^ hilarious deflection.
Of course it was deliberate, I could have easily done a web search to find what I needed, as I am not a moron. I decided to make you do the legwork. I'm pretty good at manipulating people if I want to.
I find it funny you think you're ending it with agree to disagree, then carrying on. Sexual attraction is animalistic primarily, and psychological to a lesser extent.
Of course it won my point. We are mammals, we act the same, except we have ego as well. Of course I'm not willing to take what you're saying as you have made it clear in your retorts that you don't understand what I am saying.
Let's get back to actually answering your post.
I can compare a sheep to a human, justly, or any other mammal in how they act sexually, because we are often (unless self disciplined) governed by our baser instincts. These have nothing to do with psychology UNTIL our ego comes into play - it's not the other way round all the time as you state. if I wanna fuck a girl in a club, it's not necessarily just because I'm lonely, it's because her childbearing hips appeal to my mammal side, her whole body tells me she gonna be a good mother when I push my seed in her...now ego gets involved because I have to work out how, if I actually do want to succumb to my baser instincts and fuck her etc.
So if I happen to be homosexual(which I am, but as I said I am primarily hetero, therefore bisexual), I see a guy's body, naked body even - I don't think, I just feel on an animal level that we should fuck. Then ego comes into play, when I think of an MO for action, or when they notice and we start talking
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Humans fall inlove with the intracate personalities of each other, the compassion and understanding.
Sheeps go "Baaaaa!"
And while both have to have a biological basis for having sex, and both express it to either sex... the human has one thing totally separate to animals. An Ego. And the ego plays a BIG role in sexual desire. Therefore it is unfair to compare the homosexuality of a sheep, to that of a human.
Are you saying I am wrong in suggesting sexuality has a predominant psychological basis? Thats madness.
Have you ever really liked someone, then found out they liked you back even more... then you lost all interest? you're attraction was psychological, not biological. It involved your ego, not your body which remained the same.
Have you ever met someone, felt little attraction to them... then they end up going for a mate of urs coz she thinks they're hotter than you... then you got frustrated and upset at her and started to fancy her? psychological attraction, not biological.
or have you yourself liked someone, but not been liked back... so started flirting her mates...hurt her esteem...she got all upset at you and started liking you... psychological, not biological.
have you ever been lonely, and really liked someone... but later in life came to your senses and thought "How did i like her"? Psychological, not biological.
If emotions such as anger and hatred are triggered... they often carry along sexual desire. PSYCHOLOGICAL. not biological
And when you meet a girl in a pub, and start lying about how much money you have to get her attention, you're playing psychological games with her, not biological games.
Do you get my point!? Everyones trying to figure out the psychological tricks to being fancyed. We all want to be desirable.
This is not based on Fallacy... it's just plain common sense to anyone who spends a moments thought on it.
And if psychology is so pre-dominant in heterosexual desires, why can't it be in homosexual desires also? As you said yourself, they're both naturally occurring.
A homosexual sheep plods around and goes "baaa", til another gay one fucks it. That's a biological attraction for you.
...If we could agree that homosexual desire in humans has a pschological basis, you may understand why a lot of gay men have repressed issues towards other men... Psychological complexes from feeling low and unattractive, envy, jealousy.
we agree only on the fact that attraction
sometimes has a psychological basis. Either hetero/bi/homosexually.
Sometimes.
Have you ever just relaxed and realized that someone is attracted to you without you making any effort at all, and once you realize it, ya feel chuffed because actually you'd been scoping them out too, so all you have to do is keep relaxing, do your mating dance, talk a lil and get what you want, no ego involved?
Yeah I am sure you have.
Why would homosexual men have repressed issues with men - as soon as they accept their sexuality - as soon as we work through our issues and find our sexuality, in truth, there is no room for psychological complexes regarding sexuality, especially if we are self disciplined.
Where does your foundation for saying that (hetero)sexuality is predominantly psychological even come from, other than your limited observations? You gave some examples, I could give some too - we can rationalize anything we like, does not make it true.
Also why are you throwing up a bunch of examples where attraction can be psychological, but stating this is evidence that it is predominantly or even exclusively so? What is the point in that? It proves that
sometimes it is psychological, which is something I never argued against, it was never even an issue...you made it an issue and something to base EVERYTHING you say on - which is crap and just makes you look ridiculous.
You're not going to understand, until you do - your examples as I say don't fit the conversation we are having, other than to confirm some attraction is based solely on psychology.
Anyways I am going to end this now. I ended it last night, but the post didn't save somehow - go study.
