to drive for six hours or so.

If my friend has never tried any drugs and she takes one puff from my joint, I won't say "Whoa there, better crash here tonight so you don't have to drive." If she takes half a tab of my acid instead though, it's another story. The point being, cannabis is a lot more forgiving and easier to get started with, if only because it doesn't require a commitment of several hours every time I take it.

^That's my anecdotal testimony, YMMV I guess.

All that said, I agree that there's really no reason you have to smoke weed before you trip acid. I know a couple of people who tried LSD before cannabis, one of them never smoked at all. Just follow the usual advice and you'll be fine!
 
Ok thanks for all the replies. And to Alexander Shulgin, no I haven't tried any other drugs before. LSD just seems different, a more philosophical drug.
 
Don't do anything because you feel there is an expectation on you. I'm sure that taking acid as a 'drug virgin' will be better/more wonderful than if you go into the experience with preconceptions caused by the use of other drugs.
 
Cannabis can generally do a lot of things along the direction of what LSD can do, only it is typically a lot more fuzzy and LSD can go so much further and is better to depend on for hard trips. With something like cannabis edibles you can definitely trip, but it is also easy to just fall asleep on high doses.

Weed has been considered a gateway drug for a long time, probably because the threshold to take it is lower (it is considered much less extreme and more casual) plus it can demonstrate a lot of different kinds of drug effects like stimulant, depressant, dissociative, psychedelic, entheogenic and perhaps even empathogenic.

I did try weed in high school before I started trying more serious drugs in college, but I don't think it is a requisite before trying LSD.
People form a lot of ideas about these things before actually trying them, like trying mushrooms first because the trip is a couple of hours shorter and they may have been told things about it being a safer, natural drug. Personally I find mushrooms to be much more hardcore than LSD, something most people unfamiliar with the territory find hard to believe.
For similar reasons, I think a number of people consider cannabis to be an introduction because it tends to be lighter, the duration is shorter, and they can check if getting psychedelia and intoxication makes them anxious which would mean something for their disposition to trip on acid.
While I think that cannabis is not necessarily a bad introduction to anything, I feel people should be very careful about their preconceptions. They should realize that beginners can easily overdose on cannabis and this can make them terribly anxious, but that does not mean they are not the kind of people for psychedelia. It means cannabis is a drug of its own and there are traps to be avoided, that otherwise can complicate things in ways that don't necessarily say anything about you. Just about the way you (badly) approached it and handled it.
 
don't want to

If you don't want to take something then don't. If it's your first time taking LSD you might rather have it on it's own anyway. Some people like to try drugs without anything else affecting it so they know what the pure effects are, then they can mix other substances later on (if they want to) so they can compare it with the original experience.
 
I read several reports where users provoked bad trips on psychedelics because they took weed beforehand...
 
I didn't think we were discussing the combination though. I guess it wasn't specified if smoking weed 'beforehand' means *right* before or somewhere anywhere in the past.

But for what it's worth: despite weed's ability to kick it all up a notch after a great number of trips I still decided it is just too unpredictable to do it during the peak or early plateau of a drug and I would rather start boosting on the afterglow. Of course, there are a few drugs that just aren't interesting to me unless I have used cannabis.
 
A very good point that was made is that you would probably benefit from abandoning expectations and preconceptions.
It is understandable because without them it is hard to decide to choose to do something or decide against it.

Yet, expectations and preconceptions will mostly cause you to become conflicted, because even though some expectations may turn out to be true for you, a lot of them will prove to be false or liable to misinterpretation.
Save yourself this confusion, when you decide to trip, just forget about things anyone said it is and just decide on all of that for yourself. That way there should be a lot less dissonance. And everything about the experience you will find is made into your own truths.

Are we to understand from your thanks that you consider the topic answered already?
 
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