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Do healthy fit people have an easier time going through WDs than couch potatoes?

NerdOnDrugs

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It has to stand to reason that people who exercise regular, eat right, have a good immune system, etc.. are able to stave off WD symptoms easier than someone on a horrible diet who doesn't exercise. And they always say to people after WDing, "If you can, exercise, and fix your diet."

They already have studies suggesting simple exercise is more affective than xanax than anxiety. Running gives you similar endorphins to cannabis use. So the active person already has these tools at their disposal during WDs, not to mention a better regulated body to handle the WDs. Not to mention exercise improves cognition.

This forum has lots of people, probably more couch potatoes than marathon runners. But it'd be interesting to see what people, especially people who have WD'd while in shape and out of shape, have to say on the topic.
 
NerdOnDrugs said:
It has to stand to reason that people who exercise regular, eat right, have a good immune system, etc.. are able to stave off WD symptoms easier than someone on a horrible diet who doesn't exercise. And they always say to people after WDing, "If you can, exercise, and fix your diet."

They already have studies suggesting simple exercise is more affective than xanax than anxiety. Running gives you similar endorphins to cannabis use. So the active person already has these tools at their disposal during WDs, not to mention a better regulated body to handle the WDs. Not to mention exercise improves cognition.

This forum has lots of people, probably more couch potatoes than marathon runners. But it'd be interesting to see what people, especially people who have WD'd while in shape and out of shape, have to say on the topic.
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Yeah, that's what I thought too. However, a couple of my friends are body-builders and work out and eat healthy religiously, but are also oxy-addicts. Their withdrawals are just as bad as my oxy-addicted friends who don't do shit....weird I know. It probably depends ALOT on the person.
 
Well, being super fit helps, but if you are not dont let that be an excuse to be extra miserable. I think youthfulness plays a bigger part really.
 
When i was going through WD's, i wasnt in terrible shape, i just had a terrible diet. It made all the stomach problems so much worse. My diet used to take a turn for the worst when id start using. I never ate until the first dose of the day wore off. On days when i didn't get a dose, i didnt usually eat. Now i keep a well balanced diet. If youre going to do things that can be hard on your body, at least have a good diet.
 
Simple answer = YES
huge difference between when I was not exercising regularly and now.

Also Huge helper... Buy the Vitamin C product called 'EmergenC' mix 2 X 1000 mg packets in one glass of water. 2-3x per day. (I get the shits if i take all 6k mg to close together) for 3-4 days after a binge. It makes water taste better (and you need the water) with the big benefit being it REMOVES TOXINS FROM YOUR SYSTEM!

So here is my crappy scientific (ish) attempt to explain: When there is 2000 mg of vitamin C in your body, it ch-elates. this is now partical that has a charged ION (or something) with a charge that is opposite to that of the toxins that are built up in our systems. The ch-elated vitamin C attaches to the toxin a and you then can piss it out just like any extra water soluble vitamin you have in your system. Otherwise, the toxin pretty much stays there for a long ass time. I was told about this almost 2 years ago by a doctor. So some of what I said may not be exactly right as far as terminology goes, but it does work like a champ!
 
^I am very skeptic to all these "flush toxins out of your system" withdrawal aides.

Being fit = feels better than being a couch potato in general, during withdrawals would be no different I think.

However that will not make withdrawals less severe, you will probably feel as bad, though it might be easier to get back on track again if you are already exercising and eating healthy.
 
Withdrawals are going to suck regardless.
If you are healthy after the most severe part is over, you can go out in the sun and do something.
 
I think the severity of withdrawal has more to do with length of addiction, doses used, and mental fortitude than with physical shape. my .02
 
I think I've concluded that ON AVERAGE it is as close to objective as you can get that healthy fit people tend to have easier WDs. I see no really good challenge to that.

However in the end mental overcomes the physical in so many realms that genetics, intelligence, or even just your outlook on life could let you ease through WDs better than any fit person.

(P.S. And sorry to all the out-of-shape addicts out there, I've just been getting into cardio and all that shit. So I want affirmation that I'm creating some Ubermensch capable of withstanding any WD with the flick of his wrist... :) )
 
SirTophamHat said:
I think the severity of withdrawal has more to do with length of addiction, doses used, and mental fortitude than with physical shape. my .02
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What if the severity of someone's withdrawal is already pre-determinded by their existing diet and fitness level prior to withdrawal? That's what I'm saying. Length of addiction, etc.. just tells you how long the WDs will be, fit or not.

Totally agree on mental fortitude being able to overcome though.
 
I think my wds are less when Im in good health. I still bitched as much.

Its a very good idea to start exercising even while detoxing, especially if you get leg cramps. Endorphins help a lot. Also eating right and exercising is a great lifestyle choice and makes anyone feel better physically and mentally.
I prefer healthy food for some reason. Its a blessing as I hate greasy food. I like exercise and it makes me feel good.

When I get off opiates I step up my exercise to as much as possible.
 
Not sure if this is relevant,, but I was a hardcore drinker for 20 years and quit cold turkey,, I am 45, 6' , 160 lbs soaking wet and in great shape,,but I didn't find the wd that bad, not compared to the horror stories you hear ,,but either way, I attribute it to 2 things,being in shape/keeping busy and mindset ,,
 
fearnoevilll said:
Not sure if this is relevant,, but I was a hardcore drinker for 20 years and quit cold turkey,, I am 45, 6' , 160 lbs soaking wet and in great shape,,but I didn't find the wd that bad, not compared to the horror stories you hear ,,but either way, I attribute it to 2 things,being in shape/keeping busy and mindset ,,
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I had to go to the hospital every time Ive quit drinking. I had a seizure in the hospital the last time. How much where you drinking? Do you not get DTs or the shakes. Id get the shakes by 3-4 pm and Id absolutely have to have a drink by then or Id go into DTs.
 
fearnoevilll said:
Not sure if this is relevant,, but I was a hardcore drinker for 20 years and quit cold turkey,, I am 45, 6' , 160 lbs soaking wet and in great shape,,but I didn't find the wd that bad, not compared to the horror stories you hear ,,but either way, I attribute it to 2 things,being in shape/keeping busy and mindset ,,
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Of course it's relevant. Alcohol should be considered a "hard drug" if we judged it by the same standards as all other recreation drugs.

Right up with heroin and.. well not meth...
 
NerdOnDrugs said:
What if the severity of someone's withdrawal is already pre-determinded by their existing diet and fitness level prior to withdrawal? That's what I'm saying. Length of addiction, etc.. just tells you how long the WDs will be, fit or not.

Totally agree on mental fortitude being able to overcome though.
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What I'm saying is that physical fitness factors into the experience of withdrawal much less than those other variables.

I am not disputing that exercise can aid in recovery. That has been proven and is self-evident. How in-shape one is at the time of the withdrawal, is *in my opinion*, of relative little importance.
 
SirTophamHat said:
How in-shape one is at the time of the withdrawal, is *in my opinion*, of relative little importance.
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^believe it or not, it's a factor

if you are un-fit, high blood pressure, etc. - the hot/cold flashes are going to be worse.

If you're fit, regular blood pressure, etc. - the hot/cold flashes aren't going to be as bad.

Fit people still have gnarly withdrawal syndromes/symptoms though, I can vouch for my kind. =D
 
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