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Do drugs break down muscles?

maxade

maxade

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Do they?
If I eat healthy, keep on lifting weights, etc but doing drugs occasionally (mainly stimulants like MPA) will my muscles become weaker regardless of if I eat healthy and still keep on lifting weights? Also I do dabble in Codeine every now and then and am about to try the new research chem 1P-LSD
Thanks in Advance
 
i guess it will negatively affect your ability to commit to a regular training schedule and diet plan if you do drugs occasionally. if occasionally is once a month it wouldn't matter, if occasionally is once or twice a week it will probably have a negative impact on your ability to eat and train enough to gain whatever muscle mass you are working towards.

i dont get why you would need codeine or stimulants or research chemicals if you are trying to get buff tho, like there will be a rush anyway from going to the gym a lot, and being healthy, that in itself is a good high.

i would just vape some weed once a week if i was you
 
Codeine can lower testosterone levels in the long term. Will that affect your muscle mass ? It depends on many things.

Stimulants will suppress your appetite, and thus may put you in a caloric deficit. Basically, you'll lose weight.

If your diet and workouts aren't affected by the drugs you're using, it's very unlikely that your muscle mass is being affected.
 
i noticed when i was on a daily ephedrine/oxy combo, i lost a lot of weight but was able to maintain my strength..my energy levels were very low though and the oxy probably did a number on my testosterone levels..

recreational drugs and working out dont really mix well unless you keep it down to a 1-2 a week routine and thats very unlikely for the vast majority of us..
 
It's difficult for me to give an opinion, because I have literally never met anyone who's managed to 'eat healthy' while using stimulants long term. It's just not a priority, I guess.
 
I don't know much about this subject but I do know enough to say it's going to be entirely dependent upon "which" drugs you use.

For example, I see no reason why plain leaf Kratom a couple times a week or smoking weed are going to have any effect on your muscles.

I also see no reason why many psychedelics like shrooms or acid would effect that kind of thing or any reason most benzos would effect that.

I mean, why would any of those substances effect muscle building?
 
maxade said:
^^^^^^what about stimulants?
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I don't know.

I don't know anything about this kind of thing.

Sometimes I wonder why we all just ask questions on here of other random people without having any way of knowing whether or not their opinion is even valuable lol.

There are plenty of people on here who know a lot for sure, but how do we ever really know?

I guess I just try to discern whether or not the person seems knowledgable, but even that is often a crackshoot, which maybe isn't the best when we have questions about dangerous substances.

I wish we had more people on here who were confirmed doctors.
 
u dont have to be a dr to know that there is not going to be a significant break down of muscles due to the ingestion of a stimulant within recreational usage.

it is clear that using stimulants would most likely interrupt the cognizant dietary choices and workout schedule of someone who wants to increase muscle mass, this is a peripheral effect which would vary from individual to individual.

lots of body builders use different forms of low-dose stimulants to work out ffs. ask guido in steroid discussion forum if you want to hear some elaborate explanation of stimulants affect on muscle mass.

blers>drs (in most cases)

the question is a bit weird imo anyway, "do stimulants break down muscles?", "what should i eat?".

most of this stuff can be figured out through listening to your own body, what its telling you, and a sprinkle of common sense doesn't hurt either.
 
Mysterie said:
u dont have to be a dr to know that there is not going to be a significant break down of muscles due to the ingestion of a stimulant within recreational usage.

it is clear that using stimulants would most likely interrupt the cognizant dietary choices and workout schedule of someone who wants to increase muscle mass, this is a peripheral effect which would vary from individual to individual.

lots of body builders use different forms of low-dose stimulants to work out ffs. ask guido in steroid discussion forum if you want to hear some elaborate explanation of stimulants affect on muscle mass.

blers>drs (in most cases)

the question is a bit weird imo anyway, "do stimulants break down muscles?", "what should i eat?".

most of this stuff can be figured out through listening to your own body, what its telling you, and a sprinkle of common sense doesn't hurt either.
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I don't see why the bolded part is true though.

I mean, if you are on high dose stimulants everyday it might like if you are a meth head, but I don't see why daily adderall or even dex usage would greatly interrupt one's workout and diet schedule or why stronger stimulant use just a couple of days a week would either.

You might be less hungry and need to force yourself to eat more, other than that, I don't see why it would be a problem.
 
well its true because OP (which is what the topic is about), posted that the main stimulant he uses is MPA, so this means that he is not taking the recommended dosage of an FDA approved stimulant prescribed to him by a Dr.

i think for some people it could very well be a problem, from what i understand maintaining a toned physique requires a lot of dedication/willpower, and these things tend to fall by the wayside when you are doing research chemicals. IME
 
How long should I wait between doses of MPA and workouts to maintain muscle?
and i'm still drinking protein shakes and good food
also what about codeine
 
Muscle loss is attributed to a wide array of factors ranging from hormonal imbalances, malnutrition, malabsorption, drug use (which generally coincides with malnutrition and hormonal imbalances) and extremely sedentary life styles.
Depending upon environmental factors and health, the body generally doesn't undergo extremely catabolic survival processes within 24 hours of poor dieting. If that was the case then the human species wouldn't be in existence considering the famine that has plagued different moments in history.
My personal advice if you are trying to create "gains" is to not rely on chemicals, especially at the beginning stages. We are stuck in a "more is better" society, but these broken ideas don't last in the health and fitness realm. Muscle isn't something that is simultaneously spawned from your first workout. You simply go to the gym to break down the muscle fiber AND THEN go home and grow in the kitchen with a well balanced and thought out nutritional plan. Protein shakes are great for those starting out who can't get their minds around the masses of food required to grow, but it is always best to get your protein sources from real food due to the complete amino profile that nature provides.
On the topic of using codeine. It is an opiate that can affect testosterone levels as mentioned above, but it is also a depressant and heavily interacts with your CNS. If you are hindering your body's recovery processes at the neurological level than you are leading yourself into a revolving door of working out day in and day out, but never achieving the results you desire.

On the topic of stimulants. Just stick to coffee or some source of caffeine. MPA is a designer drug, right? It is not even chemically related to the amphetamine family, though it may produce similar side effects. Keep it simple. Later on you can experiment with various chemicals once you have a solid foundation and a better understanding of the nature of your actions.

Good Luck!
 
I'm sure some drugs must break down muscles, but I don't think most or even many of them do.
 
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