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Do benzos ruin a stimulant experience?

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When I was younger I had some of the best times of my life on speed & ecstacy before I even knew what a benzo was. I never really experienced any real kind of anxiety, high bodyloads etc and really the only thing bad was the comedown. These days however I usually have a benzo on hand and sometimes take at the start of a trip. I know this probably numbs the experience somewhat but eases any worries etc. Just wondered other peoples experiences and if they just used them for the comedown or following day or if you had an optimal time to use.
 
In my experiences, taking a benzo whilst speeding would make me a bit uncomfortable. It was like the benzo was trying to calm me down, but my upper was trying to make me geek. It was like I was in a drug induced limbo, and couldn't enjoy the side effects of either drug.

Oddly enough, an opiate and an upper goes nice with me... I love popping a roxi and an adderall.

Benzos don't do much for me.... but everyone's different.
 
In my own experience, yes, a benzo would "negate" / stop an stimulant (amphetamine, from my experience) high in its tracks (for me atleast).

Taking a benzo before chasing a stimulant high is pretty useless (to me, again).

I remember taking .5mg of xanax (alprazolam) and trying to catch an amp high from 15mg of IR Adderall (I have a low tolerance) and nothing happened, I still felt pretty "benzed" .

Taking a benzo after doing a stimulant , for the "come down/crash" is a different story, it definitely helps.
 
I've found that a low to moderate dose of a benzo will help with anxiety and restlessness during a stimulant experience. I've done it before and it hasn't taken from the euphoria.
 
they're likely to dull the experience a little, yeah. how much is going to be dependent on personal tolerance, choice of benzo and dose as well, same goes for whatever stim you're on.
 
Benzos allways just lowered the euphoria of my experiences on speed and mdma, but if you are TOO high or you feel paranoid/trippy or something then they are great.
 
I wouldn't say benzos dull the effects of amphetamine, but rather smooth out its rough edges, which seem rougher to some than to others. I would never take a stimulant without benzos. Determining when to mix the two depends on how you want to feel during and after the experience.
 
I wouldn't say benzos dull the effects of amphetamine, but rather smooth out its rough edges, which seem rougher to some than to others. I would never take a stimulant without benzos. Determining when to mix the two depends on how you want to feel during and after the experience.

Couldn't have said it better. A benzo only floors my mood all the more.
 
Far from it, a benzo definately mellows out a stimulant buzz without taking anything away from it. They are also invaluable for comedowns. I think you would be pleasantly surprised how well benzo's and stimulants go well together at the right doses, but only do it if you have more benzo's for when you come down.
 
Unless your dose ratio is way out of wack, I consider this to be a very good combination. In fact, if I'm taking anything other than cocaine or a threshold-to-light dose of dextroamphetamine, I would rather have a benzo to go with it. A low dose, 10-20mg diazepam or equivalent does the trick just fine - I feel it barely reduces any euphoria or central stimulation, but it does wonders for any possible anxiety, paranoia, and particularly muscle tension and peripheral stimulation.
I personally need quite a lot of sedative-hypnotic benzos to effectively counteract an active dose of most stimulants - they are better at getting to sleep 2-4 hours earlier than normal during the comedown, but while I consider the stimulant to still be in its active and not its crash phase, I would usually require benzo doses which straddle the amnesic frontier for them to seriously affect stimulation (and compared to most others around me I consider my stimulant doses quite conservative, when for most other drugs the converse is true). In the rare case that they do make me too dulled or sleepy, I take a tiny bit more coke/speed/meth/whatever. In 98 cases out of 100, for me, benzos improve the stimulant experience, and remain your best chum when the stimulants leave the party.
At reasonable doses they aren't strong enough to ruin the experience. They "take the edge off" and I think most people would agree that on stimulants, that would sometimes be welcome for most of us. Stimulants + benzos are also fucking social steroids. I'm surprised my tongue doesn't turn silver.
 
damn, I've never tried etizolam.
My advise was going to be to save the benzo for the comedown.
I'm sure it would apply to etizolam too.
IME I found the hypnotic benzos to be the best for comedowns.
 
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