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Do fiends ruin the opiate economy for everyone else?

guys, look i understand alot of you drink orange juice, and thats cool and all, but i cant seem to find one single glass of orange juice



can you juice heads PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD stop consuming so much orange juice and leave some for some of us who arent quite as, um, scummy?
 
Not really that smart of a post...you don't have the right kinects, thats your problem...because there is definetly WAY MORE then enough opiates to go around for everyone so leave your redneck town.
 
MemphisX3, cut down the personal attacks please.

LoL @ 'show some restraint'

Man, at the height of my addiction I was using multiple grams of heroin a day or 20 8mg Dilaudid tablets. Fuck moderation, man. Other people aren't going to tailor their use so that you can get some drugs.

As for how you pay for it. Shit, dude is that even serious? There's a difference between a recreational user and a drug addict. I use to work full time hustling enough cash together to get fucked up every day.

What you need to do is hit the pavement and do some work in order to find new connections. The only person you have to blame for bad connects is yourself.

The proposition you're putting to us is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long ass time.
 
1. You have to be Helen Keller to be unable to find dope in an area where it's prevalent. The shit practically finds you, seriously. Plenty of drugs to go around.

2. If it weren't for the "fiends" there would be no market because dealers would make almost no money and you wouldn't be able to get any opiates.

3. People with large tolerances drive the price down, not up. If 15mg got anybody and everybody completely stoned then they'd cost you double what you pay now. Drugs can only sell for as much as people are able to pay. People like you could afford to pay even more than you do because of the small quantity involved; addicts doing 500mg/day couldn't. Be thankful.

4. If copping percocets is too much of a "dangerous experience", get the fuck out of the game. You're dealing with a black market, you either put up with inconvenience or walk away and never look back. The people giving you what you want take more risk than you do and the balance is that if you're not happy, you don't have to give him your money. It's pretty simple.

I have a feeling I just got trolled so hard...
 
If you want some advice just talk to your sources. Know when they're picking up their script/stash and make plans in advance. When I used pills I knew when people were getting refills and planned accordingly (especially with my friend who got Opana:)). If you know when they cop and buy a decent amount most dealers will start calling you as soon as they're good to make money ASAP.

If you don't buy regularly or in big amounts then dealers tend to forget about you.
 
lacey k said:
L O fuckin L, vaportrails. Wow.

I know you are serious, but i dont think you are aware that your post seriously, seriously sounds like a complete attempt to troll us all.

The shit you are sayin is straight up ridiculous yo.

I honestly cant believe you are sayin this stuff with a straight face. "Hey addicts, how bout you show a little self control so my occasional recreational-using ass can have a easier time buying pills?"

People who cant stop to stay out of jail. Who cant stop to save their marriage or devoted relationship with someone they love more than life itself. Who cant stop to keep their kids out of foster care. Who cant stop for their parents who cry every day and beg them to stop and constantly give chance after second chance after 10th chance to the kid who robs all their valuables and steals their car to go cop and etc. People who cant stop for 3 days to piss clean for probation even tho they know they will go to jail if they come up dirty. People who cant stop so they do shit they never dreamed they would even consider doing just so they can get high.

And you think they should stop or cut down their use out of COURTESY for somebody they dont know to keep the "opiate economy" more "fair"?

Jesus christ that is some silly ass shit.

You gotta be seriously deluded to believe that that could ever happen, or that its even fair or reasonable to suggest.

You got bad connects--that sucks. The problem aint with other people its with your connects and your situation. It aint up to nobody else to change their use for YOU.

Anyways be thankful. If you cant catch a nod off your 3 percs once every few months youll shrug your shoulders and be like, oh well.

thats a lot less of a burden to have to bear than the shit that addicts gotta deal with when they cant get shit.

Also , i really dont know where you at but there is always, always a supply. there aint no opiate shortage. Nobody owes a damn thing to nobody else to buy less pills so that weekend users with no tolerance and no habit can have fun once in a while. That aint our responsibility. It aint like people with big habits are doing it for FUN. Jesus yo, you do realize that they NEED THAT MUCH to function? It aint like some kind of thing where they are just "hogging" all the pills cuz they are selfish bastards, they are doing wat they need to do to SURVIVE.

This is the most insane thread i seen in a long time.

Ima leave it open for now, even tho my first instinct was to close it for bein so nutz but im gettin some enjoyment outta readin how its goin so Ima leave it open for now. Im sure this will be a fun thread to watch.
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haha awesome reply, i agree with this.
 
Dude, I have no idea what you're talking about. My dope dealer always has dope, and my pill connect always can get pills. There's no such thing as "taking too much" when it comes to getting opiates. However much you want is how much you get, regardless of who else is buying, and if it affects anything I'd say it would be more likely to ensure that they would have even more product so that they can cover everyone in case they get a spike in sales. I'm also pretty sure that junkies aren't the ones making your pill copping a hassle. A lot of the dealers in my area, including the ones I go to, have a pretty simple method; You call or text them, say "yo man, can I come down for a bun?" and they say "yeah, usual place". Then you drive over to the same place as the time before, call them to tell them you're parked up, then they walk up and get in your car, you drive around the block and make the exchange, then you drop them off and go on your way. Not much hassle involved.

I think you're theory is just off base and you have connects that aren't very good dealers. My guess is that since you say you use occasionally that you probably have dealers that are only occasional dealers and just so happen to sell whatever comes their way, and they don't bother keeping a constant supply or bother making a quick, easy process for meeting up since they don't deal that consistently. Trust me man, pretty much any "real" dealer isn't going to be constantly out of product or making it harder to meet because they have a lot of customers. It would just be dumb and nonsensical is that was the case.
 
yes absolutely...
this is something i think about often, especially when im on fire with w/d. the thing is, 50-60-80 mg cold-turky oxy w/d, is more of a great sense of malaise and discomfort, very irritating.
what really takes its toal, is the reason i take these short lived high potential for mental addiction tic-tac 7.5 endocet, for near eight months, after 18 months of day and night, un able to actually fully recall, brilliant perfect pain, of all sorts, devastation for all close to me progressive permanent pain that will kill me eventually.

this is what others and myself withdraw back into, not societal or self escape/sobriety. they can be vital for some to live and function, contribute to society, and retain their sanity.

this is what it is, awful migratory pain, and fearing or fighting is only more self destructive.
im wasting rapidly, my sense of hunger seems destroyed, as well as my libido, in all honesty, after fucking several times a day, or as much as seems fair, and some wanks often, now it hits me every couple months or less, its just switched off...

during the infusion of the drug Remicade , i made them stop because of awful chest pain, on november 23 2009, and it hasnt stopped since.

i, and other for life chronic pain patients do need these drugs, the other options unless called for specifically are horrendous.
doctors and patients, with no real pain, or who are unwilling to try other therapies or drugs, need to be reevaluated. it makes for people suffering, families ruined, suicide, street narcotics being seen as the only/easiest option.


i know fiends have a major impact on my quality of life... in fucking deed.
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I know a few people like this I use to be addicted to painkillers like hydrocodone tramadol and percocet I stopped using opiates it wasn't much of a physical addiction more mental I use to take quite a few i would know a friend that had some either i get them for free cheap or trade something for something like a gram of salvia for 5 pills something like that ive moved more into psychedelics.
 
^^huh? your reply aint got nothing to do with the question...

Panic in paradise....the op is askin if feens ruin the "opiate economy" as far as "taking too many pills" off the black market and reduce the black market supply by buying "too many" so that the weekend users cant get high.

I agree that the fakers and people who scam doctors make it harder for the folks who need legit pain meds to get the care they need. but that aint wat hes talkin about and I think that is the general idea of ur reply. I aint 100 % on it but it sounded like you were sayin that the addicts ruin pain management for the folks who need it which is true. but i dont see how thats related to the supply of pills on the black market and who is buyin them all.

This guy aint worried about people like you who got chronic pain and are suffering and need PM drugs. He is just bitchin becuz he thinks that the reason he can never find pills to buy is becuz all those pesky addicts buy em all up before he gets a chance to. I wouldnt be so sympathetic to him .....dudes just a weekend warrior who got shitty connects and feels like somehow, the people who rarely ever use, got more of a "right" to have "first dibs" on the black market supply of painkillers than the people who need em everyday to function. so he thinks that everybody addicted to pills who needs them, should just " show some restraint" and stop buying pills so that there will be more pills available whenever the occasional, recreational, once in a while users randomly decide to get high for a weekend. =P It aint got nothing to do with caring about the folks who are in legit pain and need the meds or nothin like that.
 
yea, it sucks, I'm in the same situation. Opiates are extremely scarce in my area, and when they are around they cost an arm and a leg.

Oxycodone here goes for a dollar per milli! I mean I wouldn't mind Opana being that high, but for a 2 hour buzz---and forget about nodding---no way. You can blame the junkies for the high prices, because they are the only ones that will pay that much.

And forget about a hassle-free drug deal. The only way this will happen is with weed, and that's if your pals with the dude.
 
Vaportrails said:
Look, I'm not coming down on people who use opiates. That would make me a terrible hypocrite.

I'm just saying, show a bit of restraint and have some consideration for keeping pills cheap and accessible for all. I mean, look around. Doctors aren't prescribing medication, police are on the lookout, human vacuum cleaners are killing the local supplies by literally eating hundreds of dollars worth of oxy every day, and it's all because fiends can't show a little self-control.
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You're an asshole dude. You have no idea what you're talking about. People like you annoy me more than any type of drug user out there. Human Vaccum cleaners? I would punch you in the face for that and I quit using long ago. Just because you pissy fit and your shitty dealers get a a very small amount of pills and sell them like there hot shit doesnt mean you have to bag on everyone. Go to a real professional get diagnosed for something real or your just as bad as the next fucking faker. punk. jeeeeezzz :|8)
 
daam guys. just go to fucking jersey. you can cop some dope any time you want. its like a dope heads paradise. OP i just think you need to get better connects, and stop thinking you have such a right to the pills over someone who needs them to function. haha. its not like addicts are like "oh im gonna get myself addicted to this" i mean some do but most dont care, find that it helps them, and then bam its kinda too late to really care. just get some better connects or do a more available opiate. OCs are hard to find in my old town, or they were maaaaad expensive. dope was way "smarter" expense and availability wise..

dope fiends are not ruining the "economy" they are the ones who keep it running. supply and demand man. if everyone was just an occasional recreational user, then who the fuck would wanna be a drug dealer in the first place..business would be mad fucking slow. and idk where you live but dope usually goes cheap for a bag. i mean if your an occasional user why would you complain about that. its not like you need to spend 100 on it every day. dope fiends should be the ones complaining, not you. you just dont know the right people. and dont say that dope is worse then OCs and opana because it is basically the same thing. one is just prescribed and full of binders.

and yeah i agree, you are being kinda unrealistic here. like just because you wanna use you look down upon a fiend. why dont you get an addiction and come back and tell me what you think then. then complain about scarcity and price. im a recreational user because dope was never my thing but im not complaining about not being able to find it or having to spend X amount on a bundle and only getting one bag out of 10 because my bf is w/d. like if you have never been in that position i dont think you have a right to say anything. just sayin you should have some experience..or see someone go through a real addiction.
 
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LOL, is this serious?

Look Mr. "BUT I HAVE MONEYYYYY", I am certain that your nice suburban cul-de-sac is lined with homes, probably those of your friends, with medicine cabinets containing bottles of hydro, oxy, tramadol, or whatever, prescribed for sports injuries and the like, mishaps which occur as y'all partake of your suburban activities. Just go over to visit Brian or Kevin, watch the game in their well-appointed great room, drink one brewski, and maybe mention, hey, I think I pulled a muscle using the leaf blower the other day, do you happen to have a Vicodin? (Make sure to use the brand name, or Scott won't know what you're talking about.) he'll say, hey sure broheim, Michelle has almost an entire bottle left over from her root canal, she only took one but it made her too sleepy to drive the van to Madison's soccer practice, you can have the rest of'em if you want!" Then you will be in possession of anywhere between 14-19 "Vikes", (cause you are probably a really cool dude and know all the slang terminology, amirite?) You can then put them aside and do your weekend warrioring whenever you feel like it! Of course, you may wake up one day to an empty bottle wanting one...no, it might be a little more than a "want", in fact, a small part of you might be yearning for a pill, and then you'll have to hit up Jason & Amy catty-corner to you. Then, there will come a day when you have raided everyone's medicine cabinets, but hey, you heard a rumor that Drake over in IT gets them scripted regularly, and is generous to his co-workers in need, so you hit him up, and he sells you ten of them @ whatever apiece...and lets you know that he gets them every month around the 20th, so there you have it, a regular connect! Volia!

Funny, though, how those don't seem to last like they used to, but Drake tells you he has a shady bro-in-law, Dwayne, who can get you what you want, so you find yourself riding to a skeevier part of town than you ever thought you'd be in on purpose, and you buy him out because, after all, you DO have money, right?

And...it has come full circle, as Dwayne now has nothing left to sell to the weekend warriors. What is gonna suck for you now is when you go to all your connects and nobody is going to have anything for at least a week, and you find yourself wondering how you're going to make it through work, sleep, family life the next seven days without anything. What do you do? Go to the Urgent Care and tell them you think you might have sprained something? Go by Grandma's and see what she has in her pharmacopoeia of meds? Take a walk through the hood and see if anything gets offered? No dice on any of those fronts, so you sweat, shit, shake; your thoughts race, you shiver in 75 degree sunshine, and you wonder how it is possible to feel so awful & still live. All you want to do is sleep, but the jimmy legs, racing thoughts, and sweats make that a near impossibility.

Yeah, no. Having been down the road of pharmy addiction, I don't really have much empathy for anyone whining about how they can't find a few here and there for enjoyment. Not after the cold turkey w/d of 2008.

This was not meant to be a personal attack on you, Friend...I am just painting a picture for you of how it starts and what can happen. And, trust me, you don't want that. Be glad you have trouble finding pills. Quit while you're ahead.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed "justachippas" response. You paint mental pictures! best kind of writing!

To the op: I think "dexy'smidnight" really makes a great point about the dope/opiate "economy". there's no meth fiends where I live in NY on the east coast [it's all over the US but for us heroin is king here]; there is not a bunch of meth dealers with an overabundance of their product just ..you know waitin around for someone to hit them up- any weekend "user" of meth in my area would be in total shit trying to find a hook up. fiends aren't getting the supply before you, it's not how it works. that's some thick skull thinking you got goin on dude.
 
sick post. makes me wonder how many times he had to rewrite tho. after one or two im surprised he didnt say fuck it, look who i'm talking to
 
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